Scorecards in Scotland Today

[Freedom2013]

https://twitter.com/SkySportsBoxing/sta ... 0262823937

Disgusting.

[lefty]

I agree.

[crusader]

NOT a robbery. It was a very close fight that could've gone either way (I had it 115-114 Relikh).

However, the 118-110 card was disgusting and the 116-112 cards were generous to Burns. Relikh clearly won the first two and last three in my view, and deserved a minimum of five rounds.

[rd350lc]

............ again , but not as embarresing as the Beltran robbery .

[crusader]

Jesus Cova = piece of poo

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Is burns shot or the newcomer better than expected? I ask that understanding that burns has been 'shot' several times.

[Freedom2013]

NOT a robbery. It was a very close fight that could've gone either way (I had it 115-114 Relikh).

However, the 118-110 card was disgusting and the 116-112 cards were generous to Burns. Relikh clearly won the first two and last three in my view, and deserved a minimum of five rounds.

There was a knockdown in the last round that wasn't counted, and the bell rang early with Burns being hurt.

[p.f.k.a.cy14]

Nope, not a robbery, 118-110 though. The guy should never judge a fight again.

[crusader]

Is burns shot or the newcomer better than expected? I ask that understanding that burns has been 'shot' several times.

Burns is probably past his best, but Relikh was also better than generally expected, and even though he'd only been past 5 rounds once he clearly had more left than Burns in 10th, 11th, and 12th.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Is burns shot or the newcomer better than expected? I ask that understanding that burns has been 'shot' several times.

Burns is probably past his best, but Relikh was also better than generally expected, and even though he'd only been past 5 rounds once he clearly had more left in 10th, 11th, and 12th.

I might watch it tomorrow after the UFC.

[boxing_rocks]

............ again , but not as embarresing as the Beltran robbery .

People, stop. Rover/fergus/Enlightened will call you racists if you say that robberies happen in the U.K. Boxing is the cleanest sport there is, and all decisions are valid.

[chad]

The title should be "Robbery in Glasgow" which is a pretty common occurence. Heroin and needles don't buy themselves you know.

[Horse]

Not a robbery at all.

[Ricky_]

burns won easy... and i bet Relhik.

[boxing_rocks]

burns won easy... and i bet Relhik.

So, you were wrong twice.

[JCS]

Guys..

This is the typical "Freedom" thread. Don't take the bait.

[Freedom2013]

Guys..

This is the typical "Freedom" thread. Don't take the bait.

I just don't like shady home country officiating.

I imagine anyone who loves the sport hates crooked officiating.

Did you agree with the scorecards today? I had Relikh winning, but the judges scorecards had it wide for the hometown boxer. And there appeared to be a knockdown that the ref didn't count, and did the bell ring early in the last round with Burns struggling to survive?

If this happened in Germany or an Eastern European country, and someone made an identical thread, would you be agreeing with him?

[Freedom2013]

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2016/10/ric ... h-results/

WBA World light welterweight champion Ricky Burns (41-5-1, 14 Kos) defeated #1 WBA challenger Kiryl Relikh (21-1, 19 KOs) by a controversial 12 round unanimous decision on Friday night at the SSE Hydro in Glasgow, Scotland. The judges scored the fight 118-110, 116-112, and 116-112 for Burns. Relikh had Burns hurt in the 11th and 12th rounds. Burns was gassed, hurt and totally ineffective in the last two rounds of the contest. You can argue that Burns was done after the 8th, because Relikh swept rounds 9 through 12 on my scorecard. If you count those four rounds with the first two rounds, then Relikh deserved a draw. But I had Relikh winning other rounds as well, so he should have won. Relikh did win and quite easily in my opinion.

Relikh knocked Burns down in the 12th with a peach of a right hand, but the referee didn’t give him credit for it. I wasn’t surprised.

Burns did a great deal of holding and running in the fight, especially in the last four rounds. It was one clinch after another from Burns. Relikh finally got a little frustrated with Burns’ holding in the 9th, and gave him a beautiful shoulder to the head while in a clinch. Instead of the referee having words with Burns about his excessive holding, he spent valuable time lecturing Relikh about his shoulder. The referee should have taken it as a sign that Burns was holding nonstop and did something about it. Relikh was trying to actually fight, but he had Burns hanging on him like an octopus, hitting him behind the head with rabbit shots. It was interesting that the referee didn’t make a big production about Burns’ rabbit punches. He makes a big deal about Relikh’ shoulder, but not the rabbit punches.

Relikh appeared to win rounds 1, 2, 4, 6, 9, 10, 11 and 12. Burn gassed out badly in the second half of the fight, and wilted under the furious pressure from Relikh. The cheering for Burns’ rare shots landed made it appear that he was doing better than he was. Burns wasn’t doing well. He was missing like mad and holding like no tomorrow. The thing of it was the pro-Burns crowd was ghostly silent each time Relikh would land anything, so you could argue that the judges were responding to crowd noise rather than the actual fight that took place inside the ring tonight. I had to turn off the sound because the commentators seemed to be watching a completely different fight than the one that was taking place inside the ring. Relikk would land six consecutive head shots, and then Burns would land a single punch. The commentators would then talk about the punch Burns landed rather than the six shots he’d eaten. I couldn’t understand that, so I turned the sound off and I was able to get an accurate picture of what was happening in the fight.

Boxing News 24 scored the fight 118-110 for Relikh. I thought it was a nice robbery; although I never thought for a second that Relikh had any chance of getting a decision in this fight. The 118-110 score by one of the judges shows you what Relikh was up against in this fight. He needed a knockout for him to have chance of winning. Yes, the scoring was dreadful. Yes, Relikh deserved the win. What can you do?

