Who is the most protected boxer right now?

[Rob3_142]

So Molina is the best they can get? Wilder got a hard time for fighting Chris Arreola, now Joshua is fighting someone Arreola beat in a round. Chisora would've been better, Hughie Fury would've been better, Haye would've been better, Duhaupas would've been better, Takam would've been better. Pulev would actualy have been a credible defense.

Wow, you are hard to please.

Right, seeming that you completely ignored my question anyway;

Chisora has been offered the fight several times, rejected. Hughie Fury was offered several times, rejected. Duhaupas and Takam are already set to fight each other in a WBC mandatory. Pulev was offered the fight several times, rejected.

I mean what is wrong with you? You must surely already know these guys are unavailable? What is Joshua supposed to do? Do you see anyone in the IBF top 15 calling Joshua out? No I didn't think so.

H.Fury and Chisora rejected it because they were offered peanuts, and I'm pretty sure they'd rather have a title shot than an eliminator.

If no one is taking the fight clearly he isn't offering enough, H.Fury was meant to have only been offered 200k.

Do you mean the peanuts which were somewhere in the region of 4 times what they eventually accepted in other fights? How much has Hughie been offered elsewhere? What makes you think Hughie deserves more?

[Lackeos]

AJ

Wilder's wins over Stiverne and Duhaupas are better than anyone on Joshua's resume.

You make a valid point, AJ's level of opposition has been appauling.

But for christ sake man, don't use Deontays record as a means of comparison, it's hardly a shining example of taking on the very best of the best

No, it hasn't been appalling. His professional debut was only 3 years ago, and he's a 27-year-old heavyweight. When Deontay Wilder was 3 years into his professional career, he was fighting Daniel Cota, David Long, and Marlon Hayes. When Lucas Browne was 3 years into his pro career, he was fighting Colin Wilson and Paul Butlin. When Luis Ortiz was 3 years into his pro career, he was fighting Joseph Rabotte and Alex Gonzales. When Wlad was 3 years into his pro career, he was fighting Phil Jackson and Lajos Eros. When Nikolay Valuev was 3 years into his career, he was fighting Neil Kirkwood and Darren Fearn. When Vitali was 3 years into his career, he was fighting Obed Sullivan and Ed Mahone. When Ruslan Chagaev was 3 years into his career, he was fighting Everett Martin and val Smith. When Tyson Fury was 3 years into his pro career, he was fighting Neven Pajkic and Martin Rogan.

In conclusion, you completely lack perspective. So does tigermoth87.

[davie]

AJ

Wilder's wins over Stiverne and Duhaupas are better than anyone on Joshua's resume.

You make a valid point, AJ's level of opposition has been appauling.

But for christ sake man, don't use Deontays record as a means of comparison, it's hardly a shining example of taking on the very best of the best

No, it hasn't been appalling. His professional debut was only 3 years ago, and he's a 27-year-old heavyweight. When Deontay Wilder was 3 years into his professional career, he was fighting Daniel Cota, David Long, and Marlon Hayes. When Lucas Browne was 3 years into his pro career, he was fighting Colin Wilson and Paul Butlin. When Luis Ortiz was 3 years into his pro career, he was fighting Joseph Rabotte and Alex Gonzales. When Wlad was 3 years into his pro career, he was fighting Phil Jackson and Lajos Eros. When Nikolay Valuev was 3 years into his career, he was fighting Neil Kirkwood and Darren Fearn. When Vitali was 3 years into his career, he was fighting Obed Sullivan and Ed Mahone. When Ruslan Chagaev was 3 years into his career, he was fighting Everett Martin and val Smith. When Tyson Fury was 3 years into his pro career, he was fighting Neven Pajkic and Martin Rogan.

In conclusion, you completely lack perspective. So does tigermoth87.

To keep things in perspective, none of those men held world titles (that were handed to them) 3 years into thier pro careers. None of them were headlining big PPV shows or being promoted as the best heavyweight on the planet. None of those guys were earning huge purses 3 years into their pro careeres.

Put that sh1t in perspective

[Kalan]

Aj! Canelo! Take your pick!

Alvarez is really not that protected, at least not in a matchmaking sense. He's fought Cotto, Kirkland, Lara, Angulo, Mayweather, and Trout. That is not exactly protection. They may have kept him safe and sound in 2016, but prior to that, it was trial by fire virtually every fight for quite a while. I can think of a lot of fighters who have never even fought 1 opponent as good as Mayweather or Lara.

