Kell Brook has no chance VS GGG. Fight is over inside 6.

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Kell Brook has no chance VS GGG. Fight is over inside 6.

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I mean, this is boxing, anything can happen, but realistically, Kell hasn't a god damn prayer against GGG. Even if they were the same size, Golovkin would easily beat Brook, nevermind the fact that Golovkin is also the bigger man, he's going to absolutely destroy Brook.

Kell Brook deserves all the credit in the world for taking the fight, because guys like Alvarez and Eubank Jr were scared to sign the contract to fight GGG. So for that, Brook deserves a lot of credit. And in fairness Brook is an B+/A- level welterweight. But the problem is that Golovkin is A+, not to mention he's also bigger.

Brook has no chance in this fight. It is a mismatch. Golovkin is faster, hits harder, is bigger, better defensively, he's also a 10x better technician and more accurate which comes from his superior amateur experience. Brook doesn't have a single advantage going into this fight, he is outmanned in all areas. He is going to lose every round. Golovkin easily knocks him out, Ill say round 6, but wouldn't be at all surprised if its within 4 or 3 rounds.
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While I agree GGG wins, I think you're selling Brook short in this one. Brook is at worst an A- level welterweight - he's arguably the best in the division, I would argue that he beat Porter more clearly than Thurman did.
Brook has no chance in this fight. It is a mismatch. Golovkin is faster, hits harder, is bigger, better defensively, he's also a 10x better technician and more accurate which comes from his superior amateur experience. Brook doesn't have a single advantage going into this fight, he is outmanned in all areas. He is going to lose every round. Golovkin easily knocks him out, Ill say round 6, but wouldn't be at all surprised if its within 4 or 3 rounds.
Brook is definitely much faster than GGG and I would argue he's the more accurate puncher as well, while defensively I don't think there's much to pick between them and there's not much of a difference in size, now that Kell has packed on some weight. GGG is clearly the bigger puncher and has the better chin, I'd say he's the better technician too, although 10x is overstating it.
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Lets see what they look like at the weigh in tomorrow.
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jezzamundo wrote:While I agree GGG wins, I think you're selling Brook short in this one. Brook is at worst an A- level welterweight - he's arguably the best in the division, I would argue that he beat Porter more clearly than Thurman did.
Brook has no chance in this fight. It is a mismatch. Golovkin is faster, hits harder, is bigger, better defensively, he's also a 10x better technician and more accurate which comes from his superior amateur experience. Brook doesn't have a single advantage going into this fight, he is outmanned in all areas. He is going to lose every round. Golovkin easily knocks him out, Ill say round 6, but wouldn't be at all surprised if its within 4 or 3 rounds.
Brook is definitely much faster than GGG and I would argue he's the more accurate puncher as well, while defensively I don't think there's much to pick between them and there's not much of a difference in size, now that Kell has packed on some weight. GGG is clearly the bigger puncher and has the better chin, I'd say he's the better technician too, although 10x is overstating it.
Mate, Golovkin is going to mop the floor with Brook. Golovkin has 5 or 6 times the amateur experience level of Brook. You say Brook is faster, but I don't think so. Defensively and technically Golovkin is infinitely better and that comes with his experience.

Brook won't be able to land any of his shots. Golovkin will land at will and use his strength to wear Brook down.

This fight will be a mess and is over inside of 6. Likely inside of 4. Possibly inside of 1 (Quite literally would not be surprised to see GGG KO Brook in 1 round) :o

100% Mismatch. (Not saying Brook is a bad fighter, he is very good at his weight likely the best welter in the world, but welterweight doesnt have the talent that middleweight has and he's fighting a middleweight here. Golovkin is much better even if they were the same size, so that he also has a size advantage makes this fight a bit of a mismatch. Brook's got no chance. Even if they were the same size, Brook would have very little, less than 5% chance, but GGG is also bigger, so Brook's got nothing. 0 chance)
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Andrew Kearney wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:While I agree GGG wins, I think you're selling Brook short in this one. Brook is at worst an A- level welterweight - he's arguably the best in the division, I would argue that he beat Porter more clearly than Thurman did.
Brook has no chance in this fight. It is a mismatch. Golovkin is faster, hits harder, is bigger, better defensively, he's also a 10x better technician and more accurate which comes from his superior amateur experience. Brook doesn't have a single advantage going into this fight, he is outmanned in all areas. He is going to lose every round. Golovkin easily knocks him out, Ill say round 6, but wouldn't be at all surprised if its within 4 or 3 rounds.
Brook is definitely much faster than GGG and I would argue he's the more accurate puncher as well, while defensively I don't think there's much to pick between them and there's not much of a difference in size, now that Kell has packed on some weight. GGG is clearly the bigger puncher and has the better chin, I'd say he's the better technician too, although 10x is overstating it.
Mate, Golovkin is going to mop the floor with Brook. Golovkin has 5 or 6 times the amateur experience level of Brook. You say Brook is faster, but I don't think so. Defensively and technically Golovkin is infinitely better and that comes with his experience.

