Canelo-Smith PPV: Golden Boy Pleased With 300K Buys

[lefty]

Incidentally, I wonder how big of a draw GGG would be if he weren't 'unlucky' in being Kazak. Just imagine if he were Mexican, American, or British,.....

Which non-Hispanic or American fighters were bigger draws in the US? Pac and Lennox I guess, but who then? Gatti maybe? Hatton?

You answered your question.

[crusader]

Is that it you think?

[lefty]

Unless you can name every boxer that has fought on PPV it's hard to gauge. However like you said there has been non Americans that have been big draws in the US PPV market. I don't think it's fair to say that Brits or other nationalities bar Mexicans or Americans have an advantage over Golovkin in the US PPV market. Obviously they have an advantage when it comes to performing within their own PPV market however.

[crusader]

You don't think a Puerto Rican would have an advantage? Aside from the shared language with Mexico, there are about 5 million Puerto Ricans in the US compared to about 25, 000 Kazakhs. I also wonder if GGG spoke fluent English, like the British fighters do, if that would help.

[lefty]

You don't think a Puerto Rican would have an advantage? There are about 5 million in the US compared to about 25, 000 Kazakhs.

Okay I should have clarified Mexicans/Latinos generally. That said- not every Mexican or Latino fighter is a ppv star, actually the vast majority aren't.

[lefty]

Crusader- what do you think is a fair split for Canelo- Golovkin?

[crusader]

100-0 for Gennady 'Greatest Ever' Golovkin

Or maybe around 65-35 Canelo

[lefty]

.... fair play mate. We might always agree but I can't argue with that split. It seems fair based on their individual numbers up to now.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

The whole point is a canelo/lemieux ppv would only marginally outperform canelo/Smith. In your never-ending hug canelo and poo on ggg agenda, you made it out like ggg fought cotto. Quick, talk about how hard ggg is chasing him some more.

Well that's just speculation on your behalf. There's no facts to actually back that up..... my never-ending huggery of Canelo? Yeah fair enough, I guess it's a good contrast to your never ending defending GGG's shitty PPV numbers and trying to deny the obviously fact that they're chasing the Canelo fight. So if Golovkin and his team aren't chasing that fight, why were they in attendance at Canelo-Khan? How many of Golovkin's fights has Canelo been at? I'm curious?

There you go. Make things up. My neverending defending of his ppv? Find one post. Of course they want to fight canelo. Again, find one post where I said he didn't. You're constant claims that they're still chasing the fight HARD is what makes me laugh. He didn't mention his name. Go read some more blogs and quote them as facts.

[lefty]

The whole point is a canelo/lemieux ppv would only marginally outperform canelo/Smith. In your never-ending hug canelo and poo on ggg agenda, you made it out like ggg fought cotto. Quick, talk about how hard ggg is chasing him some more.

Well that's just speculation on your behalf. There's no facts to actually back that up..... my never-ending huggery of Canelo? Yeah fair enough, I guess it's a good contrast to your never ending defending GGG's shitty PPV numbers and trying to deny the obviously fact that they're chasing the Canelo fight. So if Golovkin and his team aren't chasing that fight, why were they in attendance at Canelo-Khan? How many of Golovkin's fights has Canelo been at? I'm curious?

There you go. Make things up. My neverending defending of his ppv? Find one post. Of course they want to fight canelo. Again, find one post where I said he didn't. You're constant claims that they're still chasing the fight HARD is what makes me laugh. He didn't mention his name. Go read some more blogs and quote them as facts.

How many articles do you want me to pull up whereby Golovkin or his camp mention Canelo? Is the LA Times a blog? - http://www.latimes.com/sports/boxing/la ... story.html

[SaadOffTheDeck]

How many times do you want me to explain it to you? This is just your vintage stubbornness. Boxing is dead here and bloggers make pennies. That's the biggest story, answering questions posed to you is not "chasing hard" after someone. "Chasing hard after someone is mentioning them in your post fight interview. GGG didn't say a word about him. Antonio tarver chased hard after Roy Jones. Golovkin was chasing hard after canelo, he no longer is. Admit it, you exaggerated.

