Helenius has been suffering from way too many injuries. That ruined his career.
He is now trained by guy who knows zero about boxing. He pretty much just took old drinking buddy to be hes coach. That really shows. He has become sloppy and hes conditioning has gone way down. He was totally exhausted after just few rounds against Duhaupas. He was not in shape to win that fight.
As long as hes not properly trained by real professional he has no chance at the world level. Shame really because he had the physical tools, talent and experience to go all the way
crusader wrote:Airich has been stopped in the first like that multiple times....I would not at all be surprised if he was just looking for a quick way out.
And by multiple you mean 2
Airich is not one of the guys looking for soft spot on the ring from the start. It took Joshua 3 rounds to put him down. 4 for Ustinov. He went 12 against Solis.
crusader wrote:Airich has been stopped in the first like that multiple times....I would not at all be surprised if he was just looking for a quick way out.
And by multiple you mean 2
Airich is not one of the guys looking for soft spot on the ring from the start. It took Joshua 3 rounds to put him down. 4 for Ustinov. He went 12 against Solis.
Charr, Helenius, and Fields....he didn't last longer than 74 seconds against any of them. If he wasn't looking for a way out he must have a glass body.
Asterix wrote:
If Helenius goes anywhere near the top then the heavyweight division is in a terrible state.
perhaps u have forgotten how impressive he was before he got hurt.
I don't think I ever saw him being impressive. Maybe I watched the wrong fights.
He knocked out Bidenko (who many say had actually beaten Valuev in only his fourth fight), Brewster (who had only been stopped once before, by Wlad) Peter (Ko'd him in one less round than it took Wlad in his fight just before), Liakhovich (who had recently fought Valuev, Briggs, and Brewster) and undefeated Gregory Tony (who had beaten Carlos Takam). Impressive credentials for a guy who had only been fighting 2 or 3 years.
x2x wrote:
perhaps u have forgotten how impressive he was before he got hurt.
I don't think I ever saw him being impressive. Maybe I watched the wrong fights.
He knocked out Bidenko (who many say had actually beaten Valuev in only his fourth fight), Brewster (who had only been stopped once before, by Wlad) Peter (Ko'd him in one less round than it took Wlad in his fight just before), Liakhovich (who had recently fought Valuev, Briggs, and Brewster) and undefeated Gregory Tony (who had beaten Carlos Takam). Impressive credentials for a guy who had only been fighting 2 or 3 years.
He definitly had a wide look! Great protege. But now he lost one. From what I read here he will need to reinvent himself.
About Airich: the boxer ISN'T someone you would label as bum.
He may need psychiatric introspection IF he even is gonna continue. Helenius certainly the wrong type of fight for him to take at this stage.
Boxer had done some proud things before.
crusader wrote:Airich has been stopped in the first like that multiple times....I would not at all be surprised if he was just looking for a quick way out.
And by multiple you mean 2
Airich is not one of the guys looking for soft spot on the ring from the start. It took Joshua 3 rounds to put him down. 4 for Ustinov. He went 12 against Solis.
Charr, Helenius, and Fields....he didn't last longer than 74 seconds against any of them. If he wasn't looking for a way out he must have a glass body.
So you are saying that Helenius stopped Airich in the first round just like Helenius did?
What I really mean here is... it is bit misleading to say that boxer has been stopped multiple times in the first round before if it has only happened in 2 fights out of 42 before the Helenius fight.
Airich has also gone full rounds against some pretty decent boxers. Solis and Glazkov for example.
Helenius does hit to the body pretty hard. He has stopped at least 2 other boxers with body punch. The power is legit.
I don't think his power is really that much in question, but his speed and movement are debatable. He's probably genuine European level, perhaps gatekeeper to world level. Might get a shot a world title if he puts together a decent run of wins, but don't expect him to ever get over the line.