Brook won't be able to land any of his shots. Golovkin will land at will and use his strength to wear Brook down.

This fight will be a mess and is over inside of 6. Likely inside of 4. Possibly inside of 1 (Quite literally would not be surprised to see GGG KO Brook in 1 round) :o

100% Mismatch. (Not saying Brook is a bad fighter, he is very good at his weight likely the best welter in the world, but welterweight doesnt have the talent that middleweight has and he's fighting a middleweight here. Golovkin is much better even if they were the same size, so that he also has a size advantage makes this fight a bit of a mismatch. Brook's got no chance. Even if they were the same size, Brook would have very little, less than 5% chance, but GGG is also bigger, so Brook's got nothing. 0 chance)
I completely agree this is a mismatch and there's a lot of hype spin going. But, Brooks hands are faster, hes a welterweight, their just faster. I dont think he has fast feet though and thats what he needs. I agree, I think hes going down. GGG is also training for speed so this is potentially the fastest we are going to see him, still think Brooks hand will be faster.
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Footwork is under-rated, and to make everything else work like you want, it takes good footwork to get into position to punch, and also to avoid punches. GGG is under-rated in the footwork category, and also cutting off the ring. Although his defense seems porous at times, he apparently has the chin to make up for it.

I really don't think speed is going to be a big factor in this fight. I will say this...unless GGG all of a sudden looks old, which he could at his age, he will dominate and take Brook out. Hell, a ot of folks on here even said him vs Khan would be even. If Brook lasts 7 rounds, he can brag he did better than Khan. :OhYes:
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Andrew Kearney wrote:Even if they were the same size, Golovkin would easily beat Brook
If they were the same size, I don't see any guarantee that GGG would win.

GGG has made the mistake of fighting one type of fighter for years. Thanks action HBO.
The advantage we think GGG has in the center of the ring might be based on the defenses of:
Wade, Lemieux, Monroe Jr, Murray, Rubio, Geale, Adama, Stevens, Macklin, Ishida, Rosado ...

That's what we judge GGG on. Some good fighters on that list,
but certainly no defensive gurus, or even B- boxing skill.

I think GGG is going to win because he'd KO many guys at 175.
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Badhusker wrote:Footwork is under-rated, and to make everything else work like you want, it takes good footwork to get into position to punch, and also to avoid punches. GGG is under-rated in the footwork category, and also cutting off the ring. Although his defense seems porous at times, he apparently has the chin to make up for it.

I really don't think speed is going to be a big factor in this fight. I will say this...unless GGG all of a sudden looks old, which he could at his age, he will dominate and take Brook out. Hell, a ot of folks on here even said him vs Khan would be even. If Brook lasts 7 rounds, he can brag he did better than Khan. :OhYes:
The only thing that could make this really competitive is if Brook a) has a very decent chin and b) follows up with what hes been saying about having a inside war with GGG. I know that sounds silly but Mackin said GGG loves a medium range, that's were his comfortable fighting and were his power is the best. I've recently watched GGG vs Ouma. That ended up being a war of attrition, which is what you dont want at age 34. Ouma pressed G, hit him with a lot of punches, a lot. Won a couple rounds IMO. Obviously he got hit with the harder punches and got hurt. If GGG hasn't improved since 2011 in that department (which is doubtful), then it could get ugly. Whatever the case its going to be a very hard fought fight for Kell either way, whether hes having success or not. Anyway i'm just speculating, i love it, the truth will come out in the ring.

Hopefully he will do better than Khan. Khans careers F'ed now. He should have gone back to the Olympics, hes the perfect 4 round fighter.
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As most people out there, I definitely see GGG winning this one (my guess is KO inside 7). However, I do have some problems imagining exactly how this bout will play out.

Will we see a Canelo-Khan type of fight with GGG easing his way into the fight before turning up the heat? - I doubt it. Will we see GGG applying pressure from the first second – I doubt that too.

