Ducker Fury is ducking Wlad rematch

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Good.

1st match was the worst fight ever.
Only an idiot would want to see part 2.

This isn't a duck.
It's a favor to boxing.

Finally, I'm with Fury!!!

[jezzamundo]

2 mandatorys in the last 6 years, cuddled povetkin in one of the worst fights I've seen, then lost to fury who he dodged for 4 years, Alex lepai, briant Jennings, pianetta, wach, mormeck, Eddie chambers, none of these are top heavyweights imo. Right now I think fury beats him again, Luis Ortiz stops him, wilder stops him, and a few on the way up also have the beating of him. He won't fight any except fury one more time then I expect him to retire!

Yeah and your big brother could beat him too. Talk is cheap. Who do u think Wlad "ducked"? In fact he fought all the best including many who were previously unbeaten, and despite the US propaganda to the contrary, the Klitschko brothers were the most dominant heavyweights in history in the strongest heavyweight division in history, a time when the division was much bigger and stronger and international in scope than ever before.

I agree that Wlad took on all comers and was no ducker.

The Klitschkos were arguably the most dominant heavyweight in history, but to call the division they ruled over as the strongest in history is a joke. Anyone with a rudimentary understanding of boxing and a pair of eyes could tell that the post-Lewis era of heavyweights has been very poor, Klitschkos aside. The reason they were so dominant was because the competition was so terrible.

[jamesmcdonnell]

2 mandatorys in the last 6 years, cuddled povetkin in one of the worst fights I've seen, then lost to fury who he dodged for 4 years, Alex lepai, briant Jennings, pianetta, wach, mormeck, Eddie chambers, none of these are top heavyweights imo. Right now I think fury beats him again, Luis Ortiz stops him, wilder stops him, and a few on the way up also have the beating of him. He won't fight any except fury one more time then I expect him to retire!

Yeah and your big brother could beat him too. Talk is cheap. Who do u think Wlad "ducked"? In fact he fought all the best including many who were previously unbeaten, and despite the US propaganda to the contrary, the Klitschko brothers were the most dominant heavyweights in history in the strongest heavyweight division in history, a time when the division was much bigger and stronger and international in scope than ever before.

I agree that Wlad took on all comers and was no ducker.

The Klitschkos were arguably the most dominant heavyweight in history, but to call the division they ruled over as the strongest in history is a joke. Anyone with a rudimentary understanding of boxing and a pair of eyes could tell that the post-Lewis era of heavyweights has been very poor, Klitschkos aside. The reason they were so dominant was because the competition was so terrible.

The strongest heavyweight division In history - a mind boggling statement!

[Ilya Muromets]

The strongest heavyweight division In history - a mind boggling statement!

Only to those who believe the US propaganda machine.

[In the know 85]

Baffled at the regard some armchair fans hold the klitschko's in! George formeman would have killed them literally, Ali would laughed at them, Liston, Holmes, Frazier, bowe, Tyson, to name just a few... all would have put klitschko's on their asses.. The klits dominated very very mediocre opposition at best.. And wouldn't have had the engine to go 15 rounds or more, they can just about do 12 blowing out their asses...

[greg]

..I'm aware of the fact that Fury is in the driver's seat. However, the contract was signed. So, what's the problem, NOW? Fury handlers should at least come up with some sort of plausible excuse/explanation...

[Enlightened-One]

Baffled at the regard some armchair fans hold the klitschko's in! George formeman would have killed them literally...

You do realise that the prime version of "Big" George Foreman, the man who defeated Joe Frazier in their first fight, was almost identical in height and weight to the prime version of David Haye that defeated Nikolay Valuev?


Look, I’m a huge fan of all the old-timers you’ve mentioned, but the sheer size and athleticism of both Klitschko brothers, coupled with their genuine world-class boxing ability, would have either presented a monumental challenge to some of the guys you have named… or even beaten several of them.

Even Mike Tyson openly admits that he doesn’t know if he could have beaten the Klitschko’s in his prime.


The guys you’ve listed were all involved in “great” fights, but the Klitschko’s had the strategy, discipline, intelligence and fighting style to “break” fights, because they were willing and capable of implementing the most effective (if not slightly boring) game-plan to minimise risk, whilst rendering their opponents utterly helpless.

The word “excitement” is not synonymous with the word “effective”, which is part of the reason why both Klitschko’s will probably never be held in high regard by casual boxing observers (especially the Americans, as they caused them to lose ownership of the division for almost a decade).

