Golovkin vs Brook RBR

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Tanzio
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Re: Golovkin Brook RBR

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amwsnw wrote:I disagree. From what I saw GGG was gaining more and more momentum and backing Brook up at will. When he did expend energy GGG would rest but was still winning rounds. He was 3 - 1 up and with Kell starting to get caught on the ropes and drop his hands I felt it was only a matter of time. To say "without the eye inury"is like saying "without getting punched in the face."All credit to Kell, he's one of my favourites and an elite boxer but he was over matched at this weight. I'd love to see him get Canelo at 154lb.
I saw momentum in the 5th. The 3rd and 4th were both competitive and may have been seen even or for Brook by some.

3G smelled blood and went for the kill. He had expended a huge amount of energy in the 5th, and Brook was still there, not wobbling. A 168 pounder like Froch at his best would possibly begin to impose his will at that point.

The eye injury was severe, not just a punch to the face. 3G did administer the blow but if not for the severity the fight could and should have continued.
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Re: Golovkin Brook RBR

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Tanzio wrote:
amwsnw wrote:I disagree. From what I saw GGG was gaining more and more momentum and backing Brook up at will. When he did expend energy GGG would rest but was still winning rounds. He was 3 - 1 up and with Kell starting to get caught on the ropes and drop his hands I felt it was only a matter of time. To say "without the eye inury"is like saying "without getting punched in the face."All credit to Kell, he's one of my favourites and an elite boxer but he was over matched at this weight. I'd love to see him get Canelo at 154lb.
I saw momentum in the 5th. The 3rd and 4th were both competitive and may have been seen even or for Brook by some.

3G smelled blood and went for the kill. He had expended a huge amount of energy in the 5th, and Brook was still there, not wobbling. A 168 pounder like Froch at his best would possibly begin to impose his will at that point.

The eye injury was severe, not just a punch to the face. 3G did administer the blow but if not for the severity the fight could and should have continued.

And Vitali could've beaten Lennox also...except for that huge gash that Lennox caused. :bag:
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Re: Golovkin Brook RBR

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Tanzio wrote:
amwsnw wrote:I disagree. From what I saw GGG was gaining more and more momentum and backing Brook up at will. When he did expend energy GGG would rest but was still winning rounds. He was 3 - 1 up and with Kell starting to get caught on the ropes and drop his hands I felt it was only a matter of time. To say "without the eye inury"is like saying "without getting punched in the face."All credit to Kell, he's one of my favourites and an elite boxer but he was over matched at this weight. I'd love to see him get Canelo at 154lb.
I saw momentum in the 5th. The 3rd and 4th were both competitive and may have been seen even or for Brook by some.

3G smelled blood and went for the kill. He had expended a huge amount of energy in the 5th, and Brook was still there, not wobbling. A 168 pounder like Froch at his best would possibly begin to impose his will at that point.

The eye injury was severe, not just a punch to the face. 3G did administer the blow but if not for the severity the fight could and should have continued.
I doubt GGG would've went all out the way against Brook in the 5th if he were in the ring with a guy like Froch. He fully expected to walk through Brook at will. I doubt he'd treat a bigger, stronger opponent with that kind of impunity.
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Re: Golovkin Brook RBR

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Tanzio wrote:
amwsnw wrote:I disagree. From what I saw GGG was gaining more and more momentum and backing Brook up at will. When he did expend energy GGG would rest but was still winning rounds. He was 3 - 1 up and with Kell starting to get caught on the ropes and drop his hands I felt it was only a matter of time. To say "without the eye inury"is like saying "without getting punched in the face."All credit to Kell, he's one of my favourites and an elite boxer but he was over matched at this weight. I'd love to see him get Canelo at 154lb.
I saw momentum in the 5th. The 3rd and 4th were both competitive and may have been seen even or for Brook by some.

3G smelled blood and went for the kill. He had expended a huge amount of energy in the 5th, and Brook was still there, not wobbling. A 168 pounder like Froch at his best would possibly begin to impose his will at that point.

The eye injury was severe, not just a punch to the face. 3G did administer the blow but if not for the severity the fight could and should have continued.
GGG would not fight Froch the same way as Brook. Besides, there is no way Froch would be as evasive as Brook and would be still standing.
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Re: Golovkin Brook RBR

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boxing_rocks wrote:GGG would not fight Froch the same way as Brook. Besides, there is no way Froch would be as evasive as Brook and would be still standing.
I partially agree with this statement.

Whilst the general consensus is that Froch is generally perceived to be a slow, easy to hit battle-tested slugger, he is deceptively skilful, but in an unorthodox manner, as we witnessed in his fight against Arthur Abraham.

I also believe that we witnessed a past-his-prime version of Carl Froch when he was badly hurt in the first George Groves bout.

Let’s not forget that the combined resumes of Brook and Golovkin would be considered vastly inferior than Froch’s.

