If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
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T w_savage
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Re: If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
I like the Lara fight for GGG , it would pose questions of GGG that's he's never been asked in a pro ring and a fight between the two would show us whether he can deal with a awkward defensive fighter in Lara.
It would be intriguing imo, maybe not the 'big drama show' many want but would be a Intresting fight to watch from my PoV.
More Intresting than the brook fight imo, that was a clear mismatch.
It would be intriguing imo, maybe not the 'big drama show' many want but would be a Intresting fight to watch from my PoV.
More Intresting than the brook fight imo, that was a clear mismatch.
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apollo creed
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Re: If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
Stylistically, this fight is so intriguing. Lara and BJS have interesting styles. 
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boxing_rocks
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Re: If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
GGG dealt with an awkward defensive fighter Monroe Jr just fine.T w_savage wrote:I like the Lara fight for GGG , it would pose questions of GGG that's he's never been asked in a pro ring and a fight between the two would show us whether he can deal with a awkward defensive fighter in Lara.
It would be intriguing imo, maybe not the 'big drama show' many want but would be a Intresting fight to watch from my PoV.
More Intresting than the brook fight imo, that was a clear mismatch.
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T w_savage
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Re: If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
Southpaw, but not as tricky as Lara imo.. Still Lara is not really a 160 fighter so..boxing_rocks wrote:GGG dealt with an awkward defensive fighter Monroe Jr just fine.T w_savage wrote:I like the Lara fight for GGG , it would pose questions of GGG that's he's never been asked in a pro ring and a fight between the two would show us whether he can deal with a awkward defensive fighter in Lara.
It would be intriguing imo, maybe not the 'big drama show' many want but would be a Intresting fight to watch from my PoV.
More Intresting than the brook fight imo, that was a clear mismatch.
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nuthin4sumpthin
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Re: If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
Yeah and it's still more than Luis DeCubas Jr has done.Enlightened-One wrote:That was a general enquiry K2 was making to discuss the future possibility of matching Golovkin against Haymon's guys. It wasn't a definite and specific offer to Lara to initiate contract negotiations. There's a difference.nuthin4sumpthin wrote:Yeah we know Lara's team hasn't done anything except talk about the fight on twitter to generate interest in whatever garbage fight Lara has next.Enlightened-One wrote: The video is only six months old, filmed a week before the Wade fight, then came the lengthy Eubank Jr. negotiations, next came the Brook fight and finally the long drawn out WBA-Jacobs mandatory contract negotiations.
I don't mind being proven wrong if you can backup your claims, but I personally doubt you can.
Both Lara and Golvkin's manager's have said that they've not made an effort to negotiate the fight and I believe them.
Tom Loeffler actually made a phone call about it.
DeCubas Jr says so himself at 45 sec here:
https://youtu.be/jqBpdwKIFHU?t=43
"Tom reached out to Al Haymon." I guess DeCubas doesn't realize that he can make outgoing calls on his "twitter machine"
They DO NOT want any part of GGG
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Enlightened-One
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Re: If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
Personally speaking, it's dishonest to award kudos when none has been earned.nuthin4sumpthin wrote:Yeah and it's still more than Luis DeCubas Jr has done.Enlightened-One wrote:That was a general enquiry K2 was making to discuss the future possibility of matching Golovkin against Haymon's guys. It wasn't a definite and specific offer to Lara to initiate contract negotiations. There's a difference.nuthin4sumpthin wrote: Yeah we know Lara's team hasn't done anything except talk about the fight on twitter to generate interest in whatever garbage fight Lara has next.
Tom Loeffler actually made a phone call about it.
DeCubas Jr says so himself at 45 sec here:
https://youtu.be/jqBpdwKIFHU?t=43
"Tom reached out to Al Haymon." I guess DeCubas doesn't realize that he can make outgoing calls on his "twitter machine"
They DO NOT want any part of GGG
Simply put, (by your own admission) what you had originally claimed never happened and no one should applaud or overstate the significance of meaningless gestures.