[Ilya Muromets]

Baffled at the regard some armchair fans hold the klitschko's in! George formeman would have killed them literally, Ali would laughed at them, Liston, Holmes, Frazier, bowe, Tyson, to name just a few... all would have put klitschko's on their asses.. The klits dominated very very mediocre opposition at best.. And wouldn't have had the engine to go 15 rounds or more, they can just about do 12 blowing out their asses...

Yup, and your big brother could have kicked their butts too. Ali couldn't even beat guys weighing in the 180's - like Doug Jones twice and even club fighter Alonzo Johnson. He'd look like a little kid in there with a modern 6'6" 250 lb. heavyweight. All he'd be able to do would be run away for a few rounds. All of your phony heroes that u mentioned, not one ever fought a single Russian or eastern European, or even a black african or Cuban expat.

But why bother to argue with these jerkoffs?

[Ilya Muromets]

Is that a recent picture of Mike Tyson above? If so he got pretty chubby again.

[Ilya Muromets]

Baffled at the regard some armchair fans hold the klitschko's in! George formeman would have killed them literally...

You do realise that the prime version of "Big" George Foreman, the man who defeated Joe Frazier in their first fight, was almost identical in height and weight to the prime version of David Haye that defeated Nikolay Valuev? ....

Haye didn't really beat (a very sick!) Valuev, even tho the (spit!) judges said he did.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Baffled at the regard some armchair fans hold the klitschko's in! George formeman would have killed them literally...

You do realise that the prime version of "Big" George Foreman, the man who defeated Joe Frazier in their first fight, was almost identical in height and weight to the prime version of David Haye that defeated Nikolay Valuev? ....

Haye didn't really beat (a very sick!) Valuev, even tho the (spit!) judges said he did.

Your reality is sadly delusional.

[Ilya Muromets]

Your reality is sadly delusional.

No it isn't. In fact I methodically rewatched that fight pausing it and counting punches and taking notes. Haye spent the whole night running away and then he landed one single good punch. If running away can take a belt away from a champion than a flyweight can beat a heavyweight every time. What really happened was the boxing bosses knew that Valuev was very sick - that was his last fight and he had three operations afterwards - and they figured that the flamboyant Haye could put more asses in seats, hence the judges' phony decision.

[jbizzle20]

Ugh, Fury is starting to look like a giant pussy. Fury is well below Klitschko's skill level. Fury knows he is going to be rendered comatose the second time around. Let's just get it over with and move on.

[Wales]

The strongest heavyweight division In history - a mind boggling statement!

Only to those who believe the US propaganda machine.

Really? I'd like to see / read one article that states this was strongest HW division in history. Even a propaganda machine running on rocket fuel with a driver high on angel dust wouldn't come up with that one

[jamesmcdonnell]

The strongest heavyweight division In history - a mind boggling statement!

Only to those who believe the US propaganda machine.

Really? I'd like to see / read one article that states this was strongest HW division in history. Even a propaganda machine running on rocket fuel with a driver high on angel dust wouldn't come up with that one

[jamesmcdonnell]

Ugh, Fury is starting to look like a giant pussy. Fury is well below Klitschko's skill level. Fury knows he is going to be rendered comatose the second time around. Let's just get it over with and move on.

You do know that Fury won the first fight right, you're talking as if he's already been battered by Wlad.

[tiny_acres]

Ugh, Fury is starting to look like a giant pussy. Fury is well below Klitschko's skill level. Fury knows he is going to be rendered comatose the second time around. Let's just get it over with and move on.

You do know that Fury won the first fight right, you're talking as if he's already been battered by Wlad.

Wlad was injured before the first fight and it was postponed.
Injuries happen. Get over it..

And James I agree with what you said. People are acting like Fury doesn't have a chance. Even though he won the first one

[Ilya Muromets]

The strongest heavyweight division In history - a mind boggling statement!

Only to those who believe the US propaganda machine.

Really? I'd like to see / read one article that states this was strongest HW division in history....

Not likely where you're looking, and of course they ignore my explanation, which is why I said it is a waste of time trying to argue with them.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Baffled at the regard some armchair fans hold the klitschko's in! George formeman would have killed them literally...

You do realise that the prime version of "Big" George Foreman, the man who defeated Joe Frazier in their first fight, was almost identical in height and weight to the prime version of David Haye that defeated Nikolay Valuev?


