Spence Jr...I Don't Know.....

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He's lookin too abnormal....too abnormal is all i am saying....Remember he used to train ALOT and I mean ALOT at the TMT gym. Thurman, Garcia,

Brook, Khan , are all great fighters but they are not looking abnormal either. Man Spence is questionable....
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Don't worry sweety, you don't know about anything to do with boxing.
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Yeah because you dont care about fighter's safety! Of course!
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bnovelist wrote:Yeah because you dont care about fighter's safety! Of course!
Awww, you're adorable.
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Go & watch Crawford's bouts. He's very skilled but is vunerable at times but he bounces right back! Crawford is a PRIME example. Spence Jr? Man

something is shady.
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Seriously watch Crawford's fights he's very good but he's not walking through guys he takes his fair share & dishes it out too! Spence is constantly

dishing it out, dishing it out, dishing it out, dishing it out, and fought and trained out of TMT gym.
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What exactly is being insinuated here? It reads that Spence must be on something because his opponents have looked over matched against him. I can't really see any logic in that stance. He's fought fighters below his level and predominantly without much pop, thus he's had more skill and fire power than his opponents and has been able to go on the offensive without having to worry about what's coming back. How that makes his suspicious of being a user is beyond me.
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Crawford, Thurman, Porter, and Garcia like I said are elite level great fighters! But they aren't abnormal you spot a flaw every now & then with

these guys. Now all of the sudden you have this young phenom blowing everyone out of the water. I learned my lesson years ago with Vitor Belfort

dude if its too good to be true it really is I hate to admit it. Something is terribly off with Spence Jr
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Physically he looks a bit light weight doesn't he.
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Let's be real here, Spence is special. He breaks guys down to the body and then the head falls. This is old school boxing. He has a great mixture of offense and defense. So I think he will be a star, absolutely.. do I think he's levels above the other talented guys in his division? Absolutely not.

I've seen it so many times where a young fighter is moving up the ranks and he looks great against C and B level opposition, but when they start to fight the A list fighters they suddenly aren't the killers they were. I honestly feel Spence will be dealt a similar fate to let's say Felix Trinidad. I sew holes in Spence game that a good boxer like Thurman can take advantage of, I'm convinced you get a world class boxer in there that is efficient and smart with their foot movement he can get stuck in the mud offensively. Great young fighter and he's the truth, but there some bad dudes at 147 and 154 that aren't going to be easy nights for him no matter how you slice it. These crazy asses on here who get all gunghoe like Spence can walk through anyone at 147 are deluded.
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back to being real, he has beaten Algeiri and Bundu. He was impressive in doing so and they were great stepping stone fights to prepare for the world stage. But at the end of the day, they weren't Thurman, Brook, Crawford, Bradley or Garcia. Those guys are made of different cloth all together. I actually feel he can beat most of the guys at 147 but Thurman would be a problem for him.
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NateJR wrote:Let's be real here, Spence is special. He breaks guys down to the body and then the head falls. This is old school boxing. He has a great mixture of offense and defense. So I think he will be a star, absolutely.. do I think he's levels above the other talented guys in his division? Absolutely not.

I've seen it so many times where a young fighter is moving up the ranks and he looks great against C and B level opposition, but when they start to fight the A list fighters they suddenly aren't the killers they were. I honestly feel Spence will be dealt a similar fate to let's say Felix Trinidad. I sew holes in Spence game that a good boxer like Thurman can take advantage of, I'm convinced you get a world class boxer in there that is efficient and smart with their foot movement he can get stuck in the mud offensively. Great young fighter and he's the truth, but there some bad dudes at 147 and 154 that aren't going to be easy nights for him no matter how you slice it. These crazy asses on here who get all gunghoe like Spence can walk through anyone at 147 are deluded.
Good post

Spence looks impressive and I think he'll have a very nice career, but at this point many are taking it too far in my opinion. He's fighting B/C level opponents who offer pretty much nothing offensively compared to the division's top guys, and against this type of opposition he's going to be able to bully his way in and maintain his high-volume power assault without much risk (he did get hurt once earlier in his career though, and from that point spent most of the fight moving back wearily). I think him stopping Bundu and Algeiri may say more about stylistic differences between him and Thurman/Pac, who boxed those two in a less aggressive manner, than it does overall differences in ability.
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crusader wrote:
NateJR wrote:Let's be real here, Spence is special. He breaks guys down to the body and then the head falls. This is old school boxing. He has a great mixture of offense and defense. So I think he will be a star, absolutely.. do I think he's levels above the other talented guys in his division? Absolutely not.

