Glad that you have come to your sensescrow wrote:Mancini, Pazienza, tremendous stamina?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Beautiful analogy, all 3 of the guys you listed have fought furiously paced 15 round fights and had tremendous stamina.crow wrote: Yes, Canelo has a very stocky, bulky build. Like Mancini, Antofuermo, older Pazienza.
These guys has naturally so much muscle for a small frame that they had horrible stamina after the middle mark, and ran out of gaz.
They were more suited for weightlifting than boxing.
Canelo will get stuck at middle.
Ok.
Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
What other stadium record apart from Smith, did Canelo break? You still heaven't listed what this record was. Give me specifics. You've not successfully addressed anything.Enlightened-One wrote:The Mayweather & Smith fights broke certain attendance records. The Trout fight info. I supplied was from the Barclays website.keithmoonhangover wrote:I think you'll find you're wrong sir.
Various barometers can be used to measure "record breaking" stadium achievements, not solely the amount of cheeks on seats.
If you want to use semantics to debate over terminology, such as the definition of the word "stadium" or what constitutes as a "broken record", then fine, do that with someone else. All I've done is quote information supplied by the media,
My original claim rings true. You challenged me to list more than one Canelo fight where a certain "stadium" "record" was "broken" and I did.
Not only did I qualify my original claim but I also successfully addressed your challenge... with ease.
Also, a stadium and an arena are two different things. This isn't up for debate. You said stadium, not arena..
You also said broken, not set. These are also two different things.
You remind me of a guy that used to post on here called Rover. Are you the same person?
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Yes, apparently he is the artist formerly known as fugmo. Funny to see that the twat is the hunted now, and not the hunter. Instead of running to the mods to report petty crap, he must hide and keep his pathetic head down when he is ripped on.keithmoonhangover wrote:What other stadium record apart from Smith, did Canelo break? You still heaven't listed what this record was. Give me specifics. You've not successfully addressed anything.Enlightened-One wrote:The Mayweather & Smith fights broke certain attendance records. As I'm fugmo, I will make up rubbish in order to argue semantics, I think you'll find that I'm nothing but an annoying, lying wanker.keithmoonhangover wrote:I think you'll find you're wrong sir.
My original claim is absolute shite and I'm a spastic.
Also, a stadium and an arena are two different things. This isn't up for debate. You said stadium, not arena..
You also said broken, not set. These are also two different things.
You remind me of a guy that used to post on here called Rover. Are you the same person?
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
dberry wrote:Yes, apparently he is the artist formerly known as fugmo. Funny to see that the twat is the hunted now, and not the hunter. Instead of running to the mods to report petty crap, he must hide and keep his pathetic head down when he is ripped on.keithmoonhangover wrote:What other stadium record apart from Smith, did Canelo break? You still heaven't listed what this record was. Give me specifics. You've not successfully addressed anything.Enlightened-One wrote: The Mayweather & Smith fights broke certain attendance records. As I'm fugmo, I will make up rubbish in order to argue semantics, I think you'll find that I'm nothing but an annoying, lying wanker.
My original claim is absolute shite and I'm a spastic.
Also, a stadium and an arena are two different things. This isn't up for debate. You said stadium, not arena..
You also said broken, not set. These are also two different things.
You remind me of a guy that used to post on here called Rover. Are you the same person?
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Canelo-Mayweather set the gate receipts record.keithmoonhangover wrote:What other stadium record apart from Smith, did Canelo break? You still heaven't listed what this record was. Give me specifics. You've not successfully addressed anything.Enlightened-One wrote:The Mayweather & Smith fights broke certain attendance records. The Trout fight info. I supplied was from the Barclays website.keithmoonhangover wrote:I think you'll find you're wrong sir.
Various barometers can be used to measure "record breaking" stadium achievements, not solely the amount of cheeks on seats.
If you want to use semantics to debate over terminology, such as the definition of the word "stadium" or what constitutes as a "broken record", then fine, do that with someone else. All I've done is quote information supplied by the media,
My original claim rings true. You challenged me to list more than one Canelo fight where a certain "stadium" "record" was "broken" and I did.
Not only did I qualify my original claim but I also successfully addressed your challenge... with ease.
Also, a stadium and an arena are two different things. This isn't up for debate. You said stadium, not arena..
You also said broken, not set. These are also two different things.
You remind me of a guy that used to post on here called Rover. Are you the same person?
You asked for more than one venue record and I supplied more than one venue record.
