2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport... I'm done with boxing after this farce!
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Andrew Kearney
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2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport... I'm done with boxing after this farce!
I was watching the Darleys Perez - Maurice Hooker fight which immediately preceeded the main event. It seemed like the foreigner Perez won close to every round, yet the fight was ruled a draw. One judge even managed to score it 97-93 Hooker. A truly astonishingly bad scorecard to put in context British Feed Sky Sports had it 100-91 Perez (so that judge scored almost every round opposite), HBO also had Perez winning easily. Yet the fight is a draw. One of the worst robberies Ive seen in years of watching the sport. Hooker is American and tied to Roc Nation the promoter so that explains the robbery. Clearly, the decision was political and biased. There is no other explanation.
Then the main event. Ward gets put on his butt in round 2, Kovalev also outlands him significantly on compubox, Kovalev lands the harder more quality shots which is supposed to be the only criteria for judging a fight. HBO and Sky Sports both have Kovalev winning then the phony American judges give the fight to Ward. Obviously the fact that Ward is American and better connected explains the decision. More homecooking from the crooked American judges, gifting the fight to Ward because he is American and better connected than Kovalev.
2 Robberies on the same card. Some of the worst decisions Ive ever seen.
2 Foreigners robbed by crooked American judges.
AND ITS THE SAME STORY EVERY WEEK. SH1TTY DECISIONS EVERY WEEKEND. JUDGES ROBBING GUYS EVERY WEEKEND. Boxing is a dirty dirty sport.
You know after this I dont even give a sh1t about boxing anymore. Ive been a life long fan of the sport but theres only so much crap you want to take. It seems judges are more often phony and crooked than good. Everything is political in boxing nowadays.
Boxing = Sh1t sport
I mean I've been watching boxing my whole life and there are literally hundreds of examples of sh1t decisions, usually against foreigners in the USA like tonight. Foreigners need to stop fighting in the USA... You will not get a decision. And as a boxing fan Ive come to expect robberies as the norm. Not any more tho.
Boxing is a dying sport and its sh1t. Im out, never following this sport again.
Then the main event. Ward gets put on his butt in round 2, Kovalev also outlands him significantly on compubox, Kovalev lands the harder more quality shots which is supposed to be the only criteria for judging a fight. HBO and Sky Sports both have Kovalev winning then the phony American judges give the fight to Ward. Obviously the fact that Ward is American and better connected explains the decision. More homecooking from the crooked American judges, gifting the fight to Ward because he is American and better connected than Kovalev.
2 Robberies on the same card. Some of the worst decisions Ive ever seen.
2 Foreigners robbed by crooked American judges.
AND ITS THE SAME STORY EVERY WEEK. SH1TTY DECISIONS EVERY WEEKEND. JUDGES ROBBING GUYS EVERY WEEKEND. Boxing is a dirty dirty sport.
You know after this I dont even give a sh1t about boxing anymore. Ive been a life long fan of the sport but theres only so much crap you want to take. It seems judges are more often phony and crooked than good. Everything is political in boxing nowadays.
Boxing = Sh1t sport
I mean I've been watching boxing my whole life and there are literally hundreds of examples of sh1t decisions, usually against foreigners in the USA like tonight. Foreigners need to stop fighting in the USA... You will not get a decision. And as a boxing fan Ive come to expect robberies as the norm. Not any more tho.
Boxing is a dying sport and its sh1t. Im out, never following this sport again.
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thomasjkelley
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Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
I have to admit, I'm ashamed at the moment. You don't rob a man like that. Disgraceful.
Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
A guide on how to score a boxing round in the modern era:
Step 1:
10 points to the guy who runs, fouls, holds and grabs.
9 points to the guy who takes the front foot and lands harder shots.
Step 2:
Claim you're a purist.
Step 1:
10 points to the guy who runs, fouls, holds and grabs.
9 points to the guy who takes the front foot and lands harder shots.
Step 2:
Claim you're a purist.
Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
The problem with claiming you're a purist in a fight involving Ward is that he does the opposite to what purists are supposed to enjoy.Ricky_ wrote:A guide on how to score a boxing round in the modern era:
Step 1:
10 points to the guy who runs, fouls, holds and grabs.