Re: If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
Do you blame him? It's dangerous to hook your wagon up to a boxer that is unreliable and already backed out once. Look how much time Wlad has wasted with the unreliable Fury? It will be well over a year of inactivity as a result and zero dollars made in the ring. Adonis hasn't fought anyone worth watching for years. Williams was a fish and we all knew it so we can't count that. He'd prefer to continue to fight garbage in Canada so he run around the ring like an imbecile after knocking them out. He's the bottom of barrel.Enlightened-One wrote:Are you aware about Kovalev (as the mandatory challenger) withdrawing from the WBC's purse bid to face Stevenson?caldo2025 wrote:I'm referring to the first go-round with talks. When a date was penciled in on the schedule and HBO was actively marketing the fight. Obviously, there's been multiple negotiations between the two boxers camps. But the first negotiation, the one that was closest to come to fruition, was without a doubt, blocked purposely from Stevenson. HBO/SHO's relationship was at the very worst stage at the time. It clearly killed the chances of the fight happening. That's common knowledge so let's here whatever garbage you can use to avert that?Enlightened-One wrote: What about the WBC purse bid situation or aren't you aware about that?
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Enlightened-One
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Re: If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
When Sergey was a TV network free agent, Kathy Duva petitioned HARD to make Kovalev the WBC's mandatory challenger to Stevenson's world title.caldo2025 wrote:Do you blame him? It's dangerous to hook your wagon up to a boxer that is unreliable and already backed out once. Look how much time Wlad has wasted with the unreliable Fury? It will be well over a year of inactivity as a result and zero dollars made in the ring. Adonis hasn't fought anyone worth watching for years. Williams was a fish and we all knew it so we can't count that. He'd prefer to continue to fight garbage in Canada so he run around the ring like an imbecile after knocking them out. He's the bottom of barrel.Enlightened-One wrote:Are you aware about Kovalev (as the mandatory challenger) withdrawing from the WBC's purse bid to face Stevenson?caldo2025 wrote:
I'm referring to the first go-round with talks. When a date was penciled in on the schedule and HBO was actively marketing the fight. Obviously, there's been multiple negotiations between the two boxers camps. But the first negotiation, the one that was closest to come to fruition, was without a doubt, blocked purposely from Stevenson. HBO/SHO's relationship was at the very worst stage at the time. It clearly killed the chances of the fight happening. That's common knowledge so let's here whatever garbage you can use to avert that?
The WBC adhered to Duva's demands, by making Kovalev their mandatory challenger to Stevenson's world title and then ordered the bout to proceed to purse bids when both camps failed to agree the terms of the contract.
Kathy Duva subsequently withdrew Kovalev from the purse bid process and also renounced his mandatory challenger status after Krusher had decided to sign an exclusive contract with HBO, because Main Events would have refused or been unable to participate if they lost the purse bid.
Meanwhile, GYM, Haymon and Stevenson had already committed themselves to compete in the bout, regardless as to whoever won the purse bid.
The bottom line: Kovalev preferred to renew and remain tied to his exclusive contract with HBO in preference of a guaranteed shot at Stevenson.
Duva had no intention of matching Krusher against Stevenson, as her lobbying the WBC for the Russian to gain a shot at their world title, with the potential of Showtime covering the bout, was merely a ploy to help negotiate Sergey's exclusive contract renewal with HBO.
Kathy Duva now claims that Krusher is only able to face Stevenson under their stipulated terms alone, such as HBO being the only network allowed to televise the fight, regardless as to whether Haymon and Showtime are able to guarantee Kovalev a much bigger payday than if HBO and Main Events "owned" the staging of the fight.
Those are the facts! You're more than welcome to continue spreading your derogatory false claims, if that's what you're compelled to do, but at least people can evaluate the amount of "truth" and value contained within the content of your comments with an understanding of the events that actually took place in real-world.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
GGG didn't ask for Brook. Hearn offered Brook then offered GGG. Who else was really gonna fight GGG?BitPlayer wrote:But not Kell Brook?Enlightened-One wrote:Last year, Abel Sanchez claimed that Lara is a smaller name than Monroe Jr. and HBO couldn't sell that fight. He also says that Erislandy needs to compete in the 160lb weight division before Golovkin would consider facing him, because doing so now would make GGG vulnerable to receiving criticism for competing against a smaller man.
Lara still competes at 154lbs and despite Golovkin’s willingness to face smaller men, the situation hasn’t changed since Sanchez made those claims.
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apollo creed
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Re: If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
Yup, some people are acting really dumb. GGG was screwed by Eubanks and he had to take the Brook fight when the offer was made.Ruthless-RKO wrote:GGG didn't ask for Brook. Hearn offered Brook then offered GGG. Who else was really gonna fight GGG?BitPlayer wrote:But not Kell Brook?Enlightened-One wrote:Last year, Abel Sanchez claimed that Lara is a smaller name than Monroe Jr. and HBO couldn't sell that fight. He also says that Erislandy needs to compete in the 160lb weight division before Golovkin would consider facing him, because doing so now would make GGG vulnerable to receiving criticism for competing against a smaller man.