In British English, the words "stadium" and "arena" are often used interchangeably. In fact, the words stadium and arena are synonyms when you look-up their definitions.
Checkmate.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
There you go. Glad you can admit when you're pitifully wrong.crow wrote:Mancini, Pazienza, tremendous stamina?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Beautiful analogy, all 3 of the guys you listed have fought furiously paced 15 round fights and had tremendous stamina.crow wrote: Yes, Canelo has a very stocky, bulky build. Like Mancini, Antofuermo, older Pazienza.
These guys has naturally so much muscle for a small frame that they had horrible stamina after the middle mark, and ran out of gaz.
They were more suited for weightlifting than boxing.
Canelo will get stuck at middle.
Ok.
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Enlightened-One
- Super Lightweight
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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Stocky fighters in their prime, like Khaosai Galaxy, Meldrick Taylor, Baby Jake Matlala, Tony Sibson and Mike Tyson all had excellent stamina.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:There you go. Glad you can admit when you're pitifully wrong.crow wrote:Mancini, Pazienza, tremendous stamina?SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Beautiful analogy, all 3 of the guys you listed have fought furiously paced 15 round fights and had tremendous stamina.
Ok.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
I'm British and Wembley Stadium, The Olympic Stadium, The Stadium of Light, The Emirates Stadium are all stadiums. Wembley Arena, Manchester Arena, Newcastle Arena and the 02 arena are all arenas. None of them are interchangeable. None. Zero.Enlightened-One wrote:You asked for more than one venue record and I supplied more than one venue record.
In British English, the words "stadium" and "arena" are often used interchangeably. In fact, the words stadium and arena are synonyms when you look-up their definitions.
Checkmate.
Care to prove me wrong?
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Rover is now from the UK. Law clerk, same fugmo.keithmoonhangover wrote:I'm British and Wembley Stadium, The Olympic Stadium, The Stadium of Light, The Emirates Stadium are all stadiums. Wembley Arena, Manchester Arena, Newcastle Arena and the 02 arena are all arenas. None of them are interchangeable. None. Zero.Enlightened-One wrote:You asked for more than one venue record and I supplied more than one venue record.
In British English, the words "stadium" and "arena" are often used interchangeably. In fact, the words stadium and arena are synonyms when you look-up their definitions.
Checkmate.
Care to prove me wrong?
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Hey, Rovey, that's why they all were more and more vulnerable the longer the fight went on, isn't it, frigwit? Why don't you fugmo off before I report yaEnlightened-One wrote:Stocky fighters in their prime, like Khaosai Galaxy, Meldrick Taylor, Baby Jake Matlala, Tony Sibson and Mike Tyson all had excellent stamina.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:There you go. Glad you can admit when you're pitifully wrong.crow wrote:
Mancini, Pazienza, tremendous stamina?
Ok.
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
The cockhead managed to post from home while eating a couple of kilos of cheese, all while he was at work or law school, he's an absolute miracle worker, who are you to doubt him!?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Rover is now from the UK. Law clerk, same fugmo.keithmoonhangover wrote:I'm British and Wembley Stadium, The Olympic Stadium, The Stadium of Light, The Emirates Stadium are all stadiums. Wembley Arena, Manchester Arena, Newcastle Arena and the 02 arena are all arenas. None of them are interchangeable. None. Zero.Enlightened-One wrote:You asked for more than one venue record and I supplied more than one venue record.
In British English, the words "stadium" and "arena" are often used interchangeably. In fact, the words stadium and arena are synonyms when you look-up their definitions.
Checkmate.
Care to prove me wrong?
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Oh look! Who is it there?Tanzio wrote:Glad that you have come to your sensescrow wrote:Mancini, Pazienza, tremendous stamina?SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Beautiful analogy, all 3 of the guys you listed have fought furiously paced 15 round fights and had tremendous stamina.
Ok.
Ah yes!
The very notorious Mr Tanzio!
How is your favorite fighter, Timmy Bradley, going, Mr Tanzio?
You know, the one you had beating Pac, three years ago?
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
So now I've successfully qualified my Canelo's events records claim, you want to labour over semantics? You'll struggle to find many dictionary definitions of the words arena and stadium that don't involve both words.keithmoonhangover wrote:I'm British and Wembley Stadium, The Olympic Stadium, The Stadium of Light, The Emirates Stadium are all stadiums. Wembley Arena, Manchester Arena, Newcastle Arena and the 02 arena are all arenas. None of them are interchangeable. None. Zero.Enlightened-One wrote:You asked for more than one venue record and I supplied more than one venue record.