Canelo is the most protected by far... Cotto, Kirkland, and Angulo were cherry-picks, you dig??? ... The Mayweather fight Canelo did for the money... One judge called it a draw.. For Trout and Lara he had the protection of very corrupt judges and referees... It's kind of like Oscar De La Hoya fighting Felix Sturm and gets a bogus decision.. For his next fight the 2 officials who gave him the Sturm fight show up for the Hopkins fight..

Hopkins said, "Yeah, Yeah, I noticed that.. The 2 judges who gifted Oscar in his last fight are working this fight.. HA HA HA HA HA HA..Is that a joke or what??? ... But I'm not too concerned about it, because I'm going to stop Oscar. He can have all 3 judges in his pocket -- their services won't be required."

[Rob3_142]

You make a valid point, AJ's level of opposition has been appauling.

But for christ sake man, don't use Deontays record as a means of comparison, it's hardly a shining example of taking on the very best of the best

No, it hasn't been appalling. His professional debut was only 3 years ago, and he's a 27-year-old heavyweight. When Deontay Wilder was 3 years into his professional career, he was fighting Daniel Cota, David Long, and Marlon Hayes. When Lucas Browne was 3 years into his pro career, he was fighting Colin Wilson and Paul Butlin. When Luis Ortiz was 3 years into his pro career, he was fighting Joseph Rabotte and Alex Gonzales. When Wlad was 3 years into his pro career, he was fighting Phil Jackson and Lajos Eros. When Nikolay Valuev was 3 years into his career, he was fighting Neil Kirkwood and Darren Fearn. When Vitali was 3 years into his career, he was fighting Obed Sullivan and Ed Mahone. When Ruslan Chagaev was 3 years into his career, he was fighting Everett Martin and val Smith. When Tyson Fury was 3 years into his pro career, he was fighting Neven Pajkic and Martin Rogan.


In conclusion, you completely lack perspective. So does tigermoth87.

To keep things in perspective, none of those men held world titles (that were handed to them) 3 years into thier pro careers. None of them were headlining big PPV shows or being promoted as the best heavyweight on the planet. None of those guys were earning huge purses 3 years into their pro careeres.

Put that sh1t in perspective

Jesus, calm down man. Lackeos makes a very valid point.

What on earth has headlining PPV shows got to do with anything? What has huge purses got to do with anything? Anthony Joshua won the IBF World HW championship 16 fights into his pro-career, if by definition 'cherry picking' is targeting a belt holder, then we have no chance. 17 fights into his pro-career, Joshua is well ahead of his time, and since winning the IBF, has made one defence against a very poor Breazeale. The only reason that Molina is next in line is because Klitchko picked up a calf injury, and Parker moved for the WBO belt. This is a poor replacement, but that is all it is.

At the end of the day, someone 17 fights into their pro-career is still considered a novice, and should be cut a little bit of slack. The fact he is a belt holder means nothing, as it does for everyone else. It just means you essentially control the purses. if we're 12 months on and having the same conversation, then I will be the first to hold my hands up and admit I was wrong.

[caldo2025]

I think that Canelo is the most protected NOW at this very moment but he's not been protected for long. Only since Floyd retired. Prior to Floyd retiring, Canelo was the only one out there fighting quality opposition. Anyone that takes on Lara for chump change should be pardoned from any "protected" label.

But since Floyd retired, Canelo became Boxing's cash cow and Golden Boy had to protect their investment. I'd be my money that Canelo has never run from a fight in his life and this GGG debacle was all caused by Golden Boy. Golden Boy should have been smart enough to avoid Cotto and the temptation of an easy cherry picking world title. They should have known that GGG buzz that would come with a win in that.
Someday, I think that we'll find out that there were some serious battles in the boardroom between Canelo and GB over this fight with GGG.