Look, I’m a huge fan of all the old-timers you’ve mentioned, but the sheer size and athleticism of both Klitschko brothers, coupled with their genuine world-class boxing ability, would have either presented a monumental challenge to some of the guys you have named… or even beaten several of them.

Even Mike Tyson openly admits that he doesn’t know if he could have beaten the Klitschko’s in his prime.


The guys you’ve listed were all involved in “great” fights, but the Klitschko’s had the strategy, discipline, intelligence and fighting style to “break” fights, because they were willing and capable of implementing the most effective (if not slightly boring) game-plan to minimise risk, whilst rendering their opponents utterly helpless.

The word “excitement” is not synonymous with the word “effective”, which is part of the reason why both Klitschko’s will probably never be held in high regard by casual boxing observers (especially the Americans, as they caused them to lose ownership of the division for almost a decade).

Foreman was a much naturally bigger man than Haye, haye packed on loads of muscle at heavyweight, Foreman was actually draining when he was in his prime, because his trainer had some strange beliefs regarding dehydrating his fighters.

[asdfjkl]

You do realise that the prime version of "Big" George Foreman, the man who defeated Joe Frazier in their first fight, was almost identical in height and weight to the prime version of David Haye that defeated Nikolay Valuev? ....

Haye didn't really beat (a very sick!) Valuev, even tho the (spit!) judges said he did.

Your reality is sadly delusional.

Nope, yours is, David Haye showed a far worse performance compared to Evender Holyfield.

A 46 year old Holyfield was actually better as a prime David Haye. David Haye right now is compareble to the 44 year old Shannon Briggs.

[Ilya Muromets]

Foreman was a much naturally bigger man than Haye, haye packed on loads of muscle at heavyweight, Foreman was actually draining when he was in his prime, because his trainer had some strange beliefs regarding dehydrating his fighters.

The only heavyweight boxers from your so called golden age in the US, the 60s thru 80s, that I can think of who might be competitive in today's international heavyweight boxing scene are George Foreman and Gerry Cooney.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Foreman was a much naturally bigger man than Haye, haye packed on loads of muscle at heavyweight, Foreman was actually draining when he was in his prime, because his trainer had some strange beliefs regarding dehydrating his fighters.

The only heavyweight boxers from your so called golden age in the US, the 60s thru 80s, that I can think of who might be competitive in today's international heavyweight boxing scene are George Foreman and Gerry Cooney.

Ali would have been so fast compared to lumbering apes of Todays scene, and he was hardly small as he? He might have struggled with the size of Wlad and more so Vitali who was more of a natural fighter, and much tougher, but I don't agree at all. Cooney got the shit kicked out of him by spinks.

[jezzamundo]

The strongest heavyweight division In history - a mind boggling statement!

Only to those who believe the US propaganda machine.

Who exactly from the post Lennox Lewis era of heavyweights was a great fighter, Klitschko brothers aside? It's obvious that boxing has become a more international sport, but, in the heavyweight division in particular, that hasn't been nearly enough to make up for the American decline.

Despite his lackluster resume, I think Vitali would have been a handful for any heavyweight in history, but Wlad was/is a very flawed boxer who was only able to dominate due to the very poor standard of title challengers. When he did fight someone half-decent, he either struggled or was forced into using questionable tactics. Watching him struggle with Tony Thompson in their first fight, it was obvious to me that he was clearly a level below the likes of Lewis, Holyfield and Bowe, who all would have beaten a slow heavyweight like Thompson with relative ease. Many of the title challengers during Wlad's reign would have been journeymen and fringe contenders in the comparatively talent rich 70s, 80s and 90s.

[In the know 85]

All said and done, the klitschko heavyweight era was possibly the worst in recent history, and the fact is that would have been beaten soundly by the best of previous era's.

[Wales]

Only to those who believe the US propaganda machine.

Really? I'd like to see / read one article that states this was strongest HW division in history....

Not likely where you're looking, and of course they ignore my explanation, which is why I said it is a waste of time trying to argue with them.

But 70s, for example, had Ali, Liston, Foreman, Lyle, Holmes, Quarray, Shavers, Norton...

Do Vitali (who he wouldnt fight), old Lewis, Rahman, Sanders, Byrd, Peter, Ruiz, Brewster, Chagaev compare?