In British English, the words "stadium" and "arena" are often used interchangeably. In fact, the words stadium and arena are synonyms when you look-up their definitions.
Checkmate.
Care to prove me wrong?
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
He is a complete tit. Us old gits will remember when the word Fugmo was a thread locker.dberry wrote:The cockhead managed to post from home while eating a couple of kilos of cheese, all while he was at work or law school, he's an absolute miracle worker, who are you to doubt him!?
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Not semantics. Facts. And you've proved nothing. You stated something, but have no facts to back it up.Enlightened-One wrote:So now I've successfully qualified my Canelo's events records claim, you want to labour over semantics?keithmoonhangover wrote:I'm British and Wembley Stadium, The Olympic Stadium, The Stadium of Light, The Emirates Stadium are all stadiums. Wembley Arena, Manchester Arena, Newcastle Arena and the 02 arena are all arenas. None of them are interchangeable. None. Zero.Enlightened-One wrote:You asked for more than one venue record and I supplied more than one venue record.
In British English, the words "stadium" and "arena" are often used interchangeably. In fact, the words stadium and arena are synonyms when you look-up their definitions.
Checkmate.
Care to prove me wrong?
Let's just go back to stadiums/arenas. Do you still maintain that in Britain stadiums and arenas are pretty much the same thing?
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
keithmoonhangover wrote:He is a complete tit. Us old gits will remember when the word Fugmo was a thread locker.dberry wrote:The cockhead managed to post from home while eating a couple of kilos of cheese, all while he was at work or law school, he's an absolute miracle worker, who are you to doubt him!?
Hope you're keeping well, Kiethy.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Hanging low and left mate. Likewise mate, I hope all is good with you.dberry wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:He is a complete tit. Us old gits will remember when the word Fugmo was a thread locker.dberry wrote:The cockhead managed to post from home while eating a couple of kilos of cheese, all while he was at work or law school, he's an absolute miracle worker, who are you to doubt him!?![]()
Hope you're keeping well, Kiethy.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
If you insist on going down the route of arguing terminology, since I’ve already defeated you with my Canelo’s record event claims, then I will.keithmoonhangover wrote:I'm British and Wembley Stadium, The Olympic Stadium, The Stadium of Light, The Emirates Stadium are all stadiums. Wembley Arena, Manchester Arena, Newcastle Arena and the 02 arena are all arenas. None of them are interchangeable. None. Zero.
Care to prove me wrong?
It seems that you’re using European football stadiums to illustrate your point, so I’ll list 46 of them that are referred to as “arenas”:
• Budapest
• Prague
• Barysaw
• Elbasan
• Kalmar
• Bayern Munich
• Gelsenkirchen
• Stuttgart
• Bucharest
• Düsseldorf
• Tbilisi
• Stockholm
• Amsterdam
• Istanbul
• Donetsk
• Frankfurt
• Hanover
• Moscow
• Kazan
• Leipzig
• Gdańsk
• Bursa
• Konya
• Lviv
• Mainz
• Skopje
• Klagenfurt am Wörthersee
• Duisburg
• Dnipropetrovsk
• Augsburg
• Cluj Napoca
• Leverkusen
• Sinsheim
• Wolfsburg
• Kaspiysk
• Astana
• Salzburg
• Rostock
• Bielefeld
• Magdeburg
• Mersin
• Genk
• Darlington
• Le Mans
• Coventry
• Morcambe
If you perform a Google search on the phrase “arena defined”, the word “stadium” is listed amongst its synonyms.
Regardless, my original claim is accurate and remains unchallenged, hence your silence on that matter, coupled with your insistence to employ strawman arguments.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Your claim was in Britain, not Europe, so that leaves you with three. One of them is Darlington. I live in Darlington and the football team do not even play in Darlington, let alone in an arena. So that leaves two. Out of every stadium in the country. Not a great amount Fugmo.Enlightened-One wrote:If you insist on going down the route of arguing terminology, since I’ve already defeated you with my Canelo’s record event claims, then I will.keithmoonhangover wrote:I'm British and Wembley Stadium, The Olympic Stadium, The Stadium of Light, The Emirates Stadium are all stadiums. Wembley Arena, Manchester Arena, Newcastle Arena and the 02 arena are all arenas. None of them are interchangeable. None. Zero.
Care to prove me wrong?