[davie]

No, it hasn't been appalling. His professional debut was only 3 years ago, and he's a 27-year-old heavyweight. When Deontay Wilder was 3 years into his professional career, he was fighting Daniel Cota, David Long, and Marlon Hayes. When Lucas Browne was 3 years into his pro career, he was fighting Colin Wilson and Paul Butlin. When Luis Ortiz was 3 years into his pro career, he was fighting Joseph Rabotte and Alex Gonzales. When Wlad was 3 years into his pro career, he was fighting Phil Jackson and Lajos Eros. When Nikolay Valuev was 3 years into his career, he was fighting Neil Kirkwood and Darren Fearn. When Vitali was 3 years into his career, he was fighting Obed Sullivan and Ed Mahone. When Ruslan Chagaev was 3 years into his career, he was fighting Everett Martin and val Smith. When Tyson Fury was 3 years into his pro career, he was fighting Neven Pajkic and Martin Rogan.


In conclusion, you completely lack perspective. So does tigermoth87.

To keep things in perspective, none of those men held world titles (that were handed to them) 3 years into thier pro careers. None of them were headlining big PPV shows or being promoted as the best heavyweight on the planet. None of those guys were earning huge purses 3 years into their pro careeres.

Put that sh1t in perspective

Jesus, calm down man. Lackeos makes a very valid point.

What on earth has headlining PPV shows got to do with anything? What has huge purses got to do with anything? Anthony Joshua won the IBF World HW championship 16 fights into his pro-career, if by definition 'cherry picking' is targeting a belt holder, then we have no chance. 17 fights into his pro-career, Joshua is well ahead of his time, and since winning the IBF, has made one defence against a very poor Breazeale. The only reason that Molina is next in line is because Klitchko picked up a calf injury, and Parker moved for the WBO belt. This is a poor replacement, but that is all it is.

At the end of the day, someone 17 fights into their pro-career is still considered a novice, and should be cut a little bit of slack. The fact he is a belt holder means nothing, as it does for everyone else. It just means you essentially control the purses. if we're 12 months on and having the same conversation, then I will be the first to hold my hands up and admit I was wrong.

Calm? I am the personification of tranquility!

I almost fell asleep posting that last post.

Lackeos accused me of lacking perspective, by providing a comparison lacking entirely of perspective.
It isn't just about the stage someone is at in their respective career. how long you've been doing it or how many times they have fought.
It's where you're at right now!

If Joshua is only a 3 year 17 fight novice he shouldn't have been put in to contest a world title.
Because when you win a world title, you should* defend it against world class fighters
If you are not ready to face world class opposition, you should not contest or be the holder of a world title

As for PPV, it has everything to do with it, if he is being sold as the real deal, he should be fighting the big fights or he is fleecing his gullible fanbase (I have never paid for a Joshua PPV)
He is also earning outrageous amounts for a substandard product. In any other line of work, you call that a conman.

He hasn't earned what he has at present and doesn't deserve the opportunities being handed to him.
There are others in the sport, working harder, taking greater risks, not only with their careers but with their health and don't get the chances handed to Joshua

If AJ wanted time to learn on the job he shouldn't have taken the title shot. The opportunity presented itself and I can't blame him for taking it, I can't even blame him for one easy defence, but you need to step up eventually, he decided to take on the responsibility of being (a) heavyweight champion of the world, time to start learning on the job a bit faster I'm afraid



*I know, very few actually do

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Joshua is a kid compared to Canelo...................Canelo with over 40 fight's is the most protected boxing champ on planet earth

[crusader]

To keep things in perspective, none of those men held world titles (that were handed to them) 3 years into thier pro careers. None of them were headlining big PPV shows or being promoted as the best heavyweight on the planet. None of those guys were earning huge purses 3 years into their pro careeres.

Put that sh1t in perspective

Jesus, calm down man. Lackeos makes a very valid point.

What on earth has headlining PPV shows got to do with anything? What has huge purses got to do with anything? Anthony Joshua won the IBF World HW championship 16 fights into his pro-career, if by definition 'cherry picking' is targeting a belt holder, then we have no chance. 17 fights into his pro-career, Joshua is well ahead of his time, and since winning the IBF, has made one defence against a very poor Breazeale. The only reason that Molina is next in line is because Klitchko picked up a calf injury, and Parker moved for the WBO belt. This is a poor replacement, but that is all it is.

At the end of the day, someone 17 fights into their pro-career is still considered a novice, and should be cut a little bit of slack. The fact he is a belt holder means nothing, as it does for everyone else. It just means you essentially control the purses. if we're 12 months on and having the same conversation, then I will be the first to hold my hands up and admit I was wrong.

Calm? I am the personification of tranquility!

I almost fell asleep posting that last post.