9 points to the guy who takes the front foot and lands harder shots.
Step 2:
Claim you're a purist.
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Andrew Kearney
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Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
Yea I mean, Im literally finished watching this sport. Its too political. Its too sh1t. Its a dying sport and with sh1t decisions like this you see why.
Wont be following boxing anymore. Seen enough sh1t. Just not interested anymore. Its a dying sport.
Oh Ill guarantee one more thing... The sport gained no new fans tonight. Just lost them.
Boxing = Sh1t
Wont be following boxing anymore. Seen enough sh1t. Just not interested anymore. Its a dying sport.
Oh Ill guarantee one more thing... The sport gained no new fans tonight. Just lost them.
Boxing = Sh1t
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jezzamundo
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Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
I only saw the main event - it was a fantastic and very close fight that could fairly be scored for either fighter.
I agree that boxing isn't what it should be and there are frequent robberies, but this wasn't one of them.
I agree that boxing isn't what it should be and there are frequent robberies, but this wasn't one of them.
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jezzamundo
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Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
It was a far better fight and (IMO) better judged than Mayweather-Pacquiao. It's just a shame that fights like these are so few and far between.Andrew Kearney wrote:Yea I mean, Im literally finished watching this sport. Its too political. Its too sh1t. Its a dying sport and with sh1t decisions like this you see why.
Wont be following boxing anymore. Seen enough sh1t. Just not interested anymore. Its a dying sport.
Oh Ill guarantee one more thing... The sport gained no new fans tonight. Just lost them.
Boxing = Sh1t
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tigermoth87
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Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
I agree. If anything the Perez robbery was more blatant and disgusting. The judges might as well as swiped the keys to Perez's car whilst they were at it.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
Stop crying! Even when fights are close, there usually has to be a winner and the S.O.G. was deemed a worthy winner by many non-HBO affiliated non-American boxing journalists.
Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
totaly with you andrew.....such a great fight, but the outcome leaves a very bad taste
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Andrew Kearney
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Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
Like sports isn't supposed to be about politics or who knows who.
They should have judged the fcuking fight on landed punches. Kov wins easy on that parameter. Removes the subjective element.
In any case I dont care. Im finished watching this sport. Its sh1t. No wonder its a dying sport and fans dont fcuking care anymore. Cause its sh1t.
They should have judged the fcuking fight on landed punches. Kov wins easy on that parameter. Removes the subjective element.
In any case I dont care. Im finished watching this sport. Its sh1t. No wonder its a dying sport and fans dont fcuking care anymore. Cause its sh1t.
Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
Enlightened-One wrote:Stop crying! Even when fights are close, there usually has to be a winner and the S.O.G. was deemed a worthy winner by many non-HBO affiliated non-American boxing journalists.
Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
It took you this long to realize Boxing is a sh*t sport. Boxing is or was a sh*t sport along time ago.Andrew Kearney wrote:Yea I mean, Im literally finished watching this sport. Its too political. Its too sh1t. Its a dying sport and with sh1t decisions like this you see why.
Wont be following boxing anymore. Seen enough sh1t. Just not interested anymore. Its a dying sport.
Oh Ill guarantee one more thing... The sport gained no new fans tonight. Just lost them.
Boxing = Sh1t
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Freedom2013
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Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
I agree.Andrew Kearney wrote:2 Robberies on the same card. Some of the worst decisions Ive ever seen.
2 Foreigners robbed by crooked American judges.
You know after this I dont even give a sh1t about boxing anymore. Ive been a life long fan of the sport but theres only so much crap to take. It seems judges are more often phony and crooked than good. Everything is political in boxing nowadays.
And I feel like a fool for buying PPVs and devoting so much time over the past ten years to these internet forums. I won't be posting as much in the future.
Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
When Robert Byrd was named referee, I knew it was trouble for Kovalev... Ward got away with illegal head-work all night... It's illegal to come in with your noggin down like that.. Kovalev neutralized it for the most part, but Ward was allowed to charge with his head low all night.. Byrd and Bayless are the 2 most biased referees in Boxing...
Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
It would of been a lot worse if Reiss was the Ref.Kalan wrote:When Robert Byrd was named referee, I knew it was trouble for Kovalev... Ward got away with illegal head-work all night... It's illegal to come in with your noggin down like that.. Kovalev neutralized it for the most part, but Ward was allowed to charge with his head low all night.. Byrd and Bayless are the 2 most biased referees in Boxing...
