You have been brainwashed by silly action movies where Russians are portrayed as bad guys.diddy wrote:This guy is seriously trying to convince there's no evidence of Russia being as corrupt as it gets? I've officially seen it all now. This dude probably also believes in flying dragons and unicorns. From an athletics perspective Russia is basically run by the mafia. The doping spectacle from this year's Olympics was just another drop in the bucket.
Russians are great people, but it's hard to disagree with what Diddy is saying. The country is effectively a mafia state. I struggle to believe how anyone could not see that.Freedom2013 wrote:You have been brainwashed by silly action movies where Russians are portrayed as bad guys.diddy wrote:This guy is seriously trying to convince there's no evidence of Russia being as corrupt as it gets? I've officially seen it all now. This dude probably also believes in flying dragons and unicorns. From an athletics perspective Russia is basically run by the mafia. The doping spectacle from this year's Olympics was just another drop in the bucket.
Yes, with the judges being fair to Kovalev by awarding the fight to Ward by only a one point margin.Jip wrote:u got your answer
x2x wrote:I'm sure they won't be but I'm also quite sure that Kovalev won't leave it up to the discretion of their honest judges, and even their honest referee, try as he might, won't be able to interfere enough to save the day.
Only a complete f*cking moron would not agree that Russia is essentially a mafia state. Any argument to the contrary is pure delusion or ignorance.TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Russians are great people, but it's hard to disagree with what Diddy is saying. The country is effectively a mafia state. I struggle to believe how anyone could not see that.Freedom2013 wrote:You have been brainwashed by silly action movies where Russians are portrayed as bad guys.diddy wrote:This guy is seriously trying to convince there's no evidence of Russia being as corrupt as it gets? I've officially seen it all now. This dude probably also believes in flying dragons and unicorns. From an athletics perspective Russia is basically run by the mafia. The doping spectacle from this year's Olympics was just another drop in the bucket.
Lederman always has a preference for the guy going forwards and throwing more punches, regardless of how effective he is. I thought he was overly generous to Kovalev, not because of any kind of bias, but because of how he sees fights. Kellerman, I thought, was excellent as per usual. The only time I've ever really disagreed with Kellerman was in the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight - I had it far closer than he did.Freedom2013 wrote:Robbery, EXACTLY what I expected.
Lederman's 116-111 score was correct, props to him.
Kellerman was a disgrace as usual, showering loving praise on Ward during the fight.
Byrd allowed Ward to clamp grapple and wrestle, and he was yelling at Kovalev every time Ward fouled.
My exact conclusion.jezzamundo wrote:While a split decision may have been fairer, it's quite telling that in such a close fight, all three scorecards read the same. I think the referee and the judges all did a good job in this fight.
Lies.diddy wrote:Only a complete f*cking moron would not agree that Russia is essentially a mafia state. Any argument to the contrary is pure delusion or ignorance.
diddy wrote: Only a complete f*cking moron would not agree that Russia is essentially a mafia state. Any argument to the contrary is pure delusion or ignorance.
RoyRJ wrote:We know about the nevada comission, this is not the first and it's not gonna be the last ROBBERY in boxing. Kovalev was too naive to fight a american fighter in the USA with all judges being american too.
...I don't know if you realise it or not, but you do rather a disservice to the russian boxing fans. The officiating was poor in Grozny last time and I hope it's not gonna happen again...x2x wrote: I would like to see a rematch evened out - in Grozny in Chechnya with all Russian judges and a Russian referee.
Seriously? They did a good job giving round 10 to Ward? What is an awful job then?BAD INTENTIONS wrote:My exact conclusion.jezzamundo wrote:While a split decision may have been fairer, it's quite telling that in such a close fight, all three scorecards read the same. I think the referee and the judges all did a good job in this fight.
People who follow Lederman's scoring model always think these types of fights are robberies.
ThanksFreedom2013 wrote:Good video.
They made the wrong call in one round out of 12 - I think that's a pretty good job overall.boxing_rocks wrote:Seriously? They did a good job giving round 10 to Ward? What is an awful job then?BAD INTENTIONS wrote:My exact conclusion.jezzamundo wrote:While a split decision may have been fairer, it's quite telling that in such a close fight, all three scorecards read the same. I think the referee and the judges all did a good job in this fight.
People who follow Lederman's scoring model always think these types of fights are robberies.
No, they gave all close rounds to Ward plus the one he lost. They were clearly biased.jezzamundo wrote:They made the wrong call in one round out of 12 - I think that's a pretty good job overall.boxing_rocks wrote:Seriously? They did a good job giving round 10 to Ward? What is an awful job then?BAD INTENTIONS wrote: My exact conclusion.
People who follow Lederman's scoring model always think these types of fights are robberies.
I disagree - the 3rd, 4th and 6th were all swing rounds they scored for Kovalev. Personally I thought Ward edged the 3rd.boxing_rocks wrote:No, they gave all close rounds to Ward plus the one he lost. They were clearly biased.jezzamundo wrote:They made the wrong call in one round out of 12 - I think that's a pretty good job overall.boxing_rocks wrote:
Seriously? They did a good job giving round 10 to Ward? What is an awful job then?