And how will Brook assess things? Grabbing and holding for the first part of the fight or aim at bagging rounds from the get-go? As said: I have an unusual hard time of picturing the event beforehand. How do you guys see it?
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What it comes down to, if GGG doesn't win or look very impressive doing so, there are countless excuses lined up for him already.

I feel this is a mismatch, but it has nothing to do with skill set, I personally feel Brook is very talented and GGG is still overrated by alot of people. I actually feel they are pretty equal in talent. The difference will be GGG is very comfortable at the weight, where as Brook isn't used to fighting big men and In alot of cases had a slight size advantage against his opponents.

Style wise it's a very intriguing fight, but eventually GGG will show he belongs at MW and Kell doesn't (this talk about 160 being Kells natural weight is a crock of shit). Kell is eventually going to get caught good and when he does I don't see it going well for him.

I hope I'm so wrong and Brook some how makes a decent fight out of this. I know alot of you have alot of excuses already lined up if GGG doesn't steam roll him, but it will be entertaining listening to the huggers defend GGG if he doesn't steam roll Brook like you should.
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Andrew Kearney wrote:I mean, this is boxing, anything can happen, but realistically, Kell hasn't a god damn prayer against GGG. Even if they were the same size, Golovkin would easily beat Brook, nevermind the fact that Golovkin is also the bigger man, he's going to absolutely destroy Brook.

Kell Brook deserves all the credit in the world for taking the fight, because guys like Alvarez and Eubank Jr were scared to sign the contract to fight GGG. So for that, Brook deserves a lot of credit. And in fairness Brook is an B+/A- level welterweight. But the problem is that Golovkin is A+, not to mention he's also bigger.

Brook has no chance in this fight. It is a mismatch. Golovkin is faster, hits harder, is bigger, better defensively, he's also a 10x better technician and more accurate which comes from his superior amateur experience. Brook doesn't have a single advantage going into this fight, he is outmanned in all areas. He is going to lose every round. Golovkin easily knocks him out, Ill say round 6, but wouldn't be at all surprised if its within 4 or 3 rounds.
You read my mind. Although my confidence in this prediction receded a bit when I read somewhere that GGG is unwell! Shit!lol

http://boxingtruth.net/golovkin-will-sh ... han-brook/
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Andrew Kearney wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:While I agree GGG wins, I think you're selling Brook short in this one. Brook is at worst an A- level welterweight - he's arguably the best in the division, I would argue that he beat Porter more clearly than Thurman did.
Brook has no chance in this fight. It is a mismatch. Golovkin is faster, hits harder, is bigger, better defensively, he's also a 10x better technician and more accurate which comes from his superior amateur experience. Brook doesn't have a single advantage going into this fight, he is outmanned in all areas. He is going to lose every round. Golovkin easily knocks him out, Ill say round 6, but wouldn't be at all surprised if its within 4 or 3 rounds.
Brook is definitely much faster than GGG and I would argue he's the more accurate puncher as well, while defensively I don't think there's much to pick between them and there's not much of a difference in size, now that Kell has packed on some weight. GGG is clearly the bigger puncher and has the better chin, I'd say he's the better technician too, although 10x is overstating it.
Mate, Golovkin is going to mop the floor with Brook. Golovkin has 5 or 6 times the amateur experience level of Brook. You say Brook is faster, but I don't think so. Defensively and technically Golovkin is infinitely better and that comes with his experience.

Brook won't be able to land any of his shots. Golovkin will land at will and use his strength to wear Brook down.

This fight will be a mess and is over inside of 6. Likely inside of 4. Possibly inside of 1 (Quite literally would not be surprised to see GGG KO Brook in 1 round) :o

100% Mismatch. (Not saying Brook is a bad fighter, he is very good at his weight likely the best welter in the world, but welterweight doesnt have the talent that middleweight has and he's fighting a middleweight here. Golovkin is much better even if they were the same size, so that he also has a size advantage makes this fight a bit of a mismatch. Brook's got no chance. Even if they were the same size, Brook would have very little, less than 5% chance, but GGG is also bigger, so Brook's got nothing. 0 chance)
I honestly don't think size is going to make much of a difference in this fight, as there's very little between them. What is going to make a difference is that GGG has so far shown an iron chin against middleweights, including big hitters like Lemieux and Stevens, so I can't see how a welterweight, even a big, hard-hitting one like Brook is going to earn his respect. On the other hand, Brook has been wobbled by welterweights, so I can't see how he is going to take GGG's power.