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Enlightened-One
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Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
You're either a child or a fair weather fan, but either way... good luck on your future endeavours.Andrew Kearney wrote:Like sports isn't supposed to be about politics or who knows who.
They should have judged the fcuking fight on landed punches. Kov wins easy on that parameter. Removes the subjective element.
In any case I dont care. Im finished watching this sport. Its sh1t. No wonder its a dying sport and fans dont fcuking care anymore. Cause its sh1t.
Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
Yall mustve ferg'otKeko wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:Stop crying! Even when fights are close, there usually has to be a winner and the S.O.G. was deemed a worthy winner by many non-HBO affiliated non-American boxing journalists.
Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
Haven't seen this yet but I know I was concerned when there were 3 American judges and an American ref so the fact that there is a controversial decision is not surprising. One thing I have never liked about Ward is that he is too much of a homer. I'd like to see him in a big fight in Europe with nation-neutral officiating. Nonetheless, I'll reserve judgment until I see this in its entirety.
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Andrew Kearney
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Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
That decision tonight was purely political. Ward won cause he's American and is in tight with Roc Nation. The same reason Hooker got a draw when Perez beat him every round.
Boxing is killing itself, in fact its already dead. 7 Million combined salary between the top2 in the sport? Pathetic.
Its a sh1t sport and tonight is the last time Im tuning in.
Every night its the same story... robberies, biased judges, they honestly get the fcuking decision wrong more than they get it right. Whats the point in following a sport like that?
Sh1t sport, heading down the toilet.
Boxing is killing itself, in fact its already dead. 7 Million combined salary between the top2 in the sport? Pathetic.
Its a sh1t sport and tonight is the last time Im tuning in.
Every night its the same story... robberies, biased judges, they honestly get the fcuking decision wrong more than they get it right. Whats the point in following a sport like that?
Sh1t sport, heading down the toilet.
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Dancin' Dan
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Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport... I'm done with boxing after this farce!
I am certainly not stopping my love of boxing. Been a big part of my life. Yes Krusher was robbed tonight in my book. We have work to do. But the worst robbery ever was Whitaker Chavez. Whitaker won 120-108 in my book. Called a draw. It happens. Yeah, how can Byrd be allowed to judge anything anymore. Crooked for years. Make a rematch happen fans!
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Andrew Kearney
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Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport
Yep it is disgraceful. And the judges can just get away with it.thomasjkelley wrote:I have to admit, I'm ashamed at the moment. You don't rob a man like that. Disgraceful.
Boxing is a seriously dirty sport, maybe thats why its also a dead sport.
I know I really don't care anymore. It's sh1t.
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Andrew Kearney
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Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport... I'm done with boxing after this farce!
Honestly not even interested in a rematch after tonight.Dancin' Dan wrote:I am certainly not stopping my love of boxing. Been a big part of my life. Yes Krusher was robbed tonight in my book. We have work to do. But the worst robbery ever was Whitaker Chavez. Whitaker won 120-108 in my book. Called a draw. It happens. Yeah, how can Byrd be allowed to judge anything anymore. Crooked for years. Make a rematch happen fans!
Just want to see this sport die, like it should, and is doing.
Sh1t sport, now I understand why no one gives a fcuk about this sport anymore. Its sh1t.
Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport... I'm done with boxing after this farce!
STFU with your bullshit nationalistic whining
Re: 2 Robberies of foreigners on the HBO PPV... a new low for the sport... I'm done with boxing after this farce!
Really feel sorry for Perez he won that fight quite easily on my card.
Far as I'm concerned Hooker is now worth absolutely nothing as it's clear his people have the judges in his back pocket.
Congratulations Hooker you just got blacklisted and you will not be respected and most of your fights are now duds and your record is phoney.
I won't watch Hooker again or take his fights seriously he's finished.
Far as I'm concerned Hooker is now worth absolutely nothing as it's clear his people have the judges in his back pocket.
Congratulations Hooker you just got blacklisted and you will not be respected and most of your fights are now duds and your record is phoney.
I won't watch Hooker again or take his fights seriously he's finished.