I've seen it so many times where a young fighter is moving up the ranks and he looks great against C and B level opposition, but when they start to fight the A list fighters they suddenly aren't the killers they were. I honestly feel Spence will be dealt a similar fate to let's say Felix Trinidad. I sew holes in Spence game that a good boxer like Thurman can take advantage of, I'm convinced you get a world class boxer in there that is efficient and smart with their foot movement he can get stuck in the mud offensively. Great young fighter and he's the truth, but there some bad dudes at 147 and 154 that aren't going to be easy nights for him no matter how you slice it. These crazy asses on here who get all gunghoe like Spence can walk through anyone at 147 are deluded.
Good post

Spence looks impressive and I think he'll have a very nice career, but at this point many are taking it too far in my opinion. He's fighting B/C level opponents who offer pretty much nothing offensively compared to the division's top guys, and against this type of opposition he's going to be able to bully his way in and maintain his high-volume power assault without much risk (he did get hurt once earlier in his career though, and from that point spent most of the fight moving back wearily). I think him stopping Bundu and Algeiri may say more about stylistic differences between him and Thurman/Pac, who boxed those two in a less aggressive manner, than it does overall differences in ability.
I hear people knocking Spence and GGG for their records and it bothers me. I had a post a coupe months ago asking if Spence has now become the most avoided boxer on the planet taking over GGG's spot. To me, you can't knock either guy for their records. Both guys have clearly been trying to get everyone and anyone to fight them and they are just too good. So I choose to give those guys credit for the respect other boxers give by avoiding them. That's more impressive than criticizing Spence Jr for beating a 41 year old boxer.

The big difference is that Spence hasn't even reached his peak yet. GGG is on his way down so people better get used to the Spence Era because he's spectacular and he's been spectacular every stage of his boxing life so i find this claim to be a dirty fighter to be ignorant.
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Whatever the reason, Spence hasn't beaten a top 10 guy in my opinion (GGG has beaten several at MW), and it's telling that soon to be 42 year old Bundu, who couldn't win a round against Thurman and barely got by Frankie Gavin, is probably his second best opponent. After Algeiri and Bundu, guys like van Heerden, Vargas, and Lo Greco are mediocre at most, but they're still among Spence's best opponents.

Of course resume doesn't equal ability, but considering the massive gulf between Spence's opposition and the top fighters at 147 (much bigger than the gap between GGG's opposition and the elite guys at 160), I'm not quite on board the 'he beats up everyone' train; none of that means that I think he's a hype job, and I believe he's cleary world class, but for me the jury is still out as to whether he's so good that the other top welterweights are a breeze for him.

Question for you--offensively, who is the most dangerous fighter Spence has beaten?
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Tell Haymon to put him in there with Robert Guerrero! Lets see how he handles pressure.
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If its too good to be true MOST of the time it is! All of his punches are special effects WTF?
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bnovelist wrote:If its too good to be true MOST of the time it is! All of his punches are special effects WTF?
:doh:
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NateJR wrote:Let's be real here, Spence is special. He breaks guys down to the body and then the head falls. This is old school boxing. He has a great mixture of offense and defense. So I think he will be a star, absolutely.. do I think he's levels above the other talented guys in his division? Absolutely not.

I've seen it so many times where a young fighter is moving up the ranks and he looks great against C and B level opposition, but when they start to fight the A list fighters they suddenly aren't the killers they were. I honestly feel Spence will be dealt a similar fate to let's say Felix Trinidad. I sew holes in Spence game that a good boxer like Thurman can take advantage of, I'm convinced you get a world class boxer in there that is efficient and smart with their foot movement he can get stuck in the mud offensively. Great young fighter and he's the truth, but there some bad dudes at 147 and 154 that aren't going to be easy nights for him no matter how you slice it. These crazy asses on here who get all gunghoe like Spence can walk through anyone at 147 are deluded.
True. That's the way it always is. The better fighters in the top tier of the division ones of championship caliber don't fall down so easy. I believe Spence will reach that level and do agree Thurman would be trouble for him.
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Nah man were're in the age where alot of big name guys are getting popped for banned substances. You have to put Errol into question he's always

looking super natural shit's too good to be true. Can't fool me been watching boxing way too long now 1990. Thurman is elite elite but you see in

between fights how his mid section looks soft, same goes for Kell Brook. Even Garcia and Crawford gets hit at times shit something's wrong with

Spence I'm serious it will come out eventually.
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Even the Charlos looked human in their last fights. Spence?
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bnovelist wrote:Even the Charlos looked human in their last fights. Spence?
After you shut the fvck up, do us all a flavor and shut the fvck up.
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bnovelist wrote:Tell Haymon to put him in there with Robert Guerrero! Lets see how he handles pressure.
:lol:

Guerrero of 2016 would get KO'ed by Spence.
If Guerrero fought Thurman again, he'd get KO'ed.

He's on the other side of the hill now.
He only has a 7 round motor.
He isn't walking through punches like he was in 2012.

Guerrero is a gate keeper now.
Should only be against guys moving up.
Nothing wrong with that.
Fights against big strong 147 pounders is just an obvious health threat.
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Ridiculous post.. Hater in the making.. :doh:
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bnovelist wrote:Crawford, Thurman, Porter, and Garcia like I said are elite level great fighters! But they aren't abnormal you spot a flaw every now & then with

these guys. Now all of the sudden you have this young phenom blowing everyone out of the water. I learned my lesson years ago with Vitor Belfort

dude if its too good to be true it really is I hate to admit it. Something is terribly off with Spence Jr
Something is definitely off with your boxing analysis. I have come to this Forum for many years under different names and you are one of the flakiest commenters ever in the history of Current Scene. There have been other boxing flakes besides you but most flamed out in a short time span.

Your posts and threads are good for entertainment value alone. Your premises are laughable and you have been proven wrong too many times to count. I read your comments only when I need a good laugh...
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