The comments about GGG's footwork are spot on - this is possibly the best aspect of his boxing, even greater than his immense power. This coupled with his advantages in power and durability are why I see him winning this fight. Again, I'll state that Brook has clearly the faster hands and defensively there's not a lot to pick between them, but GGG's chin means he can get away with defensive lapses, while Brook probably won't.

The comment I disagree with most is that welterweight doesn't have the talent that middleweight does - I would say the reverse is true. Middleweight has one great fighter, GGG, and a bunch of B level boxers - that's not including Canelo who's moving back to light middleweight in his next fight. Welterweight has at least four A level fighters - Brook, Thurman, Porter and Spence - then add in Pacquiao and Bradley if they aren't too faded, and Danny Garcia isn't far behind. Welterweight is the far deeper - more talent rich division.
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A good question would then be, how the hell is Brook handed the "best welterweight" label when he has all these other great guys in his division, ALL with better opposition, and his own signature win one judge didn't even think he won. Every judge thought Thurman beat Porter. And Keith did it fighting him not hugging and holding all night like Kell did.

So how does handing him that label make any sense whatsoever? Somebody explain that please.
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SFW wrote:A good question would then be, how the hell is Brook handed the "best welterweight" label when he has all these other great guys in his division, ALL with better opposition, and his own signature win one judge didn't even think he won. Every judge thought Thurman beat Porter. And Keith did it fighting him not hugging and holding all night like Kell did.

So how does handing him that label make any sense whatsoever? Somebody explain that please.
Have you heard about promoting a fight? Golovkin is called p4p #1 on the planet which has the same purpose of raising interest to the fight.

Brook is one of top 3-4 top welters. Which one is the best is yet to be determined.
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boxing_rocks wrote:
SFW wrote:A good question would then be, how the hell is Brook handed the "best welterweight" label when he has all these other great guys in his division, ALL with better opposition, and his own signature win one judge didn't even think he won. Every judge thought Thurman beat Porter. And Keith did it fighting him not hugging and holding all night like Kell did.

So how does handing him that label make any sense whatsoever? Somebody explain that please.
Have you heard about promoting a fight? Golovkin is called p4p #1 on the planet which has the same purpose of raising interest to the fight.

Brook is one of top 3-4 top welters. Which one is the best is yet to be determined.
I do not think that Brook will return to welter.

One thing about Brook is that he has tended to fight to the level of his competition. I really like this kid. He has been through a lot and he has taken the ultimate challenge. I hope that he has a gear that we have not seen. Two would be preferable here.
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Tanzio wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
SFW wrote:A good question would then be, how the hell is Brook handed the "best welterweight" label when he has all these other great guys in his division, ALL with better opposition, and his own signature win one judge didn't even think he won. Every judge thought Thurman beat Porter. And Keith did it fighting him not hugging and holding all night like Kell did.

So how does handing him that label make any sense whatsoever? Somebody explain that please.
Have you heard about promoting a fight? Golovkin is called p4p #1 on the planet which has the same purpose of raising interest to the fight.

Brook is one of top 3-4 top welters. Which one is the best is yet to be determined.
I do not think that Brook will return to welter.

One thing about Brook is that he has tended to fight to the level of his competition. I really like this kid. He has been through a lot and he has taken the ultimate challenge. I hope that he has a gear that we have not seen. Two would be preferable here.
If (or I would say "after") he is badly beaten by Golovkin, he may consider moving back to 147. Many of Golovkin's victims blame their losses on weight. Some moved up, Macklin tried to move down.
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2-3rd TKO
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StrapMeUp wrote:2-3rd TKO
For Brook? I assume that's who you mean since you started a thread claiming he'd stop GGG.....
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Re: Kell Brook has no chance VS GGG. Fight is over inside 6.

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Andrew Kearney wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:While I agree GGG wins, I think you're selling Brook short in this one. Brook is at worst an A- level welterweight - he's arguably the best in the division, I would argue that he beat Porter more clearly than Thurman did.
Brook has no chance in this fight. It is a mismatch. Golovkin is faster, hits harder, is bigger, better defensively, he's also a 10x better technician and more accurate which comes from his superior amateur experience. Brook doesn't have a single advantage going into this fight, he is outmanned in all areas. He is going to lose every round. Golovkin easily knocks him out, Ill say round 6, but wouldn't be at all surprised if its within 4 or 3 rounds.
Brook is definitely much faster than GGG and I would argue he's the more accurate puncher as well, while defensively I don't think there's much to pick between them and there's not much of a difference in size, now that Kell has packed on some weight. GGG is clearly the bigger puncher and has the better chin, I'd say he's the better technician too, although 10x is overstating it.
Mate, Golovkin is going to mop the floor with Brook. Golovkin has 5 or 6 times the amateur experience level of Brook. You say Brook is faster, but I don't think so. Defensively and technically Golovkin is infinitely better and that comes with his experience.

