will luis ortiz have an easy nite with alexander ustinov in nov ??

badkatt · Post by **badkatt** » 03 Sep 2016, 16:10

??? how does this fight go ?

Freedom2013 · Post by **Freedom2013** » 03 Sep 2016, 16:20

Is the fight really going to happen? Ortiz is a strange one, he may pull out.

Ustinov is getting old, but I don't see him as an easy opponent for anyone.

badkatt · Post by **badkatt** » 03 Sep 2016, 16:38

Freedom2013 wrote:Is the fight really going to happen? Ortiz is a strange one, he may pull out.

Ustinov is getting old, but I don't see him as an easy opponent for anyone.

YES ITS HAPPENING IN NOV ....

PsychoGamerTwo · Post by **PsychoGamerTwo** » 03 Sep 2016, 17:17

I don't know if its going to be easy, but i'd definitely pick Ortiz by definitive win (stoppage, clear UD)

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 03 Sep 2016, 17:18

Yes, very easy. Ustinov is mediocre and not much of a puncher.

Freedom2013 · Post by **Freedom2013** » 03 Sep 2016, 18:29

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yes, very easy. Ustinov is mediocre and not much of a puncher.

He's slow, but he can punch.

He KOed the durable Matt Skelton COLD about 15 years ago in MMA.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 03 Sep 2016, 18:34

Freedom2013 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yes, very easy. Ustinov is mediocre and not much of a puncher.
He's slow, but he can punch.

He KOed the durable Matt Skelton COLD about 15 years ago in MMA.

No, he can't. I watched him tattoo a shopworn Monte Barrett who had no legs at all and he couldn't finish him. He brings nothing to a fight but size.

Badhusker · Post by **Badhusker** » 03 Sep 2016, 18:54

Freedom2013 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yes, very easy. Ustinov is mediocre and not much of a puncher.
He's slow, but he can punch.

He KOed the durable Matt Skelton COLD about 15 years ago in MMA.

Of course the big question is........will Ortiz get a fair shake in this fight? Just wondering, because it is the first thing Freedom talks about if the fight is in a venue that he doesn't like.

asdfjkl · Post by **asdfjkl** » 04 Sep 2016, 04:16

Probably, I wonder about Tyrone Spong today, does he overwelm all expectations again in Mexico today?

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 04 Sep 2016, 21:16

Ortiz keeps piling on pounds himself.

Wins, but not easy

Ilya Muromets · Post by **Ilya Muromets** » 05 Sep 2016, 15:00

This one appears to be off again. Seems that Ortiz didn't sign. They should strip him of his silly title.

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/ortiz-u ... ses-352763

BitPlayer · Post by **BitPlayer** » 05 Sep 2016, 15:04

x2x wrote:This one appears to be off again. Seems that Ortiz didn't sign. They should strip him of his silly title.

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/ortiz-u ... ses-352763

FFS

Ilya Muromets · Post by **Ilya Muromets** » 05 Sep 2016, 15:07

What does Ustinov have to do to get a fight anyway? Fury stood him up before this. Are they all scared of him or what?

PsychoGamerTwo · Post by **PsychoGamerTwo** » 05 Sep 2016, 16:11

Freedom2013 wrote:Is the fight really going to happen? Ortiz is a strange one, he may pull out.

Ugggggggggggggh.

Enlightened-One · Post by **Enlightened-One** » 06 Sep 2016, 06:10

The WBA apparently wanted VADA administered drug testing, which Team Ortiz agreed to and stipulated in the fight contract, but Team Ustinov declined to undergo this testing.
http://www.BS.com/luis-ortizs- ... ng--108430

Badhusker · Post by **Badhusker** » 06 Sep 2016, 07:30

Enlightened-One wrote:The WBA apparently wanted VADA administered drug testing, which Team Ortiz agreed to and stipulated in the fight contract, but Team Ortiz declined to undergo this testing.
http://www.BS.com/luis-ortizs- ... ng--108430

I think you mean Ustinov refused testing. It means he is dirty in my opinion.

