I am surprised no Rb R for Canelo-Smith

[Tanzio]

I would have done a rbr if I was at home.

[boxing_rocks]

Canelo claimed after the fight that his team offered GGG 3X more money than they did in the first negotiation but GGG turned in down. Of course no one knows what 3 X of what the initial offer was.

Sounds like a crock of sh*t

Oscar De La Hoya confirmed Canelo’s claims and Tom Loeffler corroborated the fact that there have been contract negotiations with GBP. The K2 chief was reluctant to go into specifics, but he did confirm that the 160lbs weight wasn’t an issue, but it seems that there is a sticking point that awaits a decision by Canelo and his promoter.

Nobody knows the specific terms of the contract, so there’s no point in jumping to all sorts of derogatory conclusions without possessing all the facts.

The interesting thing is… have K2 ever tried to make the fight, I mean, have they ever initiated contract negotiations with some of their big name rivals?

People are assuming it’s up to Canelo, but why? K2 never tried to make an effort to negotiate a fight with Ward, but it’s Andre that receives the widespread criticism. K2 never tried to initiate contract negotiations for a fight with Canelo, but somehow the Mexican receives the criticism. Yet K2 feel compelled to make an offer to Billy Joe Saunders...

Are you that dumb or just pretending ? Canelo is a clear A side, so an offer is supposed to come from them. They never negotiated with Ward, because you don't negotiate with somebody like Ward unless you have to, and they didn't need Ward at the time he suddenly became interested.

[samwbr]

Canelo claimed after the fight that his team offered GGG 3X more money than they did in the first negotiation but GGG turned in down. Of course no one knows what 3 X of what the initial offer was.

Sounds like a crock of sh*t

Oscar De La Hoya confirmed Canelo’s claims and Tom Loeffler corroborated the fact that there have been contract negotiations with GBP. The K2 chief was reluctant to go into specifics, but he did confirm that the 160lbs weight wasn’t an issue, but it seems that there is a sticking point that awaits a decision by Canelo and his promoter.

Nobody knows the specific terms of the contract, so there’s no point in jumping to all sorts of derogatory conclusions without possessing all the facts.

The interesting thing is… have K2 ever tried to make the fight, I mean, have they ever initiated contract negotiations with some of their big name rivals?

People are assuming it’s up to Canelo, but why? K2 never tried to make an effort to negotiate a fight with Ward, but it’s Andre that receives the widespread criticism. K2 never tried to initiate contract negotiations for a fight with Canelo, but somehow the Mexican receives the criticism. Yet K2 feel compelled to make an offer to Billy Joe Saunders...

Because Saunders has the belt Golovkin wants. Surely you get that?

[Enlightened-One]

Because Saunders has the belt Golovkin wants. Surely you get that?

And your point is?

I’m questioning the inconsistent “unwritten rules” of boxing fans, whereby two fighters commit the very same “crime”, whilst one is lambasted; the other is praised, when there is no difference in their actions.

Are you that dumb or just pretending ? Canelo is a clear A side, so an offer is supposed to come from them.

Perhaps I’m playing dumb. Is there a formal hard-and-fast cast-in-stone rule whereby the A-side must always initiate contract offers? Has the reverse situation never happened throughout the entire course of history?

What determines the A-side? Do you have a list of confirmed K2 offers that are corroborated by GGG's so-called B-side prospective opponents?

They never negotiated with Ward, because you don't negotiate with somebody like Ward unless you have to, and they didn't need Ward at the time he suddenly became interested.

So what you’re saying is this... it is perfectly acceptable for an A-side fighter to refrain from initiating contract negotiations against a B-side genuine pound-for-pound quality opponent that competes one weight division heavier than himself… even though the aforementioned A-side fighter has the physical capability to compete in the heavier weight class?

Wouldn’t a contract offer pique someone’s interest?

[Badhusker]

It sounds like the offer is flat $10m with no ppv share. The question is what a date is. If that is for next September, then why they are talking about it now?

No PPV share.......about what I figured. No way will team GGG accept, and would not blame them. It's one thing making your biggest payday, but no PPV share? Pac turned down $40 million because of that. Much more money to be made in PPV with these kind of fights.

I didn't see you taking Pacquiao's side back then.

