Famous Fake Fights

[Ilya Muromets]

Wilder - Scott

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jws9K_RTCy4

Watch Scott's head especially in slow motion. It didn't even move as it would have if anything landed. Even the announcers went as far as they could go without losing their jobs.

Next we can discuss David Haye's two comeback "fights" and also his "fight" against Harrison.

[victor-romeo]

I like your series , Al Bernstein says "That right hand didn't land perfectly" priceless, did it land at all?

[DA GOOSE]

Green vs Briggs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkmrmrnD1d8

[Ilya Muromets]

Green vs Briggs

Jeez was that a ridiculous dive or did the guy have some medical problem that caused him to fall down like that? It was so absurd. When you take a dive the objective is to try to fool the spectators not make them laugh or yell and throw stuff. Did you hear Green go off on him, and they said they were friends before? It isn't as if Briggs was some bum off the streets either. He had two very close losses to Adamek. He had been retired from boxing though.

[Ilya Muromets]

Ray Edwards vs Nick Capes. I'm not sure about this one. It may or may not have been fake. Actually, kidding aside, this one is my favorite.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ereo4TEk9r8

[bigman1968]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rew2bEA0tEc

Was he punched???

[bigman1968]

Wilder - Scott

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jws9K_RTCy4

Watch Scott's head especially in slow motion. It didn't even move as it would have if anything landed. Even the announcers went as far as they could go without losing their jobs.

Next we can discuss David Haye's two comeback "fights" and also his "fight" against Harrison.

Scott is a terrible diver

[Woldemar]

Miguel Acosta vs Paulus Moses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rgiZu-f068

[Boxing Writer]

Ray Edwards vs Nick Capes. I'm not sure about this one. It may or may not have been fake. Actually, kidding aside, this one is my favorite.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ereo4TEk9r8

This is by far my favorite dive in boxing history, I couldn't stop laughing when I saw it for the first time. But now I start thinking it might be a real KO, because Nick Capes looks so bad that it seems he can be actually knocked out by a breath of the wind

[Ilya Muromets]

I like your series , Al Bernstein says "That right hand didn't land perfectly" priceless, did it land at all?

Announcers:

The announcer totally ignored the "knockout" and just kept on talking.

"The right hand looked like it didnt land clean"

"At least Scott didn't come here to fall down."

Ha ha ha!

[Tony1244]

Some of these are fake fights. Probably not all of them. If a punch lands (not the Edwards "fight") on a certain part of the head where there is no snap, it appears harmless, doesn't mean it is.

Ali-Liston 2 certainly looked fake to me. I'm agnostic on Wilder-Scott even though a lot of you are certain on that one.

[vidal]

There's only one winner here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_-C4Sk6EHw

[Badhusker]

Wilder - Scott

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jws9K_RTCy4

Watch Scott's head especially in slow motion. It didn't even move as it would have if anything landed. Even the announcers went as far as they could go without losing their jobs.

Next we can discuss David Haye's two comeback "fights" and also his "fight" against Harrison.

You can't see the hook to the temple? Apparently you haven't even been punched. A hit like that from a guy that hits as hard as Wilder can definitely throw off your equilibrium.

[Ilya Muromets]

Some of these are fake fights. Probably not all of them. If a punch lands (not the Edwards "fight") on a certain part of the head where there is no snap, it appears harmless, doesn't mean it is.

Ali-Liston 2 certainly looked fake to me. I'm agnostic on Wilder-Scott even though a lot of you are certain on that one.

You're hardly the only one. In fact they couldn't find a single person in attendance at either Clay - Liston "fight" who thought they were on the level. The mafia owned Liston. He did what they told him to. Clay-Ali had many fights that were fixed one way or another.

[Ilya Muromets]

You can't see the hook to the temple? Apparently you haven't even been punched. A hit like that from a guy that hits as hard as Wilder can definitely throw off your equilibrium.

Nah, it was a little slap. You don't KO fighters with a slap. Threw him off his equilibrium? OK that might make some sense if it was followed up with a hard right or something, but it wasn't!

[BitPlayer]

Wilder - Scott

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jws9K_RTCy4

Watch Scott's head especially in slow motion. It didn't even move as it would have if anything landed. Even the announcers went as far as they could go without losing their jobs.

Next we can discuss David Haye's two comeback "fights" and also his "fight" against Harrison.

He was knocked out by the hook, I don't get why people claim this is fake.

[SteveO]

Clay-Ali had many fights that were fixed one way or another.

Wow!
Please enlighten us and don't forget to include the evidence to back up your claim.

[TheBeast]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFS_4SLMfac

[tiny_acres]

Clay-Ali had many fights that were fixed one way or another.

Wow!
Please enlighten us and don't forget to include the evidence to back up your claim.

Steve don't feed the troll

[Ilya Muromets]

He was knocked out by the hook, I don't get why people claim this is fake.

Some more points: Wilder and Scott were friends (like Haye and Harrison). There were pre fight rumors about Wilder having gambling debts. Note how Scott braces himself on his arm when he falls, a controlled fall. Note how Wilder doesn't even look at Scott but just walks back to his corner and starts celebrating.

[Stuarty]

Dunno how to post vids. What about the Michael Gomez v Peter McDonagh Irish title fight years ago. Gomez turned his back and refused to fight on!

[Ilya Muromets]

Wow!
Please enlighten us and don't forget to include the evidence to back up your claim.

One thing at a time. Meanwhile your first homework assignment is to study up on the two Liston "fights".

[SteveO]

Wow!
Please enlighten us and don't forget to include the evidence to back up your claim.

One thing at a time. Meanwhile your first homework assignment is to study up on the two Liston "fights".

Is that it?
Those two contests have been debated so many times there is nothing left to say about them.
I am more interested to discover what the other 'many' fights are. With concrete evidence of course and not just your opinion.

[bigjack]

There's only one winner here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_-C4Sk6EHw

That's the one for me,without a doubt the worst boxers on earth.

[Ilya Muromets]

Dunno how to post vids. What about the Michael Gomez v Peter McDonagh Irish title fight years ago. Gomez turned his back and refused to fight on!

Just post the Youtube link. The window will automatically open. I didn't know about that one. There are hundreds if not thousands of these in the wonderfuul world of boxing. The thing about boxing is it is an easy sport to fix. You don't have to deal with a whole team just one guy. Gangsters are attracted to boxing because of the violence. Gangsters like to gamble but they don't like to lose. It's harder to ensure that your man wins. You need to do something like load his gloves or talk to the referee and judges or his oponent. It's easier to ensure that your man loses, hence the dive.