PS. I believe Canelo was at the Lemieux fight, but I'm not sure. Golovkin was at the Khan fight because I'm sure GBP asked him to come and he was hopeful to get Opie in the ring. Then the huge callout and bail. He's over it, where was he last week if he's chasing so hard after him? Christ you can be a buffoon.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Convenient you glossed over my request for you to prove your accusations against me. I've said 65/35 or 60/40 the whole time.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

You don't think a Puerto Rican would have an advantage? Aside from the shared language with Mexico, there are about 5 million Puerto Ricans in the US compared to about 25, 000 Kazakhs. I also wonder if GGG spoke fluent English, like the British fighters do, if that would help.

Americans are pretty over Boxing in general. Especially when you talk about $70 price tags when there are monthly UFC PPV's that are cheaper and of way better quality. Crawford looks great, he can't draw on PPV. I don't think there is an american that could hit GGG's number in a similar matchup.

[lefty]

Dude you calling me stubborn is pretty funny if it wasn't hypocritical. You're one of the most stubborn people yourself on here when you come to a conclusion on something and there's no budging you. Then if someone disagrees with you, you either resort to ad hominem attacks or just , etc

I'm not sure what blog posts have got to do with anything no blogger that covers boxing has ever been making huge money. You replied to my comments about lemieux not being anymore well known than Liam Smith because Americans don't watch boxing anymore- well even if Lemieux was only pulling in 100k viewing figures on HBO or Showtime that's still 100k more than Liam Smith has attracted having never fought on American television or not having even fought on the North American continent full stop.

Regarding the fact that Americans don't wach boxing anymore- that might be true in it's purest form but who were the people buying Mayweather and a pacquaio's PPV's only a year or so ago? Were they "phantom viewers" or something?

You then had Errol spence jnr pulling a 4.6 rating which equals 6 million viewers fighting a 40 + yr old nobody in relative terms in Leonard Bundu. Boxing is clearly not completely dead over there.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/boxing/la ... story.html

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Spence fought in between the men's Olympic gold medal basketball game and the closing ceremonies. Perfect time slot. If it was completely dead it wouldn't be on. I'm certainly opinionated and stubborn, but I never resort to inventing things that others don't say. So instead of another neverending novel, why don't you snatch up some posts of my neverending defense of ggg's ppv? Oh, you can't because you're fullofshit? Got it.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Do I really need to delve into the difference between Floyd/Manny and now? Maybe that's your problem, you can't grasp changes with time. That must be it. You'll be talking about golovkin still chasing hard after canelo in 10 years.

[lefty]

My never-ending novel .... as you write two posts instead of just one when you could have included everything in the first. Bravo sir

[SaadOffTheDeck]

My never-ending novel .... as you write two posts instead of just one when you could have included everything in the first. Bravo sir

I'm on my phone, honey, easier than one long run on.

[lefty]

Yawn.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

As you continue to divert attention away from your lies.

[lefty]

My lies. What lies? Regarding you defending GGG's PPV numbers. Okay fair enough I'll take that back, that was an unfair criticism. However to claim that GGG and his team aren't actively pursuing the fight is disengenous. You take issue with me saying that they're not chasing the fight hard- how would you define them chasing it hard then?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

My lies. What lies? Regarding you defending GGG's PPV numbers. Okay fair enough I'll take that back, that was an unfair criticism. However to claim that GGG and his team aren't actively pursuing the fight is disengenous. You take issue with me saying that they're not chasing the fight hard- how would you define them chasing it hard then?

Do you even read what you respond too? Lol

[lefty]

Typical Saad. No substance just insults.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Typical Saad. No substance just insults.

Sorry, should I copy and paste my own post on this very page? Typical lefty, blabbering on and making shit up without reading a word.

[lefty]

You're not even responding too. Ciao.