Brook won't be able to land any of his shots. Golovkin will land at will and use his strength to wear Brook down.

This fight will be a mess and is over inside of 6. Likely inside of 4. Possibly inside of 1 (Quite literally would not be surprised to see GGG KO Brook in 1 round) :o

100% Mismatch. (Not saying Brook is a bad fighter, he is very good at his weight likely the best welter in the world, but welterweight doesnt have the talent that middleweight has and he's fighting a middleweight here. Golovkin is much better even if they were the same size, so that he also has a size advantage makes this fight a bit of a mismatch. Brook's got no chance. Even if they were the same size, Brook would have very little, less than 5% chance, but GGG is also bigger, so Brook's got nothing. 0 chance)
I was right you were wrong mate. Fight is over inside 6 like I said. I am right, you are wrong.

Golovkin up 3-1 at time of stoppage had the fight continuted Brook was about to be KTFO. Trainer saved his life.
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Good call. Brook said he will go to 154 and that means that Canelo will have to pull out more excuses and this time not to fight Broiok due to the fact that he is a stone cold coward.
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Andrew Kearney wrote:
Andrew Kearney wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:While I agree GGG wins, I think you're selling Brook short in this one. Brook is at worst an A- level welterweight - he's arguably the best in the division, I would argue that he beat Porter more clearly than Thurman did.



Brook is definitely much faster than GGG and I would argue he's the more accurate puncher as well, while defensively I don't think there's much to pick between them and there's not much of a difference in size, now that Kell has packed on some weight. GGG is clearly the bigger puncher and has the better chin, I'd say he's the better technician too, although 10x is overstating it.
Mate, Golovkin is going to mop the floor with Brook. Golovkin has 5 or 6 times the amateur experience level of Brook. You say Brook is faster, but I don't think so. Defensively and technically Golovkin is infinitely better and that comes with his experience.

Brook won't be able to land any of his shots. Golovkin will land at will and use his strength to wear Brook down.

This fight will be a mess and is over inside of 6. Likely inside of 4. Possibly inside of 1 (Quite literally would not be surprised to see GGG KO Brook in 1 round) :o

100% Mismatch. (Not saying Brook is a bad fighter, he is very good at his weight likely the best welter in the world, but welterweight doesnt have the talent that middleweight has and he's fighting a middleweight here. Golovkin is much better even if they were the same size, so that he also has a size advantage makes this fight a bit of a mismatch. Brook's got no chance. Even if they were the same size, Brook would have very little, less than 5% chance, but GGG is also bigger, so Brook's got nothing. 0 chance)
I was right you were wrong mate. Fight is over inside 6 like I said. I am right, you are wrong.

Golovkin up 3-1 at time of stoppage had the fight continuted Brook was about to be KTFO. Trainer saved his life.
Eddie said Brook was up before the stoppage.
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Andrew Kearney wrote:
Andrew Kearney wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:While I agree GGG wins, I think you're selling Brook short in this one. Brook is at worst an A- level welterweight - he's arguably the best in the division, I would argue that he beat Porter more clearly than Thurman did.



Brook is definitely much faster than GGG and I would argue he's the more accurate puncher as well, while defensively I don't think there's much to pick between them and there's not much of a difference in size, now that Kell has packed on some weight. GGG is clearly the bigger puncher and has the better chin, I'd say he's the better technician too, although 10x is overstating it.
Mate, Golovkin is going to mop the floor with Brook. Golovkin has 5 or 6 times the amateur experience level of Brook. You say Brook is faster, but I don't think so. Defensively and technically Golovkin is infinitely better and that comes with his experience.

Brook won't be able to land any of his shots. Golovkin will land at will and use his strength to wear Brook down.

This fight will be a mess and is over inside of 6. Likely inside of 4. Possibly inside of 1 (Quite literally would not be surprised to see GGG KO Brook in 1 round) :o

100% Mismatch. (Not saying Brook is a bad fighter, he is very good at his weight likely the best welter in the world, but welterweight doesnt have the talent that middleweight has and he's fighting a middleweight here. Golovkin is much better even if they were the same size, so that he also has a size advantage makes this fight a bit of a mismatch. Brook's got no chance. Even if they were the same size, Brook would have very little, less than 5% chance, but GGG is also bigger, so Brook's got nothing. 0 chance)
I was right you were wrong mate. Fight is over inside 6 like I said. I am right, you are wrong.

