Andy Ruiz Jr pulls out of fight with Hughie Fury

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Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:


As long as his condition isn't contagious, it doesn't matter. He's not a model for Abercrombie & Fitch. He's a fighter.
So you think Wilder should step in the ring with Povetkin right now as well? He doesn't need to jerk anyone of in the ring right? So why is a torn bicep a problem? *facepalm*

Of course I WANT Wilder to face Povetkin. I'd be rooting for Wilder, but if he lost I'd get over it relatively quickly. Regarding diagnosing his bicep injury -- that's above my pay grade.
Oke, I guess your diagnose about Hughie Fury his skinproblem is below my pay grade.
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asdfjkl wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Oh come on, a 45 year old Ray Austin, who only fought once in the 5 years before and fought in like 2 months himself as well? Is that a real fight? Or Josh Gormley who hasn't fought since the previous century and even lost his last two fights in that century, now suddenly making 3 fight against unranked boxers who have 19 loses and 3 wins on avarage each, is that a real opponend?
Or a 40 year old out of shape Franklin Lawrence? Is that a real opponend?

Andy Ruiz jr is a joke TBH in my opinion, some of his fights are even a bit dangerously in his advantage and let's get real, it's not like Hughie Fury is 100% perfect with his skinproblems.


It would have been a nice fight and would probably have proved the difference between European fighters and American/Mexican fighters all over again. Real boxers vs showboxers, but sadly the showboxer chickened out again, like they often do.

May I ask what skin problems Hughes has?
http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... peter-fury

A very bad form of acne, it's easely visable in his most recent fights. You can google it all over the place.
Thank you. I was unaware
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Lackeos wrote:Some people remarked that they liked that Ruiz was booking 2 fights 49 days apart and that they wish more fighters did that. Yeah, no. This is precisely why you don't book a fighter for 2 back-to-back fights of his life this close together. Also, see James Kirkland trying to fight 3 times in 35 days and losing the third fight by KO 1 to an opponent who doesn't even have any power. It'd be nice if fighters fought more often than once every 8-14 months, but it's an entirely different story to fight the two best opponents of your career less than 2 months apart.
It shouldn't be an issue how often you fight... Some sparring sessions are going to be tougher than any fight you'll have, so it all goes with the job.. You could fight every 2 or 3 weeks and it wouldn't be a problem if your skills are top notch... They play football every week, and the best athletes are the sharpest at the end of the season.. You should be running 5 miles a day and spending 2 hours in the gym 6 days a week just to maintain your condition between fights.. If you miss 2 or 3 days of training you're not going to suffer at all from it.. It's when you do nothing for 5 weeks and you get a call wanting you to fight in 2 weeks -- against a ranked, undefeated Heavyweight.. You're going to have a problem. You may have to turn the fight down, but you should have been maintaining your condition just in case you got that call.
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For anyone with any further curiosity on the subject, Hughie Fury was supposedly diagnosed with acne conglobota, which appears to be kind of serious.
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To be honest I wouldn't be suprised is Ruiz did not know about this fight.

Also I can't see the card happening anyway due to poor ticket sales.
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asdfjkl wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: So you think Wilder should step in the ring with Povetkin right now as well? He doesn't need to jerk anyone of in the ring right? So why is a torn bicep a problem? *facepalm*

Of course I WANT Wilder to face Povetkin. I'd be rooting for Wilder, but if he lost I'd get over it relatively quickly. Regarding diagnosing his bicep injury -- that's above my pay grade.
Oke, I guess your diagnose about Hughie Fury his skinproblem is below my pay grade.

If its acne or even psoriasis, neither are contagious, so I don't understand the interest in Hughie not having silky smooth skin, unless you're a CEO of a shaving creme company and you're looking for a boxer to promote your product.
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Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:

Of course I WANT Wilder to face Povetkin. I'd be rooting for Wilder, but if he lost I'd get over it relatively quickly. Regarding diagnosing his bicep injury -- that's above my pay grade.
Oke, I guess your diagnose about Hughie Fury his skinproblem is below my pay grade.

If its acne or even psoriasis, neither are contagious, so I don't understand the interest in Hughie not having silky smooth skin, unless you're a CEO of a shaving creme company and you're looking for a boxer to promote your product.
He can't fight good because he's injured and rapidly out of breath... How can you not understand that?
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asdfjkl wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Oke, I guess your diagnose about Hughie Fury his skinproblem is below my pay grade.