Lackeos accused me of lacking perspective, by providing a comparison lacking entirely of perspective.
It isn't just about the stage someone is at in their respective career. how long you've been doing it or how many times they have fought.
It's where you're at right now!

If Joshua is only a 3 year 17 fight novice he shouldn't have been put in to contest a world title.
Because when you win a world title, you should* defend it against world class fighters
If you are not ready to face world class opposition, you should not contest or be the holder of a world title

As for PPV, it has everything to do with it, if he is being sold as the real deal, he should be fighting the big fights or he is fleecing his gullible fanbase (I have never paid for a Joshua PPV)
He is also earning outrageous amounts for a substandard product. In any other line of work, you call that a conman.

He hasn't earned what he has at present and doesn't deserve the opportunities being handed to him.
There are others in the sport, working harder, taking greater risks, not only with their careers but with their health and don't get the chances handed to Joshua

If AJ wanted time to learn on the job he shouldn't have taken the title shot. The opportunity presented itself and I can't blame him for taking it, I can't even blame him for one easy defence, but you need to step up eventually, he decided to take on the responsibility of being (a) heavyweight champion of the world, time to start learning on the job a bit faster I'm afraid



*I know, very few actually do

The pure anger and hatred in your heart are bursting forth from these raging posts of yours

[In the know 85]

Aj! Canelo! Take your pick!

Alvarez is really not that protected, at least not in a matchmaking sense. He's fought Cotto, Kirkland, Lara, Angulo, Mayweather, and Trout. That is not exactly protection. They may have kept him safe and sound in 2016, but prior to that, it was trial by fire virtually every fight for quite a while. I can think of a lot of fighters who have never even fought 1 opponent as good as Mayweather or Lara.

I thought the question was currently protected?? I think he lost to Lara and mayweather, very lucky against Lara, he was basically odds on to fight GGG instead he's fought a little Khan, and smith respectively..

[Rob3_142]

Calm? I am the personification of tranquility!

I almost fell asleep posting that last post.

Lackeos accused me of lacking perspective, by providing a comparison lacking entirely of perspective.
It isn't just about the stage someone is at in their respective career. how long you've been doing it or how many times they have fought.
It's where you're at right now!

He's still only 17 fights into his pro career, and whether you like it or not, he still has progress to make.

If Joshua is only a 3 year 17 fight novice he shouldn't have been put in to contest a world title.
Because when you win a world title, you should* defend it against world class fighters
If you are not ready to face world class opposition, you should not contest or be the holder of a world title

You mean contest a world title which was owned by someone even less deserving? If you can beat the holder, then by definition you are the champion. Aren't you a little bit more concerned that Martin was ever the champion in the first place?

As for PPV, it has everything to do with it, if he is being sold as the real deal, he should be fighting the big fights or he is fleecing his gullible fanbase (I have never paid for a Joshua PPV)
He is also earning outrageous amounts for a substandard product. In any other line of work, you call that a conman.

PPV is about demand. The demand is high, so PPV sells. It's simple economics. Joshua catches a lot of the casual interest, whom are the people largely responsible for the PPV buys. Me and you don't buy the PPV, because as we see it, it's not PPV worthy. But then we're not the 'gullible fanbase'. Wayne Rooney is is earning £250,000 a week for being a sh1t footballer - not fair is it?

He hasn't earned what he has at present and doesn't deserve the opportunities being handed to him.
There are others in the sport, working harder, taking greater risks, not only with their careers but with their health and don't get the chances handed to Joshua.

Since when in this sport do you have to earn anything? How did Charles Martin earn the original shot? How did David Haye and David Price earn their IBF top 15 ranking? How has Shannon Briggs earned his shot at the WBA regular title? Hard work is not a function of success, you either have it or you do not. There's no doubt in my mind that Joshua works hard in the gym, but his path has been paved since day one. Joshua is a financial asset, so Matchroom will invest in his success, like paying million to bring Charles Martin and his world title to the UK.

If AJ wanted time to learn on the job he shouldn't have taken the title shot. The opportunity presented itself and I can't blame him for taking it, I can't even blame him for one easy defence, but you need to step up eventually, he decided to take on the responsibility of being (a) heavyweight champion of the world, time to start learning on the job a bit faster I'm afraid

Is there a (b)?