Enlightened-One · Post by **Enlightened-One** » 06 Sep 2016, 09:31

Badhusker wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:The WBA apparently wanted VADA administered drug testing, which Team Ortiz agreed to and stipulated in the fight contract, but Team Ortiz declined to undergo this testing.
http://www.BS.com/luis-ortizs- ... ng--108430
I think you mean Ustinov refused testing. It means he is dirty in my opinion.

Yeah, my bad... it was a typo

Ilya Muromets · Post by **Ilya Muromets** » 06 Sep 2016, 15:22

Enlightened-One wrote:The WBA apparently wanted VADA administered drug testing, which Team Ortiz agreed to and stipulated in the fight contract, but Team Ustinov declined to undergo this testing.
http://www.BS.com/luis-ortizs- ... ng--108430

Good for him! I've heard enough of Doctor Margaret Goodman and her phony Las Vegas Mafia (Ne)VADA drug testing racket. Let us start sending the American boxers to Moscow for drug testing now!

bigman1968 · Post by **bigman1968** » 06 Sep 2016, 15:43

x2x wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:The WBA apparently wanted VADA administered drug testing, which Team Ortiz agreed to and stipulated in the fight contract, but Team Ustinov declined to undergo this testing.
http://www.BS.com/luis-ortizs- ... ng--108430

Good for him! I've heard enough of Doctor Margaret Goodman and her phony Las Vegas Mafia (Ne)VADA drug testing racket. Let us start sending the American boxers to Moscow for drug testing now!

No can do, RUSADA is closed, since the director runaway abroad...after sudden deaths of his deputees-)))

Ilya Muromets · Post by **Ilya Muromets** » 06 Sep 2016, 16:29

bigman1968 wrote: No can do, RUSADA is closed, since the director runaway abroad...after sudden deaths of his deputees-)))

Yeah some weird stuff - all this drug stuff and drug testing stuff and war on drug stuff - politicized now, dirty, crooked, all of it, right up to the top.

bigman1968 · Post by **bigman1968** » 06 Sep 2016, 16:39

x2x wrote:
bigman1968 wrote: No can do, RUSADA is closed, since the director runaway abroad...after sudden deaths of his deputees-)))

Yeah some weird stuff - all this drug stuff and drug testing stuff and war on drug stuff - politicized now, dirty, crooked, all of it, right up to the top.

Russian bullshit! When Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong and other US sport heroes were busted it was non-political, clean and honest? And when it's Sharapova and Povetkin it's political and dirty?

Ilya Muromets · Post by **Ilya Muromets** » 07 Sep 2016, 11:33

bigman1968 wrote:
x2x wrote:
bigman1968 wrote: No can do, RUSADA is closed, since the director runaway abroad...after sudden deaths of his deputees-)))

Yeah some weird stuff - all this drug stuff and drug testing stuff and war on drug stuff - politicized now, dirty, crooked, all of it, right up to the top.
Russian bullshit! When Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong and other US sport heroes were busted it was non-political, clean and honest? And when it's Sharapova and Povetkin it's political and dirty?

No. I don't know who Jones is but I think the demonization of Lance Armstrong is bullshit too, even more so, since he is a cancer survivor. As if taking some (currently illegal) drug as opposed to some (currently legal) supplements will turn you into an incredible cycling champion!

bigman1968 · Post by **bigman1968** » 07 Sep 2016, 11:43

x2x wrote:
bigman1968 wrote:
x2x wrote:

Yeah some weird stuff - all this drug stuff and drug testing stuff and war on drug stuff - politicized now, dirty, crooked, all of it, right up to the top.
Russian bullshit! When Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong and other US sport heroes were busted it was non-political, clean and honest? And when it's Sharapova and Povetkin it's political and dirty?

No. I don't know who Jones is but I think the demonization of Lance Armstrong is bullshit too, even more so, since he is a cancer survivor. As if taking some (currently illegal) drug as opposed to some (currently legal) supplements will turn you into an incredible cycling champion!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Jones

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