If its acne or even psoriasis, neither are contagious, so I don't understand the interest in Hughie not having silky smooth skin, unless you're a CEO of a shaving creme company and you're looking for a boxer to promote your product.
He can't fight good because he's injured and rapidly out of breath... How can you not understand that?

These are probably, but not certainly separate issues. I heard he had some stomach issues, which may or may not be related his skin condition. A lot of young fighters don't pace themselves well.
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Tony1244 wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:

Of course I WANT Wilder to face Povetkin. I'd be rooting for Wilder, but if he lost I'd get over it relatively quickly. Regarding diagnosing his bicep injury -- that's above my pay grade.
Oke, I guess your diagnose about Hughie Fury his skinproblem is below my pay grade.

If its acne or even psoriasis, neither are contagious, so I don't understand the interest in Hughie not having silky smooth skin, unless you're a CEO of a shaving creme company and you're looking for a boxer to promote your product.
Dude... this is not something you should be arguing. Read about acne conglobata before you express your opinion on the subject. It's not even just like cysts or w/e, it's like the cysts join-up with each other and form tunnels and stuff under your skin, and it's kind of hard to ever recover from it while people are punching your cystic acne tunnels. http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1 ... cbppIpw%3D

I don't want to post images like these, but if I don't, then I have no assurance that you will do your research.
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Thank you for those pics, I don't know what I would have done without them. :stop:

When I saw Hughie fight I didn't see anything that looked like that. I'm not a doctor, but I believe there's a difference between discolored lumps and something that looks like it is going to skirt out at you.

Anyway, Ruiz pulled out, not Hughie. reminds me of the Wilder-Povetkin situation, where the later allegedly failed the drug test, and the former got all the flak for it.
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Just thought of something. Ruiz is the #3 WBO contender. Parker and Wlad are ahead of him.

Parker may fight Joshua and Wlad may fight Ortiz or someone else.

So Ruiz may have backed out of the Hughie fight because he got wind of Fury's problems and Ruiz may be offered a shot at the WBO title, perhaps against Haye. :maybe:
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Tony1244 wrote:Just thought of something. Ruiz is the #3 WBO contender. Parker and Wlad are ahead of him.

Parker may fight Joshua and Wlad may fight Ortiz or someone else.

So Ruiz may have backed out of the Hughie fight because he got wind of Fury's problems and Ruiz may be offered a shot at the WBO title, perhaps against Haye. :maybe:
What an excellent post and a great theory also!

What you’ve just stated falls in line with Eddie Hearn’s comments during an IFL TV video published on YouTube earlier on today, when he claimed that everyone involved in the sport didn’t believe that Fury would go through with his fight against Klitschko... and the way he said it, strongly implied that boxing people knew of Fury’s very recent predicament before it became official public knowledge.

Eddie Hearn’s own words on the matter, “I did an interview the other day, saying the 'Klitschko-Fury fight wouldn't happen'... that was last Wednesday and everyone said, 'How did you know that?'

“There was hardly one person in boxing that wasn't saying 'Klitschk-Fury won't happen'... It wasn't a secret!”


Assuming Klitschko-Joshua won’t happen, because it isn’t going to (this year, at least)… I believe that Lucas Browne (for the WBA title) or Andy Ruiz (for the WBO title) would be great comeback opponents for Wladimir.

With Klitschko still contracted to HBO, I reckon (as the WBO Super World Champion) he’d likely face the American, Andy Ruiz Jr, for the regular WBO world title, with David Haye being the next in line to face the winner of the Browne-Oquendo fight for the WBA Super World heavyweight title.
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Enlightened-One wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:Just thought of something. Ruiz is the #3 WBO contender. Parker and Wlad are ahead of him.

Parker may fight Joshua and Wlad may fight Ortiz or someone else.

So Ruiz may have backed out of the Hughie fight because he got wind of Fury's problems and Ruiz may be offered a shot at the WBO title, perhaps against Haye. :maybe:
What an excellent post and a great theory also!

What you’ve just stated falls in line with Eddie Hearn’s comments during an IFL TV video published on YouTube earlier on today, when he claimed that everyone involved in the sport didn’t believe that Fury would go through with his fight against Klitschko... and the way he said it, strongly implied that boxing people knew of Fury’s very recent predicament before it became official public knowledge.