You’re right, Golovkin would be far more defensively responsible if he had to face a prime version of Carl Froch, but the Brit possesses the stamina, durability, physical strength, punching power, experience and sufficient skills to deeply trouble GGG.
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Re: Golovkin Brook RBR

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boxing_rocks wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
amwsnw wrote:I disagree. From what I saw GGG was gaining more and more momentum and backing Brook up at will. When he did expend energy GGG would rest but was still winning rounds. He was 3 - 1 up and with Kell starting to get caught on the ropes and drop his hands I felt it was only a matter of time. To say "without the eye inury"is like saying "without getting punched in the face."All credit to Kell, he's one of my favourites and an elite boxer but he was over matched at this weight. I'd love to see him get Canelo at 154lb.
I saw momentum in the 5th. The 3rd and 4th were both competitive and may have been seen even or for Brook by some.

3G smelled blood and went for the kill. He had expended a huge amount of energy in the 5th, and Brook was still there, not wobbling. A 168 pounder like Froch at his best would possibly begin to impose his will at that point.

The eye injury was severe, not just a punch to the face. 3G did administer the blow but if not for the severity tnhe fight could and should have continued.
GGG would not fight Froch the same way as Brook. Besides, there is no way Froch would be as evasive as Brook and would be still standing.
True, 3G has not fought anyone on Froch's level or of his size. Brook is the most skilled and gifted opponent 3G has faced professionally. A rugged, skilled 168 pounder is no foregone conclusion for 3G.
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Re: Golovkin Brook RBR

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Enlightened-One wrote:I have previously proclaimed the GGG-Brook bout to be a “business fight” that was a “borderline mismatch”, whereby Brook would only be competitive with Golovkin for a few rounds (at most).

I also correctly predicted that the GGG-Brook bout would be a “horrendous mismatch” that would only last “as long as GGG wanted it to”, because “he’ll try to put on a “big drama show” to impress and excite the UK fans… by expecting him to “carry” Brook and force a stoppage before the end of the fifth round.

As a British patriot, I admit that I am slightly disappointed about the fact that everything that I had predicted had actually transpired, because I wanted Kell Brook to score an upset victory over Golovkin.

That being said, GGG’s performance tonight was quite simply majestic. He openly admits the fact that he wasn’t faced with a genuine middleweight opponent, which allowed him to treat Brook’s shots with total contempt, allowing him to become defensively irresponsible, whilst on a seek-and-destroy mission against the cocky welterweight.

Golovkin allowed the Brit to land his shots at will in order to successfully excite the crowd in order to put on a “big drama show”, whilst apparently stopping the much smaller welterweight with ease in the fifth round, because when the Kazakh decided to close the show, the Brit became utterly defenceless, which was hugely impressive to witness.

I watched the bout with a few friends, all of which were only vaguely interested in the sport, so they were influenced in the noise emitted from the crowd, leading them to believe that it was a competitive fight, when in fact it wasn’t.

To be honest, I was sincerely pleased about the fact that Dominic Ingle threw in the towel, despite the booing from the crowd, because Kell Brook was in dire need of protection.

Whilst I’m impressed with Golovkin’s consistent performances, I am beginning to grow weary about the fact that he nearly always engages in mismatches, because his resume is really poor.

I genuinely believe that GGG has the potential to become a first ballot Hall-of-Famer, but he needs to defeat a big name opponent in order to achieve that feat, which will inevitably require compromises in terms of weight and purse split.

As a side note - Anyone that believes that Golovkin possesses a porous defence, because of the high volume of shots that Brook landed, is being naïve. GGG allowed the Brit to land his blows to excite the crowd, because the punches weren’t damaging.
Agreed :TU: Golowkin could finish it at any time. Already in the first exchange Brook got seriously rocked which was when GGG immediately took his foot off the gas, presumably thinking something like: 'wait a minute, I can't just end it right now or all these people will actually realise what a joke of a match-up it actually its'. I couldn't believe how bad GGG looked in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th. Until the 5th came and the man decided he can finally take the boy out of here. And he did it in such manner that it looked like he could have done it any time.
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Re: Golovkin Brook RBR

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Worst [bias] commentary I heard for year's lucky Paulie was talking from his seat on the fence most of the fight sometime's he joined the other two in Kells corner get some new people next time for everyone's sake its shameful :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Re: Golovkin Brook RBR

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..not sure some of you have seen stats:

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Re: Golovkin Brook RBR

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greg wrote:..not sure some of you have seen stats:

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Makes the scorecards look even worse
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Re: Golovkin Brook RBR

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brittish commentators and scorecard during the fight was a bloody joke. i was impressed with brooks second round and in the heat of the fight i thought he got that one. watching it again not so sure. if any one scored any other rounds for brooks, they should just be banned from getting near this sport again. brooks was back pedaling like hell, but still caught by golovkin with ease. im glad it was called quits in the fifth. dude was no longer protecting himself and seemed very very lost.
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