It seems that you’re using European football stadiums to illustrate your point, so I’ll list 48 of them that are referred to as “arenas”:
• Budapest
• Prague
• Barysaw
• Elbasan
• Kalmar
• Bayern Munich
• Gelsenkirchen
• Stuttgart
• Bucharest
• Düsseldorf
• Tbilisi
• Stockholm
• Amsterdam
• Istanbul
• Donetsk
• Frankfurt
• Hanover
• Moscow
• Kazan
• Leipzig
• Gdańsk
• Bursa
• Konya
• Istanbul
• Lviv
• Mainz
• Stockholm
• Skopje
• Klagenfurt am Wörthersee
• Duisburg
• Dnipropetrovsk
• Augsburg
• Cluj Napoca
• Leverkusen
• Sinsheim
• Wolfsburg
• Kaspiysk
• Astana
• Salzburg
• Rostock
• Bielefeld
• Magdeburg
• Mersin
• Genk
• Darlington
• Le Mans
• Coventry
• Morcambe
If you perform a Google search on the phrase “arena defined”, the word “stadium” is listed amongst its synonyms.
Regardless, my original claim is accurate and remains unchallenged, hence your silence on the matter.
However, my original point was that the MGM Grand Garden Arena is not a stadium. This is still a fact.
You also said that that the Kirkland and Trout fights broke records, which they did not. You are wrong and have no evidence to disprove it.
The Mayweather fight did not take place in a stadium. You are wrong on every count. Hardly checkmate Fugmo.
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Oh, fugm.......I mean Rovey, reported!Enlightened-One wrote:If you insist on going down the route of arguing terminology, since I’ve already defeated you with my Canelo’s record event claims, then I will.keithmoonhangover wrote:I'm British and Wembley Stadium, The Olympic Stadium, The Stadium of Light, The Emirates Stadium are all stadiums. Wembley Arena, Manchester Arena, Newcastle Arena and the 02 arena are all arenas. None of them are interchangeable. None. Zero.
Care to prove me wrong?
It seems that you’re using European football stadiums to illustrate your point, so I’ll list 46 of them that are referred to as “arenas”:
• Budapest
• Prague
• Barysaw
• Elbasan
• Kalmar
• Bayern Munich
• Gelsenkirchen
• Stuttgart
• Bucharest
• Düsseldorf
• Tbilisi
• Stockholm
• Amsterdam
• Istanbul
• Donetsk
• Frankfurt
• Hanover
• Moscow
• Kazan
• Leipzig
• Gdańsk
• Bursa
• Konya
• Lviv
• Mainz
• Skopje
• Klagenfurt am Wörthersee
• Duisburg
• Dnipropetrovsk
• Augsburg
• Cluj Napoca
• Leverkusen
• Sinsheim
• Wolfsburg
• Kaspiysk
• Astana
• Salzburg
• Rostock
• Bielefeld
• Magdeburg
• Mersin
• Genk
• Darlington
• Le Mans
• Coventry
• Morcambe
If you perform a Google search on the phrase “arena defined”, the word “stadium” is listed amongst its synonyms.
Regardless, my original claim is accurate and remains unchallenged, hence your silence on that matter, coupled with your insistence to employ strawman arguments.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Nope! That wasn't my claim.keithmoonhangover wrote:Your claim was in Britain, not Europe...
I obtained my list of European stadiums from Wikipedia.keithmoonhangover wrote:One of them is Darlington. I live in Darlington and the football team do not even play in Darlington, let alone in an arena.
What was the stadium called when Darlington FC played its home fixtures between 2003-2012?
Due to fact that stadium and arena are synonyms, I was simply referring to Canelo’s event records in general. You’re arguing meaningless semantics.keithmoonhangover wrote:...my original point was that the MGM Grand Garden Arena is not a stadium.
My claim about the Trout fight was true. I openly admitted that I "guessed" the Kirkland fight, based on what GBP had told the media.keithmoonhangover wrote:You also said that that the Kirkland and Trout fight broke records...
Due to fact that stadium and arena are synonyms, as I was simply referring to Canelo’s event records in general, my claim about the Mayweather fight was correct.keithmoonhangover wrote:The Mayweather did not take place in a stadium...
Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Enlightened-One wrote:Nope! That wasn't my claim.keithmoonhangover wrote:Your claim was in Britain, not Europe...I obtained my list of European stadiums from Wikipedia.keithmoonhangover wrote:One of them is Darlington. I live in Darlington and the football team do not even play in Darlington, let alone in an arena.