That is true, I didn't. In hindsight he did the right thing making more money. I wanted them to just make the damn fight, and at that time it was the best offer to date. What a lot of people forget is that Floyd was willing to negotiate on the backside if Pac agreed with the $40 million. It was not an offer of absolutely no PPV share.

[CaptainSpacerod]

Everybody knows Canelo is ducking GGG for as long as he can hoping that age will catch up with him

Talking bullshit to Max Kellerman in the ring after knocking over a hopelessly overmatched opponent fools nobody

[Lancenix]

I would have done a rbr if I was at home.

Except for the fact you do not know how to score a fight anyway. It is best that you did not. Thank you.

[Lancenix]

Everybody knows Canelo is ducking GGG for as long as he can hoping that age will catch up with him

Talking bullshit to Max Kellerman in the ring after knocking over a hopelessly overmatched opponent fools nobody

Right on the money here. I agree./ I think Max went after ODH after the fight without directly doing so. I really liked that. Canelo is hiding behind his promotion team while ducking GGG. Canelo has no interest in making the fight with GGG but to keep bringing in fans and not losing any PPV buys he has to pretend like he is not ducking him. It is just a business decision. But if he just stays at 154 and wants to just fight at that weight I have no problem with that at all. I would like to see Brook vs. Canelo at 154. That fight makes a lot of sense to me. Not much else at 154 except the Charlo cowards who do not like to fight anyone. Just a couple of cowards. Andrade is also at 154 and undefeated and yet he refuses to strep up into elite competition as well. The common thread is that they are all Americans and this is typical of American boxers these days except for a few.

[Tanzio]

I would have done a rbr if I was at home.

Except for the fact you do not know how to score a fight anyway. It is best that you did not. Thank you.

fvck you very much too, Farcenix. Try growing a sac and scoring yourself sometime.

[TheBeast]

Saul Alvarez 47 1 1
vs
Liam Smith 23 0 1
Super Welterweight
WBO World super welterweight title


Canelo won by 9th round KO
Smith down once in round 7,8 & 9
https://twitter.com/the13thround/status ... 1979980800

https://twitter.com/the13thround/status ... 2353074176

https://twitter.com/the13thround/status ... 1752687616



Full Undercard Highlights here (a KTFO, Ali once again shows glimpses of brutal talent but...):
http://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/view ... &start=100

ENJOY!!

[Heretic]

Next Canelo fight I will watch will be when he mans up and fights GGG. No more ducking.

[Badhusker]

Everybody knows Canelo is ducking GGG for as long as he can hoping that age will catch up with him

Talking bullshit to Max Kellerman in the ring after knocking over a hopelessly overmatched opponent fools nobody

Right on the money here. I agree./ I think Max went after ODH after the fight without directly doing so. I really liked that. Canelo is hiding behind his promotion team while ducking GGG. Canelo has no interest in making the fight with GGG but to keep bringing in fans and not losing any PPV buys he has to pretend like he is not ducking him. It is just a business decision. But if he just stays at 154 and wants to just fight at that weight I have no problem with that at all. I would like to see Brook vs. Canelo at 154. That fight makes a lot of sense to me. Not much else at 154 except the Charlo cowards who do not like to fight anyone. Just a couple of cowards. Andrade is also at 154 and undefeated and yet he refuses to strep up into elite competition as well. The common thread is that they are all Americans and this is typical of American boxers these days except for a few.

More BS. Andrade has wanted to fight Canelo for at least 2 years, and won't shy away from fighting anyone at 154. Don't bring up the Charlo BS either, because they gave him 30 days notice, and had other contract things going on. He signed the next month, and Charlo went with Vanes instead. Imo, Andrade is the best at 154 if he gets a chance to prove it.

Your Anti-American crap is very tiring to hear over and over again.

[Kalan]

Canelo is full of crap... He's fighting the easiest possible opponents and waiting for Golovkin to get old... GGG-Canelo would do blockbuster numbers but it takes 2 to fight... If Canelo wanted a REAL fight he'd fight Jermall Charlo or Demetrius Andrade... But they might beat the piss out of him so he went with Liam Smith... It wasn't a decent fight... It was a setup meant to give Canelo a certain victory and deprive the fans of a competitive matchup.