Joesph Parker v Andy Ruiz

[J.P]

This fight is done subject to the WBO striping Fury , What i have seen of Ruiz i don't think he would beat Takam is this Parkers time the grab the "easiest " World Title and get in the US market , i think Parker UD thoughts??

[Rob3_142]

100% early knockout for Parker. He's looking more and more dangerous the more times he fights. He's too quick for an overweight lumbering Ruiz Jr.

[jezzamundo]

100% early knockout for Parker. He's looking more and more dangerous the more times he fights. He's too quick for an overweight lumbering Ruiz Jr.

As a Parker fan, I hope you're right, but I think Ruiz is being underrated by many, largely due to his physique. He looked impressive in his KO win over Joe Hanks, although it seems he hasn't lost any weight or made any improvements since then. Ruiz also seems to have a solid chin, which he needs, because his defense is severely lacking.

Both guys have fast hands, good offense and poor defense - should make for an entertaining fight while it lasts!

[Killer Blow]

Ruiz is a tough guy and won't lie down on such an occasion. However I don't see him winning a single round. Parker stoppage rounds 8-10.

[Tony1244]

I see this as looking like the Joshua-Breazeale fight with Parker being Joshua and Ruiz being Breazeale.

[Portz]

Parker would absolutely flatten Ruiz

I'd be surprised if Ruiz lasted six rounds

[crusader]

I can see why people like Joseph Parker, he's a likable fellow.

Joseph Parker brings strength and stamina to the table but that's it, he doesn't know what he's doing, Andy Ruiz on the other hand knows very well what he's doing and isn't small or fat enough to allow Parker to bully him. I'll be very surprised if Parker gets away from this one without a ko loss on his record.

Ruiz couldn't even stop a badly shot Liakhovich.

Parker has the fastest hands in the division by the way, so it's odd that you'd mention strength and stamina, yet leave out his best ability.

[gilgamesh]

100% early knockout for Parker. He's looking more and more dangerous the more times he fights. He's too quick for an overweight lumbering Ruiz Jr.

As a Parker fan, I hope you're right, but I think Ruiz is being underrated by many, largely due to his physique. He looked impressive in his KO win over Joe Hanks, although it seems he hasn't lost any weight or made any improvements since then. Ruiz also seems to have a solid chin, which he needs, because his defense is severely lacking.

Both guys have fast hands, good offense and poor defense - should make for an entertaining fight while it lasts!

If anything people are overrating Ruiz.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I see this as looking like the Joshua-Breazeale fight with Parker being Joshua and Ruiz being Breazeale.

x2, though I think breazeale is better than Ruiz. I'd be shocked if Ruiz showed up for the fight.

[Tony1244]

I see this as looking like the Joshua-Breazeale fight with Parker being Joshua and Ruiz being Breazeale.

x2, though I think breazeale is better than Ruiz. I'd be shocked if Ruiz showed up for the fight.

I think he may only because its for a "title." Otherwise, no, he wouldn't get near Parker.

[Enlightened-One]

Joseph Parker seems to possess all the physical advantages over Andy Ruiz Jr., considering he’s 2½ years younger, two inches taller, two inch reach advantage and 10lbs lighter. The overall physical size discrepancy though, in the context of the heavyweight division, is fairly insignificant.

The New Zealander has also faced better opposition as a pro, is rated above Ruiz Jr. by the likes of ESPN and Ring and appears to be the heavier handed fighter of the two.

In terms of boxing fundamentals, Andy Ruiz Jr. seems be possess the better skills, because of his punch variety and his sound defence. He also seems to have better hand-speed, although the extra timber he’s carrying may neutralise this advantage if he runs out of gas towards the latter stages of the fight (as we saw when he faced Liakhovich).

The one advantage the Mexican chubster holds over Parker is his superior experience, such as: his 105-5 amateur record (compared to Parker’s 27-8); he has been a pro since 2009 (compared to Parker’s 2012); competed in 29 pro fights (compared to Parker’s 21); and the Mexican has also sparred against the likes of Evander Holyfield and Chris Arreola.

Raphael Zumbrano Love, who fought Ruiz and sparred against Parker, believes that Andy needs a KO to gain a victory on Joseph’s home turf, but he believes the Mexican hits harder and is a better fighter than the New Zealander.

Whilst the common-held perception is that Joseph Parker wins this fight by outworking his morbidly obese foe en route to scoring a decision victory, I feel that Andy Ruiz Jr. will fare better than Carlos Takam did, whereby the one-sided nature of the official scorecards will fail to reflect the truly competitive nature of this fight.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Ruiz has horrendous defense and no power.

[crusader]

Parker only had 35 amateur fights? Wow, I didn't realize it was so few!

[crusader]

Ruiz has horrendous defense and no power.

Ya, if Tor Hamer can light him up and shot Liakhovich can find him repeatedly I imagine that Parker would too.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Ruiz has horrendous defense and no power.

Ya, if Tor Hamer can light him up and shot Liakhovich can find him repeatedly I imagine that Parker would too.