What was the stadium called when Darlington FC played its home fixtures between 2003-2012?Due to fact that stadium and arena are synonyms, I was simply referring to Canelo’s event records in general. You’re arguing meaningless semantics.keithmoonhangover wrote:...my original point was that the MGM Grand Garden Arena is not a stadium.My claim about the Trout fight was true. I openly admitted that I "guessed" the Kirkland fight, based on what GBP had told the media.keithmoonhangover wrote:You also said that that the Kirkland and Trout fight broke records...Due to fact that stadium and arena are synonyms, as I was simply referring to Canelo’s event records in general, my claim about the Mayweather fight was correct.keithmoonhangover wrote:The Mayweather did not take place in a stadium...
Weren't you told to fuckrightoff and don't come back, rovey? You know, when you came here and stuffed the forum right up?
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
Which record did the Canelo-Trout break?Enlightened-One wrote:Nope! That wasn't my claim.keithmoonhangover wrote:Your claim was in Britain, not Europe...I obtained my list of European stadiums from Wikipedia.keithmoonhangover wrote:One of them is Darlington. I live in Darlington and the football team do not even play in Darlington, let alone in an arena.
What was the stadium called when Darlington FC played its home fixtures between 2003-2012?Due to fact that stadium and arena are synonyms, I was simply referring to Canelo’s event records in general. You’re arguing meaningless semantics.keithmoonhangover wrote:...my original point was that the MGM Grand Garden Arena is not a stadium.My claim about the Trout fight was true. I openly admitted that I "guessed" the Kirkland fight, based on what GBP had told the media.keithmoonhangover wrote:You also said that that the Kirkland and Trout fight broke records...Due to fact that stadium and arena are synonyms, as I was simply referring to Canelo’s event records in general, my claim about the Mayweather fight was correct.keithmoonhangover wrote:The Mayweather did not take place in a stadium...
Stadium and arena are not synonyms. The MGM Grand Garden Arena is not a stadium and has never been called one. Much like the Manchester Arena, Wembley Arena etc etc etc.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
You're repeating yourself. I've addressed your comments already.keithmoonhangover wrote:Which record did the Canelo-Trout break?Enlightened-One wrote:Nope! That wasn't my claim.keithmoonhangover wrote:Your claim was in Britain, not Europe...I obtained my list of European stadiums from Wikipedia.keithmoonhangover wrote:One of them is Darlington. I live in Darlington and the football team do not even play in Darlington, let alone in an arena.
What was the stadium called when Darlington FC played its home fixtures between 2003-2012?Due to fact that stadium and arena are synonyms, I was simply referring to Canelo’s event records in general. You’re arguing meaningless semantics.keithmoonhangover wrote:...my original point was that the MGM Grand Garden Arena is not a stadium.My claim about the Trout fight was true. I openly admitted that I "guessed" the Kirkland fight, based on what GBP had told the media.keithmoonhangover wrote:You also said that that the Kirkland and Trout fight broke records...Due to fact that stadium and arena are synonyms, as I was simply referring to Canelo’s event records in general, my claim about the Mayweather fight was correct.keithmoonhangover wrote:The Mayweather did not take place in a stadium...
Stadium and arena are not synonyms. The MGM Grand Garden Arena is not a stadium and has never been called one. Much like the Manchester Arena, Wembley Arena etc etc etc.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Can Canelo move successfully to middle?
No you haven't. Which record did Canelo-Trout break? Show me evidence of it 'breaking' a record and I will apologize.Enlightened-One wrote:You're repeating yourself. I've addressed your comments already.keithmoonhangover wrote:Which record did the Canelo-Trout break?Enlightened-One wrote: Nope! That wasn't my claim.
I obtained my list of European stadiums from Wikipedia.
What was the stadium called when Darlington FC played its home fixtures between 2003-2012?
Due to fact that stadium and arena are synonyms, I was simply referring to Canelo’s event records in general. You’re arguing meaningless semantics.
My claim about the Trout fight was true. I openly admitted that I "guessed" the Kirkland fight, based on what GBP had told the media.
Due to fact that stadium and arena are synonyms, as I was simply referring to Canelo’s event records in general, my claim about the Mayweather fight was correct.
Stadium and arena are not synonyms. The MGM Grand Garden Arena is not a stadium and has never been called one. Much like the Manchester Arena, Wembley Arena etc etc etc.