With this win, Burns, 33, will be fighting former four division world champion Adrien “The Problem” Broner next. That fight is good for boxing, so I think it’s nice that it’ll be taking place. But as far as Burns winning, no way will he do that. Broner hits too hard, he’s too big, and far too talented for Burns. I’m just saying.

The 10th round saw Burns just RUNNING instead of fighting. It was like watching Kell Brook running from Gennady Golovkin in the 5th round. Burns looked panicked, and wasn’t even bothering about even trying to fake like he was still fighting. It was just flat out running from Burns. I’d love to see the judges’ scorecards for rounds 10 through 12, because there’s now way that Burns deserved to win any of those rounds. He was in the retreat mode in the last four rounds. I wouldn’t be surprised if the judges had Burns winning those rounds, because they saw a different fight than I did. Late in the 10th round, Relikh landed a huge right hand to the head of Burns that took all the life out of him. After that shot landed, Burns looked like a spent battery. He was just gone.

Relikh’s trainer Ricky Hatton gave a huge pep talk before he went out for the 11th round. Basically, Hatton told Relikh to go out and knock Burns’ lights out, which is exactly what he did. Relikh hurt Burns with a huge left hook to the head. Burns then ran around the ring trying to survive, but it was no use. Relikh caught Burns against the ropes and hit him with 15 consecutive punches to the head and body with all the shots landing. The crowd didn’t make a peep while Relikh was working Burns over. But as soon as Burns finally landed a weak right hand to the head of Relikh, the crowd erupted in a huge roar of applause for Burns, as he was doing well. Relikh ignored the crowd and put them back into the silence mode by nailing Burns with 12 more unanswered blows to the head and body to finish out the round.

I came away from watching tonight’s Burns vs. Relikh fight very, very impressed with what I saw from Relikh. This guy has loads of talent. If he had just fought rounds three through eight like he did rounds 1-2 and 9-12, he would have won the fight. I mean, I still think Relikh deserved the win, but he could have fought better if he had emulated Gennady Golovkin. The way that Relikh finished the fight was similar to how Golovkin fights.

I think Burns would have been completely destroyed tonight if he had faced the likes of Rances Barthlemey, Broner, Frankie Gomez, John Molina Jr. and Antonio Orozco tonight. Those guys were all ranked BELOW Relikh. They would have gone after Burns from the 1st round and put him in serious distress.

[JCS]

Guys..

This is the typical "Freedom" thread. Don't take the bait.

I just don't like shady home country officiating.

I imagine anyone who loves the sport hates crooked officiating.

Did you agree with the scorecards today? I had Relikh winning, but the judges scorecards had it wide for the hometown boxer. And there appeared to be a knockdown that the ref didn't count, and did the bell ring early in the last round with Burns struggling to survive?

If this happened in Germany or an Eastern European country, and someone made an identical thread, would you be agreeing with him?

I didn't see the fight.

But the fact remains, that almost all the threads you start are almost identical to this.

Let it fVcking go.

[Freedom2013]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MAYXC3KRt0

[geronimo]

Maybe it's not a robbery, but of course the scorcards were way too generous for Ricky Burns. We must admit that: british boxing it's not honest wit the judgement, we can say the same with german boxing.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I had it 116-113 to Relikh, although I could have seen it as a draw. I definately never had Burns winning, he fought a good fight, it was kinda like Crolla-Linares, But Linares' combos and speed won the fight for him. Burns was rocked a few times, although I was rooting for him, his heart was in the fight, but in no way should he have won. Maybe Eddie was right, his experience won the fight for him.

I knew the scorecards would read out Burns the winner but I was shocked at the wide decision. Even Burns was unsure at that point if the MC was gonna say '..and still'. He looked relieved, he had a tough fight.

Looking forward to Burns and Broner now.

[lazboy]

............ again , but not as embarresing as the Beltran robbery .

People, stop. Rover/fergus/Enlightened will call you racists if you say that robberies happen in the U.K. Boxing is the cleanest sport there is, and all decisions are valid.

You've done it this time. Haven't you heard the myth. If you mention his name three times in that order on this forum at midnight he appears. Not sure if its midnight where you live. Just be careful.

[rab]

Guys..

This is the typical "Freedom" thread. Don't take the bait.

I just don't like shady home country officiating.

I imagine anyone who loves the sport hates crooked officiating.

Did you agree with the scorecards today? I had Relikh winning, but the judges scorecards had it wide for the hometown boxer. And there appeared to be a knockdown that the ref didn't count, and did the bell ring early in the last round with Burns struggling to survive?

If this happened in Germany or an Eastern European country, and someone made an identical thread, would you be agreeing with him?

i hate poor officiating, but at the same time recognise judging is subjective. were the score cards way out, yes i think they were, so i don't agree with the scoring.

it may have "appeared" to be a knockdown to you, to me it was a tired fighter falling forward and an arm round the back of the head/neck by relik pulling him forward slightly. a slow motion replay might prove me wrong though.

did the bell ring early in the 12 th ? nope. watch the posted video link. 12 th round bell went bang on 3 mins.

in a tight fight like that i cannot think of any other country or venue where a hometown world champion would have lost that fight on points. even a draw would have seen burns retaining his title.

to be clear i am a big fan of burns,it is over 11 years since i the first show i went to where he was on the card so i admit i will have a personal bias. yes he has had very poor decisions go for him in the past. this was not one of them imo. the scoring was poor but the win can be easily justified ,again imo.

[BitPlayer]

NOT a robbery. It was a very close fight that could've gone either way (I had it 115-114 Relikh).

However, the 118-110 card was disgusting and the 116-112 cards were generous to Burns. Relikh clearly won the first two and last three in my view, and deserved a minimum of five rounds.

This.