Eddie Hearn’s own words on the matter, “I did an interview the other day, saying the 'Klitschko-Fury fight wouldn't happen'... that was last Wednesday and everyone said, 'How did you know that?'

“There was hardly one person in boxing that wasn't saying 'Klitschk-Fury won't happen'... It wasn't a secret!”


Assuming Klitschko-Joshua won’t happen, because it isn’t going to (this year, at least)… I believe that Lucas Browne (for the WBA title) or Andy Ruiz (for the WBO title) would be great comeback opponents for Wladimir.

With Klitschko still contracted to HBO, I reckon (as the WBO super champion) he’d likely face the American, Andy Ruiz Jr, for the regular WBO title, with David Haye being the next in line to face the winner of the Browne-Oquendo fight for the WBA Super World heavyweight title.

Appreciated. :salut: After the latest cancellation I checked the alphabet ratings as that seems to be a good way of predicting the next matchup and I saw Ruiz was #3 in the WBO. With Wilder having bicep problems, Fury having psychological problems, and Povetkin testing problems, Ruiz may have been promised something.
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Ruiz has been diagnosed with Fatboy doesn't want to box syndrome. On another note I watched a Hughie fight today and he didn't look like he had leprosy. Lol at the old school boxrec clowns.
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Orti-Klit for the WBA super
Browne/Oquendo for the regular
Ruiz/Haye for the WBO

Not impossible considering how inactive this division has been lately.
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Ruiz pulled out with promotional problems. His promoter or manager told him to take the money & sign the contract or don't fight. Ruiz didn't sign the contract so who knows when he will fight now? He could be in line for a vacant WBO title shot if Fury vacates or is stripped. He thinks he is being screwed financially by his handlers. I see a court battle happening
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Ruiz said he isnt fighting because his manager "isnt paying me right" so now he wants a new manager. I dont buy it. Why just now before his biggest fight? Hed rather fight someone who has no chance.

And WTH is this thread about anyway, make believe doctor going on about some guys acne and making it sound like he should be in the hospital isolation ward!?
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Now Joseph Parker’s manager says a fight with Andy Ruiz Jr could happen, with the vacant WBO belt to be on the line

“This Ruiz fight is an option we’ve started to look at because Eddie Hearn is off trying to do a deal with Klitschko and I fully understand that,” Lonergan said. “When Joseph is in the position he’s in: one – he’s the mandatory in the IBF, two – he’s the number-1 with the WBO, three – Tyson Fury is going to be stripped of the WBO belt – these are a lot of opportunities for Joseph and we are 100 percent going to explore the best opportunity.”
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X2

People constantly talk about how bixers used to fight more frequently. What were the quality of those fights? How long did careers last?

At the top level, I think that three fights a year is the absolute maximum level of activity that should be expected, especially given the extreme scrutiny top level boxers face about the quality of opposition.[/quote]bixers like Willie Pep you mean. No... just a different world now plus the money way-much-different!
Are you not a fan too long?
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Monster-Killer-Gang1 wrote:X2

People constantly talk about how bixers used to fight more frequently. What were the quality of those fights? How long did careers last?

At the top level, I think that three fights a year is the absolute maximum level of activity that should be expected, especially given the extreme scrutiny top level boxers face about the quality of opposition.
bixers like Willie Pep you mean. No... just a different world now plus the money way-much-different!
Are you not a fan too long?[/quote]

You can't win

First (and only?) British Super Heavyweight to ever win gold at world youth championships yet people question his boxing ability

The kid fought 12 times in his first 8 months. Gets accused of fighting bums.

20 wins in first 3 years that have been blighted by a medical problem. Not fought enough.

is only 23yrs old in a divison where fighters peak / fight much older than lower weights. Needs to step it up. Not fought anyone. Parker aside how many other guys are under 25?

Hughie is a good prospect being steadily brought along. Don't see the need to rush him. Is he good enough to win a world title now, almost certainly not. Will he be in the future? If his head stays right, he's brought along and remains focused, yes.

As a side unlike Tyson you rarely see him in press or giving it the big one. Still certain he'll be tarred with the Tyson Fury brush even though he's his own man
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