I guess none of his supporters here saw those fights.

[Enlightened-One]

There wasn’t much wrong with Andy Ruiz Jr’s performance against Tor Hamer. For sure, he was a tad reckless and complacent, by walking through his opponents shots, much akin to how GGG walked through the likes of Monroe Jr. and Brook… but as soon as the Mexican raised the pace, the fight became one-sided and he almost immediately forced his American opponent to quit on his stool.

In terms of Andy Ruiz Jr’s performance against Liakhovich, I’ve already stated that he ran out of gas during that fight, but he had the discipline to win the bout comfortably.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He got beat up by hamer for two rounds.

[Enlightened-One]

He got beat up by hamer for two rounds.

We’ll agree to disagree on the matter.

[jezzamundo]

100% early knockout for Parker. He's looking more and more dangerous the more times he fights. He's too quick for an overweight lumbering Ruiz Jr.

As a Parker fan, I hope you're right, but I think Ruiz is being underrated by many, largely due to his physique. He looked impressive in his KO win over Joe Hanks, although it seems he hasn't lost any weight or made any improvements since then. Ruiz also seems to have a solid chin, which he needs, because his defense is severely lacking.

Both guys have fast hands, good offense and poor defense - should make for an entertaining fight while it lasts!

If anything people are overrating Ruiz.

I think a couple of people on this thread are - Parker should be favourite - but IMO the majority are underrating Ruiz.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Great news for Parker he'll be the New WBO Heavyweight Champ if this match is made he will be laughing all the way to the Bank

[Enlightened-One]

"Andy Ruiz Getting Help From Gennady Golovkin To Beat Parker"

Ruiz is now training under the tutelage of veteran coach Abel Sanchez. With a new trainer, a new diet and training in Big Bear, California - Ruiz continues to drop the pounds every week.

And he's also getting a lot of help from Sanchez's most famous client, WBC/WBA/IBO/IBF middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin, who wants to see Ruiz topple Parker for the title.

"We're a team here helping each other. Every time GGG is here he makes me do extra stuff. He wants me to win and be world champion and he is a good guy. But I know that ultimately this is all up to me, aint no one going to train for me, or get in the ring for me. I have to get in the ring all by my own," Ruiz told Farifax Media.

I don’t know about you guys, but not many morbidly or even clinically obese people can touch their toes as easily as Ruiz Jr. appears to. And from what I can see of his shape in this photo, he looks like he’s lost an awful lot of weight.

I originally believed that Joseph Parker’s physical advantages would be more than enough to overcome Andy Ruiz Jr’s superior boxing skills when they fight on the 10th December.

However, now that he’s lost a lot of weight and receiving tutelage, advice and assistance with his diet and training from Abel Sanchez and Gennady Golovkin, I’m beginning to think that the Mexican may stand a decent chance at defying the betting odds by defeating Parker en route to claiming the vacant WBO title.

[Killer Blow]

"Andy Ruiz Getting Help From Gennady Golovkin To Beat Parker"

Ruiz is now training under the tutelage of veteran coach Abel Sanchez. With a new trainer, a new diet and training in Big Bear, California - Ruiz continues to drop the pounds every week.

And he's also getting a lot of help from Sanchez's most famous client, WBC/WBA/IBO/IBF middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin, who wants to see Ruiz topple Parker for the title.

"We're a team here helping each other. Every time GGG is here he makes me do extra stuff. He wants me to win and be world champion and he is a good guy. But I know that ultimately this is all up to me, aint no one going to train for me, or get in the ring for me. I have to get in the ring all by my own," Ruiz told Farifax Media.

I don’t know about you guys, but not many morbidly or even clinically obese people can touch their toes as easily as Ruiz Jr. appears to. And from what I can see of his shape in this photo, he looks like he’s lost an awful lot of weight.

I originally believed that Joseph Parker’s physical advantages would be more than enough to overcome Andy Ruiz Jr’s superior boxing skills when they fight on the 10th December.

However, now that he’s lost a lot of weight and receiving tutelage, advice and assistance with his diet and training from Abel Sanchez and Gennady Golovkin, I’m beginning to think that the Mexican may stand a decent chance at defying the betting odds by defeating Parker en route to claiming the vacant WBO title.

Abel Sanchez is a genius.

[Rob3_142]

Wow - he looks almost like a completely new person. In the long run this will only go on to serve him well in every possible way.

In the short run, are there a number of unknown variables going into this fight? Will Ruiz Jr lose any power from this weight loss? Will he lose the ability to man handle his opponent with the sheer body weight? My mind tells me that this is only good, but I do wonder if there are any negative impacts.

[gilgamesh]

Good to see Ruiz is getting himself in shape, it's usually not gonna make a difference though when you're fighting a guy who was always in shape anyway, and from what I can tell is just an all around better fighter than Andy.

Andy isn't a Top 20 Heavyweight to me. Parker is gonna kick his ass.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He still sucks.