That isn't clear? David is better than any opponent is expect Ortiz to fight in 3 weeks. He was the only suggestion from anyone that was conceivable to me.Rob3_142 wrote:???SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'd be surprised if it was someone as good as Allen. I'm skeptical he fights, but I'd look more at the guys Allen has beaten.lefty wrote:I agree with Saad. It probably will be Allen. He's already said he wants the fight- he's pretty cheap and he's pretty durable but also more of a fighter than a boxer so will give it a good go.
Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
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SaadOffTheDeck
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fightfan95
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Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
Maybe Charr? I think he boxed in September for the WBA International Title.
I would say it might be between; Charr, Guillermo Jones or Andrey Fedosov - all ranked in the top 15 by WBA.
That's if he will still be fighting WBA route
I would say it might be between; Charr, Guillermo Jones or Andrey Fedosov - all ranked in the top 15 by WBA.
That's if he will still be fighting WBA route
Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
Talking about Guillermo jones- how the fornicate that fornicator fought at welterweight I'll never know (well i do know; the use of diuretics but still) He looked absolutely huge next to Lebedev at cruiserweight. He must have been about 220 on the night. The cheating pudendum nearly killed Lebedev aswell.
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Killer Blow
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Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
You think Lebedev is any better? He looks better than ever at 37 years of age.lefty wrote:Talking about Guillermo jones- how the eff that fornicator fought at welterweight I'll never know (well i do know; the use of diuretics but still) He looked absolutely huge next to Lebedev at cruiserweight. He must have been about 220 on the night. The cheating pudendum nearly killed Lebedev aswell.
Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
I don't think he looks better personally. He just looks the same to me. He just hasn't had a detoriation as of yet. Could be due to the use of PED's but it could also be his individual genetics and he's a bit of a late bloomer. Froch's best years went well into his 30's.Killer Blow wrote:You think Lebedev is any better? He looks better than ever at 37 years of age.lefty wrote:Talking about Guillermo jones- how the eff that fornicator fought at welterweight I'll never know (well i do know; the use of diuretics but still) He looked absolutely huge next to Lebedev at cruiserweight. He must have been about 220 on the night. The cheating pudendum nearly killed Lebedev aswell.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
The wba paper title is gone.fightfan95 wrote:Maybe Charr? I think he boxed in September for the WBA International Title.
I would say it might be between; Charr, Guillermo Jones or Andrey Fedosov - all ranked in the top 15 by WBA.
That's if he will still be fighting WBA route
Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
I haven't mentioned Mike Perez, is he still active ?
It would be very interesting battle of Cubans, supposing Perez is fit and willing to fight.
It would be very interesting battle of Cubans, supposing Perez is fit and willing to fight.
Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
Think Nathan cleverly turned pro at welter also !lefty wrote:Talking about Guillermo jones- how the eff that fornicator fought at welterweight I'll never know (well i do know; the use of diuretics but still) He looked absolutely huge next to Lebedev at cruiserweight. He must have been about 220 on the night. The cheating pudendum nearly killed Lebedev aswell.
Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
David Price? I suppose Allen is a better opponent than him too?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:That isn't clear? David is better than any opponent is expect Ortiz to fight in 3 weeks. He was the only suggestion from anyone that was conceivable to me.Rob3_142 wrote:???SaadOffTheDeck wrote: I'd be surprised if it was someone as good as Allen. I'm skeptical he fights, but I'd look more at the guys Allen has beaten.
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Marlo Stanfield
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Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
Allen is absolute dog shitSaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'd be surprised if it was someone as good as Allen. I'm skeptical he fights, but I'd look more at the guys Allen has beaten.lefty wrote:I agree with Saad. It probably will be Allen. He's already said he wants the fight- he's pretty cheap and he's pretty durable but also more of a fighter than a boxer so will give it a good go.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
OkMarlo Stanfield wrote:Allen is absolute dog pooSaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'd be surprised if it was someone as good as Allen. I'm skeptical he fights, but I'd look more at the guys Allen has beaten.lefty wrote:I agree with Saad. It probably will be Allen. He's already said he wants the fight- he's pretty cheap and he's pretty durable but also more of a fighter than a boxer so will give it a good go.