Lara still competes at 154lbs and despite Golovkin’s willingness to face smaller men, the situation hasn’t changed since Sanchez made those claims.
Re: If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
apollo creed wrote:Yup, some people are acting really dumb. GGG was screwed by Eubanks and he had to take the Brook fight when the offer was made.Ruthless-RKO wrote:GGG didn't ask for Brook. Hearn offered Brook then offered GGG. Who else was really gonna fight GGG?BitPlayer wrote: But not Kell Brook?
You have got to be kidding me?! GGG HAD to take the Brook fight? What a load of BS. Make it sound like GGG HAD to fight a welterweight? Or what? lol Using that example to try to explain why he won't fight Lara is hilarious.
Lara is an interesting fight because he is such a different style. But go ahead, spin it how you want, fine.
Re: If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
He didn't have to fight Brook, but the $5m sure made it an attractive deal.
Would GGG get that to fight Lara?
Would GGG get that to fight Lara?
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boxing_rocks
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Re: If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
GGG had a date with HBO and the arena booked. He had to take a fight if he didn't want to wait another 2-3 months. If WBA didn't rule that Jacobs has to be Golovkin's next opponent, Gennady would fight somebody else (including Lara if he agreed) on December 10th on HBO.Badhusker wrote:apollo creed wrote:Yup, some people are acting really dumb. GGG was screwed by Eubanks and he had to take the Brook fight when the offer was made.Ruthless-RKO wrote:
GGG didn't ask for Brook. Hearn offered Brook then offered GGG. Who else was really gonna fight GGG?
You have got to be kidding me?! GGG HAD to take the Brook fight? What a load of BS. Make it sound like GGG HAD to fight a welterweight? Or what? lol Using that example to try to explain why he won't fight Lara is hilarious.
Lara is an interesting fight because he is such a different style. But go ahead, spin it how you want, fine.
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apollo creed
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Re: If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
Yup but some people are keep acting blind.boxing_rocks wrote:GGG had a date with HBO and the arena booked. He had to take a fight if he didn't want to wait another 2-3 months. If WBA didn't rule that Jacobs has to be Golovkin's next opponent, Gennady would fight somebody else (including Lara if he agreed) on December 10th on HBO.Badhusker wrote:apollo creed wrote:
Yup, some people are acting really dumb. GGG was screwed by Eubanks and he had to take the Brook fight when the offer was made.
You have got to be kidding me?! GGG HAD to take the Brook fight? What a load of BS. Make it sound like GGG HAD to fight a welterweight? Or what? lol Using that example to try to explain why he won't fight Lara is hilarious.
Lara is an interesting fight because he is such a different style. But go ahead, spin it how you want, fine.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
I'm a Lara fan, but he hasn't had a meaningful fight for years. Honestly I think al is concerned about him plucking off some of his more marketable fighters at 54. GGG doesn't appear to be hard to find.Badhusker wrote:apollo creed wrote:Yup, some people are acting really dumb. GGG was screwed by Eubanks and he had to take the Brook fight when the offer was made.Ruthless-RKO wrote:
GGG didn't ask for Brook. Hearn offered Brook then offered GGG. Who else was really gonna fight GGG?
You have got to be kidding me?! GGG HAD to take the Brook fight? What a load of BS. Make it sound like GGG HAD to fight a welterweight? Or what? lol Using that example to try to explain why he won't fight Lara is hilarious.
Lara is an interesting fight because he is such a different style. But go ahead, spin it how you want, fine.
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nuthin4sumpthin
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Re: If not GGG vs Jacobs, why not Lara ?
And Lara doesn't want any part of Golovkin.Badhusker wrote:apollo creed wrote:Yup, some people are acting really dumb. GGG was screwed by Eubanks and he had to take the Brook fight when the offer was made.Ruthless-RKO wrote:
GGG didn't ask for Brook. Hearn offered Brook then offered GGG. Who else was really gonna fight GGG?
You have got to be kidding me?! GGG HAD to take the Brook fight? What a load of BS. Make it sound like GGG HAD to fight a welterweight? Or what? lol Using that example to try to explain why he won't fight Lara is hilarious.
Lara is an interesting fight because he is such a different style. But go ahead, spin it how you want, fine.
That is not spin, that is a fact. All Lara's team does is talk about it on twitter.
Lara wouldn't do any better against GGG than Willie Monroe Jr did and you people calling for this fight would be the first ones jumping on the internet to cry about "SMDH GGG be pickin on little fiters!" and call Lara a bum.