It was a risk they were willing to take. When you win a world championship, there is a serious case of sink or swim. But even when you do win it, there's guys in the rankings who are not necessarily dangerous that you can still learn against, like Dominic Breazeale. Okay, that's his first easy defence. He tried to tie up deals with Pulev, Hughie, Chisora, significant step ups, but to no avail. But it was okay, because his mandatory Joseph Parker was due anyway. But then what happens? Fury vacates his belts, which changes everyone's perspective. Parker moves onto the WBO, and Klitchko becomes available. So they try to tie up Klitchko, then he gets a calf injury. I would absolutely love to know what you would have done in the same situation?[/quote]

[Kalan]

There's a limited number of qualified Heavyweights who want to get into a ring with the murderous Joshua... Parker didn't want to.

[BitPlayer]

Joshua is a kid compared to Canelo...................Canelo with over 40 fight's is the most protected boxing champ on planet earth

Canelo is younger and has fought way higher calebre of opposition, he has one of the best resumes of any active boxer.

[BitPlayer]

If no one is willing to fight Joshua maybe Hearn needs to start offering his opponents better paychecks. IIRC Chisora and H.Fury have both explicitly said they weren't offered enough.

Remeber he's fighting someone Arreola, someone considered not nearly good enough for Wilder to defend against after thePovetkin fight fell apart, knocked out in round one.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Joshua is a kid compared to Canelo...................Canelo with over 40 fight's is the most protected boxing champ on planet earth

Canelo is younger and has fought way higher calebre of opposition, he has one of the best resumes of any active boxer.

He fights blown up Welterweight's dodge's his biggest challenge's fight's the most beatable World Champion that he can find on the planet earth keeps degrading the Middleweight title like he invented it he is a joke dodged and continue's to evade the BIGGEST fight in boxing right now how the fu.k can someone be more over protected then that Joshua IBF Heavyweight Champion whilest still learning what professional boxing is... look at in year's mate not how old they are how many times have they fought in a professional boxing match your experience and how long you been doing it is the yard stick age has got nothing to do with it.

[Kalan]

Joshua is a kid compared to Canelo...................Canelo with over 40 fight's is the most protected boxing champ on planet earth

Canelo is younger and has fought way higher calebre of opposition, he has one of the best resumes of any active boxer.

Canelo sucks eggs... Liam Smith, James Kirkand, and what's his face Angulo were flagrant cherries... Mayweather was a throw away fight.. He spent nothing on sparring partners and didn't even try to win and barely threw a punch.. and threw a deliberate low blow 20 inches below the belt to the thigh.. That was a money grab... The Lara fight was a set-up.. a robbery.

Is he going to fight any of the tough 154-pounders... Jermall Charlo or Dimitrius Andrade??? ... NO!!!!!

[funso banjo baby]

Wilder
Haye
Pulev
Ortiz

both Furys

hey, theres a pattern here.

[BitPlayer]

Wilder
Haye
Pulev
Ortiz

both Furys

hey, theres a pattern here.

Tyson Fury was a heavy underdog against Wlad, and against Chisora when he was 22. That's something you can't say a lot of fighters have done, like say Joshua.

[ewenhay]

To keep things in perspective, none of those men held world titles (that were handed to them) 3 years into thier pro careers. None of them were headlining big PPV shows or being promoted as the best heavyweight on the planet. None of those guys were earning huge purses 3 years into their pro careeres.

Put that sh1t in perspective

Jesus, calm down man. Lackeos makes a very valid point.

What on earth has headlining PPV shows got to do with anything? What has huge purses got to do with anything? Anthony Joshua won the IBF World HW championship 16 fights into his pro-career, if by definition 'cherry picking' is targeting a belt holder, then we have no chance. 17 fights into his pro-career, Joshua is well ahead of his time, and since winning the IBF, has made one defence against a very poor Breazeale. The only reason that Molina is next in line is because Klitchko picked up a calf injury, and Parker moved for the WBO belt. This is a poor replacement, but that is all it is.

At the end of the day, someone 17 fights into their pro-career is still considered a novice, and should be cut a little bit of slack. The fact he is a belt holder means nothing, as it does for everyone else. It just means you essentially control the purses. if we're 12 months on and having the same conversation, then I will be the first to hold my hands up and admit I was wrong.

Calm? I am the personification of tranquility!

I almost fell asleep posting that last post.

