Kovalev vs Ward WON’T decide No.1 P-4-P because GGG is still best - Freddie Roach

[Like a Boss]

Freddie Roach says the winner of the Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward fight next month won’t decide who is the best pound-for-pound fighter in his view, because he still believes that middleweight champion Gennady “GGG” Golovkin is the best fighter in the sport of boxing pound-for-pound.

If anything, Roach says the winner of the November 5th fight between Kovalev and Ward will bring the winner closer to where Golovkin is, but it WON’T make them better than him.

[DannyMCR]

But if Kovalev beats Ward or vice versa, that's better than anyone Golovkin has beaten..

[Asterix]

But if Kovalev beats Ward or vice versa, that's better than anyone Golovkin has beaten..

Exactly. It has to be based on achievements, not potential achievements.

[Keko]

But if Kovalev beats Ward or vice versa, that's better than anyone Golovkin has beaten..

Exactly. It has to be based on achievements, not potential achievements.

I agree!

Ward has more better resume!

[Badhusker]

Well, if GGG wants the fantasy pfp title, he can move up and take on the winner. I personally think he would have a harder time with Ward due to styles, but doubt if he fights either.

[boxing_rocks]

What Roach meant is that Golovkin is a better fighter than both Kova and Ward. Resumes don't fight in the ring. You are entitled to have different opinions and think that you are better experts than Roach.

[lefty]

Roach always favours aggressive fighters over defensive fighters so his opinion is a bit skewed anyway. He claimed for years that Pacquaio was better than Mayweather.

[Enlightened-One]

What Roach meant is that Golovkin is a better fighter than both Kova and Ward. Resumes don't fight in the ring. You are entitled to have different opinions and think that you are better experts than Roach.

Gennady Golovkin has the talent and the potential to become a dead-cert first ballot Hall-of-Famer, but unfortunately for him, you can’t earn “greatness” by defeating ordinary fighters, regardless as to whether he is being ducked or not.

Also, I feel that his trainer, Abel Sanchez, is actually tarnishing his legacy by persistently claiming that GGG is capable of fighting at 154lbs, 168lbs and 175lbs. Sanchez feels that Gennady can defeat the likes of Ward, Kovalev and Stevenson. And therein lies the problem.

When Tom Loeffler was persistently challenged on Sanchez’s claims when interviewed by Dontae’s Boxing Nation, he seemed a bit embarrassed and weary about having to address Abel’s claims. His mannerisms suggested frustration… almost as though he was thinking “FFS! Not more of this nonsense!”

GGG’s critics will use Sanchez’s claims as ammunition to undermine Golovkin’s credentials, because let’s face it, people are going to question why he has refrained from competing in other weight classes, especially considering the talent pool of 160lb-ers is rather shallow.

So in a way, I kind of feel sorry for Golovkin, because Sanchez’s bold claims have opened him up for criticism. In the same way that GGG’s opponents are often accused of cowardice, Gennady is vulnerable to receiving the same sort of criticism for choosing to remain in his 160lb comfort zone, purely because of Abel’s bizarre claims.

[boxing_rocks]

Roach always favours aggressive fighters over defensive fighters so his opinion is a bit skewed anyway. He claimed for years that Pacquaio was better than Mayweather.

With Pac or Cotto he had a clear agenda. I am not seeing how he would be interested in selling GGG now.

[lefty]

Roach always favours aggressive fighters over defensive fighters so his opinion is a bit skewed anyway. He claimed for years that Pacquaio was better than Mayweather.

With Pac or Cotto he had a clear agenda. I am not seeing how he would be interested in selling GGG now.

As I said in the first part of the post; he prefers aggressive come forward fighters to more defensive minded fighters ie Ward. Even Kovalev I wouldn't say is as aggressive in his approach as Golovkin. I'm pretty sure Roach said in the past that he didn't think Golovkin was as good as he was hyped to be. He changes his mind non stop.

[boxing_rocks]

Roach always favours aggressive fighters over defensive fighters so his opinion is a bit skewed anyway. He claimed for years that Pacquaio was better than Mayweather.

With Pac or Cotto he had a clear agenda. I am not seeing how he would be interested in selling GGG now.

As I said in the first part of the post; he prefers aggressive come forward fighters to more defensive minded fighters ie Ward. Even Kovalev I wouldn't say is as aggressive in his approach as Golovkin. I'm pretty sure Roach said in the past that he didn't think Golovkin was as good as he was hyped to be. He changes his mind non stop.

In the past, when GGG was Cotto's mandatory, Roach had an agenda.

Speaking about favoring aggressive fighters, who doesn't ? One can only prefer to watch a runner or a spoiler if he got a non-boxing agenda.

[amwsnw]

Ward would need to beat Kovalev, then have a few more decent wins to take the mantle of P4P. Kovalev wont overtake GGG in that spot.

[Evander]

Unless the Kovalev v Ward fight is a complete dud then I'll keep the Number 1 spot vacant, but if either boxer wins fairly well I'll move them up to the Number 1 position even if it's temporarily.
I agree with many others when they say GGG is a superb boxer but he doesn't have the names on his record it's as simple as that.
Kovalev v Ward is a great match up and a highly anticipated fight, let's hope whoever wins that above and beyond anything that the fight is a very good one, that's probably the most important thing for the sport.