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bigman1968
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Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
So he fit to the job!!!SaadOffTheDeck wrote:OkMarlo Stanfield wrote:Allen is absolute dog pooSaadOffTheDeck wrote: I'd be surprised if it was someone as good as Allen. I'm skeptical he fights, but I'd look more at the guys Allen has beaten.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
Lol, he won't be facing a good opponent. It's a mid undercard fight in 3 weeks!Rob3_142 wrote:David Price? I suppose Allen is a better opponent than him too?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:That isn't clear? David is better than any opponent is expect Ortiz to fight in 3 weeks. He was the only suggestion from anyone that was conceivable to me.Rob3_142 wrote:
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Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
You don't think Price will take the fight at short notice? He's in training and trying to get a fight.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lol, he won't be facing a good opponent. It's a mid undercard fight in 3 weeks!Rob3_142 wrote:David Price? I suppose Allen is a better opponent than him too?SaadOffTheDeck wrote: That isn't clear? David is better than any opponent is expect Ortiz to fight in 3 weeks. He was the only suggestion from anyone that was conceivable to me.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
No chance. There's not enough money left in the budget for that fight. It's a stay busy fight.Rob3_142 wrote:You don't think Price will take the fight at short notice? He's in training and trying to get a fight.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lol, he won't be facing a good opponent. It's a mid undercard fight in 3 weeks!Rob3_142 wrote:
David Price? I suppose Allen is a better opponent than him too?
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
He might, hearn wouldn't wedge a fight like that midcard. As I've said, I doubt Ortiz is on the card at all. If he is, it will be a complete squash match.Rob3_142 wrote:You don't think Price will take the fight at short notice? He's in training and trying to get a fight.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Lol, he won't be facing a good opponent. It's a mid undercard fight in 3 weeks!Rob3_142 wrote:
David Price? I suppose Allen is a better opponent than him too?
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
keithmoonhangover wrote:No chance. There's not enough money left in the budget for that fight. It's a stay busy fight.Rob3_142 wrote:You don't think Price will take the fight at short notice? He's in training and trying to get a fight.SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Lol, he won't be facing a good opponent. It's a mid undercard fight in 3 weeks!
Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
Allen is apparently still recovering from a stupendous beating at the hands of Dillian Whyte... I see nothing scheduled for him.Rob3_142 wrote:???SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'd be surprised if it was someone as good as Allen. I'm skeptical he fights, but I'd look more at the guys Allen has beaten.lefty wrote:I agree with Saad. It probably will be Allen. He's already said he wants the fight- he's pretty cheap and he's pretty durable but also more of a fighter than a boxer so will give it a good go.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
Eddie Hearn will inevitably try his upmost to repopulate the 'King Kong' hype train by matchmaking him against a stationary target on the 10th December.ValMar wrote:Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
I know this fight won't happen, but Ortiz could encounter real problems if he had to face a big punching skilful mover like David Haye.
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The fight is 3 weeks away. It'll be down the undercard on a show that will sell out regardless of who he fights and will do good PPV numbers regardless of who he fights. Hearn won't spend any money on an opponent when he doesn't need to.
A few people have said Dave Allen, and while I'm fairly certain Allen has the balls to take it, I don't think that makes sense for Hearn either. Allen is pretty much made for Ortiz and would get blasted out early, which would make Whyte's win look a hell of a lot less impressive and make the inevitable AJ-Whyte rematch a harder sell.
A few people have said Dave Allen, and while I'm fairly certain Allen has the balls to take it, I don't think that makes sense for Hearn either. Allen is pretty much made for Ortiz and would get blasted out early, which would make Whyte's win look a hell of a lot less impressive and make the inevitable AJ-Whyte rematch a harder sell.
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watsupdoc87
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Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
I'm guessing price. Easy ko exposure for Ortiz and price can still day he's undefeated to non led users. And by absolute fluke he wins the mega ppv an v price 
Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
Sherman Williams
Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
Sherman Williams
Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
Are you serious ? It would be too much........Lennox wrote:Sherman Williams
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Opponent for Ortiz, December, 10
Best suggestion so far, though Sherman is durable.