Golovkin up 3-1 at time of stoppage had the fight continuted Brook was about to be KTFO. Trainer saved his life.
Clearly you were right that the fight would be over inside six rounds, but in what way has I wrong? I picked GGG to win the fight and thought it would most likely be a stoppage, but I never made a round prediction. You were also wrong about several aspects of the matchup:

Brook clearly had the faster hands
Brook landed many of his shots and had GGG's face marked up, though he never hurt him
GGG did not land at will, even near the end Brook was slipping most of his punches, though I agree that Brook was finished and it was a good, merciful stoppage, if not a crowd friendly one

Apparently Brook was ahead on the official scorecards too - I had it 2-1-1 to Brook, 3rd and 4th rounds were close and could have gone either way.
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My prediction is that GGG would win by KO inside of 6. I was correct.

I also said I wouldn't be surprised if the fight had been over early. In fact, Brook was staggered in the 1st round and almost was dropped, so I wasn't far off the mark with that comment.

Whoever was "ahead" at the time of stoppage is inconsequential, because boxing is based on who wins, and if the fight is stopped, it really doesn't fcuking matter who was "ahead" at that time. Having said that, HBO had GGG up 3-1 at the time of stoppage and certainly would have had him ahead in round 5.

Golovkin was landing at will, Brook at the most would have survived one more round. He was eating shots to the face in round 5 and thats why the fight was stopped, another round of that, he would have been KO'd certainly. His trainer saved his career (and possibly his health).

I was right, you were wrong, end of.
jezzamundo
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Re: Kell Brook has no chance VS GGG. Fight is over inside 6.

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Andrew Kearney wrote:My prediction is that GGG would win by KO inside of 6. I was correct.

I also said I wouldn't be surprised if the fight had been over early. In fact, Brook was staggered in the 1st round and almost was dropped, so I wasn't far off the mark with that comment.

Whoever was "ahead" at the time of stoppage is inconsequential, because boxing is based on who wins, and if the fight is stopped, it really doesn't fcuking matter who was "ahead" at that time. Having said that, HBO had GGG up 3-1 at the time of stoppage and certainly would have had him ahead in round 5.

Golovkin was landing at will, Brook at the most would have survived one more round. He was eating shots to the face in round 5 and thats why the fight was stopped, another round of that, he would have been KO'd certainly. His trainer saved his career (and possibly his health).

I was right, you were wrong, end of.
I've already agreed that you were right, but again, in what way was I wrong?
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Re: Kell Brook has no chance VS GGG. Fight is over inside 6.

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Andrew Kearney wrote:I mean, this is boxing, anything can happen, but realistically, Kell hasn't a god damn prayer against GGG. Even if they were the same size, Golovkin would easily beat Brook, nevermind the fact that Golovkin is also the bigger man, he's going to absolutely destroy Brook.

Kell Brook deserves all the credit in the world for taking the fight, because guys like Alvarez and Eubank Jr were scared to sign the contract to fight GGG. So for that, Brook deserves a lot of credit. And in fairness Brook is an B+/A- level welterweight. But the problem is that Golovkin is A+, not to mention he's also bigger.

Brook has no chance in this fight. It is a mismatch. Golovkin is faster, hits harder, is bigger, better defensively, he's also a 10x better technician and more accurate which comes from his superior amateur experience. Brook doesn't have a single advantage going into this fight, he is outmanned in all areas. He is going to lose every round. Golovkin easily knocks him out, Ill say round 6, but wouldn't be at all surprised if its within 4 or 3 rounds.
Pretty darn good prediction I'd say. Brook deserves a lot of credit for sure and he was definitely game in there today. But what a horrible game plan they came up with. I'd really like to hear what Brook's camp was working on in camp and what the plan in there was. From the first seconds of the bout, Brook's back was on he ropes. As soon as i saw that, i knew it was over.

I'm sure the corner is going to get brutalized for throwing the towel in when and how they did but I don't blame them at all. If the fighter can't see out of one eye then the fight is over. But something tells me that they had a prior plan with that towel and that they were going to throw it in there at some point to save the fighter. I don't think that Brook went in there to win. He went in there to say that he did. That's how i feel. No game plan.
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