Hozumi Hasegawa vs. Hugo Ruiz

Cutman Scabbers · Post by **Cutman Scabbers** » 14 Sep 2016, 19:25

Could be Hasegawa's last chance at becoming a world champion in three weight classes.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 14 Sep 2016, 19:26

Cutman Scabbers wrote:Could be Hasegawa's last chance at becoming a world champion in three weight classes.

It probably will be, because he's gonna lose by KO or TKO.

Boxing Prospect · Post by **Boxing Prospect** » 14 Sep 2016, 19:29

This really not being shown "live" in Japan? O_o

Cutman Scabbers · Post by **Cutman Scabbers** » 14 Sep 2016, 19:29

gilgamesh wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:Could be Hasegawa's last chance at becoming a world champion in three weight classes.
It probably will be, because he's gonna lose by KO or TKO.

Japanese fan site has Hasegawa 58% to win, Ruiz 41% to win, 1% draw

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 14 Sep 2016, 19:31

Cutman Scabbers wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:Could be Hasegawa's last chance at becoming a world champion in three weight classes.
It probably will be, because he's gonna lose by KO or TKO.

Japanese fan site has Hasegawa 58% to win, Ruiz 41% to win, 1% draw

Key word there "Japanese" fan site. Half of those voters probably don't even know who Ruiz is. I'd be very confident in a Ruiz victory.

Cutman Scabbers · Post by **Cutman Scabbers** » 14 Sep 2016, 20:00

gilgamesh wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
It probably will be, because he's gonna lose by KO or TKO.

Japanese fan site has Hasegawa 58% to win, Ruiz 41% to win, 1% draw
Key word there "Japanese" fan site. Half of those voters probably don't even know who Ruiz is. I'd be very confident in a Ruiz victory.

Yes but the Japanese fans are usually pretty discerning.

What makes you so confident? Is Ruiz that good, or has Hasegawa slipped that far?

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 14 Sep 2016, 20:17

Cutman Scabbers wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:

Japanese fan site has Hasegawa 58% to win, Ruiz 41% to win, 1% draw
Key word there "Japanese" fan site. Half of those voters probably don't even know who Ruiz is. I'd be very confident in a Ruiz victory.

Yes but the Japanese fans are usually pretty discerning.

What makes you so confident? Is Ruiz that good, or has Hasegawa slipped that far?

Both. Ruiz is pretty damn good, and Hasegawa isn't even rated Top 10 anymore.

Boxing Prospect · Post by **Boxing Prospect** » 14 Sep 2016, 20:26

gilgamesh wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
It probably will be, because he's gonna lose by KO or TKO.

Japanese fan site has Hasegawa 58% to win, Ruiz 41% to win, 1% draw
Key word there "Japanese" fan site. Half of those voters probably don't even know who Ruiz is. I'd be very confident in a Ruiz victory.

Boxmob readers are genuinely knowledgeable in their polls, they'll remember Ruiz from his bout with Koki Kameda....saying that I tend to agree with you, and think Ruiz is gonna win.

...they do favour Shinskay to win 70%, Moreno 27% and 2% on the draw...and yes I'm aware that's 99%...

Cutman Scabbers · Post by **Cutman Scabbers** » 14 Sep 2016, 20:39

Boxing Prospect wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:

Japanese fan site has Hasegawa 58% to win, Ruiz 41% to win, 1% draw
Key word there "Japanese" fan site. Half of those voters probably don't even know who Ruiz is. I'd be very confident in a Ruiz victory.
Boxmob readers are genuinely knowledgeable in their polls, they'll remember Ruiz from his bout with Koki Kameda....saying that I tend to agree with you, and think Ruiz is gonna win.

...they do favour Shinskay to win 70%, Moreno 27% and 2% on the draw...and yes I'm aware that's 99%...

What's your opinion on Yamanaka vs. Moreno, BP?

Boxing Prospect · Post by **Boxing Prospect** » 14 Sep 2016, 20:46

I've got a feeling Moreno takes a close one there, at least the odds are way too wide to not put money on Moreno (around 11/2)...

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 14 Sep 2016, 20:48

Boxing Prospect wrote:I've got a feeling Moreno takes a close one there, at least the odds are way too wide to not put money on Moreno (around 11/2)...

Yeah ridiculous odds considering the first time they fought it was a close Split Decision

Cutman Scabbers · Post by **Cutman Scabbers** » 15 Sep 2016, 05:27

Looking forward to both. I imagine Moreno will have learned from the previous encounter.

Cutman Scabbers · Post by **Cutman Scabbers** » 15 Sep 2016, 05:32

Holy cow Ruiz looks huge!

Boxing Prospect · Post by **Boxing Prospect** » 15 Sep 2016, 05:56

gilgamesh wrote:
Boxing Prospect wrote:I've got a feeling Moreno takes a close one there, at least the odds are way too wide to not put money on Moreno (around 11/2)...
Yeah ridiculous odds considering the first time they fought it was a close Split Decision

Odds on Moreno have dropped from 11/2 last night to 2/1 today

fornicating hell!

Cutman Scabbers · Post by **Cutman Scabbers** » 15 Sep 2016, 07:18

Boxing Prospect wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Boxing Prospect wrote:I've got a feeling Moreno takes a close one there, at least the odds are way too wide to not put money on Moreno (around 11/2)...
Yeah ridiculous odds considering the first time they fought it was a close Split Decision
Odds on Moreno have dropped from 11/2 last night to 2/1 today

effing hell!

Cutman Scabbers · Post by **Cutman Scabbers** » 15 Sep 2016, 07:20

By the way, what are the odds on Hasegawa - Ruiz?

Boxing Prospect · Post by **Boxing Prospect** » 15 Sep 2016, 07:32

Cutman Scabbers wrote:By the way, what are the odds on Hasegawa - Ruiz?

Ruiz is 1/5, Hasegawa 4/1, draw 25/1

Cutman Scabbers · Post by **Cutman Scabbers** » 15 Sep 2016, 07:33

Boxing Prospect wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:By the way, what are the odds on Hasegawa - Ruiz?
Ruiz is 1/5, Hasegawa 4/1, draw 25/1

Thanks BP

Boxing Prospect · Post by **Boxing Prospect** » 16 Sep 2016, 07:02

Well now we know the outcome

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 16 Sep 2016, 07:21

Anyone see Hasegawa-Ruiz?

I havent been able to find a fight report yet, but that looks like an excellent outcome for HH....I was fully expecting him to get KTFO again.

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 16 Sep 2016, 07:42

And Yamanaka becomes the first to stop Moreno, putting him down 4 times in the process.

Great night for the Japanese boxers.

Boxing Prospect · Post by **Boxing Prospect** » 16 Sep 2016, 08:06

crusader wrote:Anyone see Hasegawa-Ruiz?

I havent been able to find a fight report yet, but that looks like an excellent outcome for HH....I was fully expecting him to get KTFO again.

Asianboxing has a fight write up. Round 9 was fornicating brilliant so try and hunt the video!

jujigatame · Post by **jujigatame** » 16 Sep 2016, 09:29

I guess Ruiz quit on his stool after 9?

Hasegawa was a rightful underdog but Ruiz isn't a world beater by any means and probably shouldn't have been that big of a favorite.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 16 Sep 2016, 13:14

Wow...Hasegawa pulled it off after all. Very good win for Hasegawa

Gregk · Post by **Gregk** » 16 Sep 2016, 14:36

I'd love to watch a replay of this if it's out there!

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