Lackeos accused me of lacking perspective, by providing a comparison lacking entirely of perspective.
It isn't just about the stage someone is at in their respective career. how long you've been doing it or how many times they have fought.
It's where you're at right now!

If Joshua is only a 3 year 17 fight novice he shouldn't have been put in to contest a world title.
Because when you win a world title, you should* defend it against world class fighters
If you are not ready to face world class opposition, you should not contest or be the holder of a world title

As for PPV, it has everything to do with it, if he is being sold as the real deal, he should be fighting the big fights or he is fleecing his gullible fanbase (I have never paid for a Joshua PPV)
He is also earning outrageous amounts for a substandard product. In any other line of work, you call that a conman.

He hasn't earned what he has at present and doesn't deserve the opportunities being handed to him.
There are others in the sport, working harder, taking greater risks, not only with their careers but with their health and don't get the chances handed to Joshua

If AJ wanted time to learn on the job he shouldn't have taken the title shot. The opportunity presented itself and I can't blame him for taking it, I can't even blame him for one easy defence, but you need to step up eventually, he decided to take on the responsibility of being (a) heavyweight champion of the world, time to start learning on the job a bit faster I'm afraid



*I know, very few actually do

Spot on. Everyone's Apprenticeship is different. If you are a belt holder then your Apprenticeship is over and you have to cut it at that level regardless of how many fights you have had or how old you are or how many years you have been a pro. That's how all other sports work, boxing should be no different

[crusader]

If no one is willing to fight Joshua maybe Hearn needs to start offering his opponents better paychecks. IIRC Chisora and H.Fury have both explicitly said they weren't offered enough.

Remeber he's fighting someone Arreola, someone considered not nearly good enough for Wilder to defend against after thePovetkin fight fell apart, knocked out in round one.

And if Josh really is such a massive draw his team should be able to lure good opponents. Being a $$$$$ superstar and being avoided don't fit.

[Rob3_142]

Spot on. Everyone's Apprenticeship is different. If you are a belt holder then your Apprenticeship is over and you have to cut it at that level regardless of how many fights you have had or how old you are or how many years you have been a pro. That's how all other sports work, boxing should be no different

But unfortunately boxing is, as suggested by the title of this thread.

[ewenhay]

Spot on. Everyone's Apprenticeship is different. If you are a belt holder then your Apprenticeship is over and you have to cut it at that level regardless of how many fights you have had or how old you are or how many years you have been a pro. That's how all other sports work, boxing should be no different

But unfortunately boxing is, as suggested by the title of this thread.

We shouldn't accept something as right when it is clearly wrong. For as long as we are mug punters and pay our money there's no incentive for promoters or sanctioning bodies to change. Stop watching or attending joke fights at world title level and they will quickly get the message

[Rob3_142]

Spot on. Everyone's Apprenticeship is different. If you are a belt holder then your Apprenticeship is over and you have to cut it at that level regardless of how many fights you have had or how old you are or how many years you have been a pro. That's how all other sports work, boxing should be no different

But unfortunately boxing is, as suggested by the title of this thread.

We shouldn't accept something as right when it is clearly wrong. For as long as we are mug punters and pay our money there's no incentive for promoters or sanctioning bodies to change. Stop watching or attending joke fights at world title level and they will quickly get the message

Yeah but let's be honest here, it will never happen. You might get that kind of commitment from die hards, but the casual fans are loving it! The only way to change it is at the sanctioning body level, but it's so corrupt and money saturated, that won't change either. I would suggest go enjoy another sport, cause it's only going to get worse.

[ewenhay]

But unfortunately boxing is, as suggested by the title of this thread.

We shouldn't accept something as right when it is clearly wrong. For as long as we are mug punters and pay our money there's no incentive for promoters or sanctioning bodies to change. Stop watching or attending joke fights at world title level and they will quickly get the message

Yeah but let's be honest here, it will never happen. You might get that kind of commitment from die hards, but the casual fans are loving it! The only way to change it is at the sanctioning body level, but it's so corrupt and money saturated, that won't change either. I would suggest go enjoy another sport, cause it's only going to get worse.

It has definitely got worse that's for sure. In the 40 years I have been watching boxing it has always been corrupt and there have always been mismatches in world title defences but not at the sustained level we see nowadays

[BitPlayer]

http://www.joe.co.uk/sport/tyson-furys- ... mber/98324