Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
Honestly, I can not.........After Kovalev-Ward I simply can not imagine that. So, I wouldn't like to see this match happen. Nothing against Canelo, he is brave and devoted sportsman, but ODLH has judges in his pocket. I've been watching boxing since 1970, and I'm so sad because of growing corruption.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
The Kovalev-Ward bout was scored correctly and so will GGG-Canelo.
Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
I don't want to be misunderstood, I don't think Ward's win is robbery, it was close (I have 5 rounds for Kovalev, 4 for Ward with 3 even, but think that Kovalev would win on neutral place, with neutral judges)...........Considering Canelo's victory over Lara very questionable, and his connection with ODLH, I am sure that he would be favoured by judges........And there is no way to be convinced the opposite.......Enlightened-One wrote:The Kovalev-Ward bout was scored correctly and so will GGG-Canelo.
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jezzamundo
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Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
I agree with the first part of your statement, but I worry greatly about the second half. You have to be blind to not recognise that Canelo has received special treatment from judges on multiple occasions. Hopefully I'm right and GGG will stop him, so the judges won't be needed.Enlightened-One wrote:The Kovalev-Ward bout was scored correctly and so will GGG-Canelo.
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Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
I'm not sure whether Canelo will receive preferential treatment from the judges, since I can only recall the CJ Ross dodgy scoring. However, as the bigger PPV draw and the younger fighter (meaning that he has a greater capacity to earn money), I expect the HBO commentary team to strongly favour Canelo when they eventually score his bout against GGG.jezzamundo wrote:I agree with the first part of your statement, but I worry greatly about the second half. You have to be blind to not recognise that Canelo has received special treatment from judges on multiple occasions. Hopefully I'm right and GGG will stop him, so the judges won't be needed.Enlightened-One wrote:The Kovalev-Ward bout was scored correctly and so will GGG-Canelo.
HBO-bias, causes casual fight fan bias, resulting in false cries of "robbery" for evenly-contested fights.
Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
Let me remind you of Mayweather-Canelo fight. One judge scored it draw (against Mayweather, one of the greatest American champions). If Canalo's father was on the judge's place, he wouldn't score it even. Am I right ? What should we expect against GGG, Kazakhstan's fighter ?Enlightened-One wrote:I'm not sure whether Canelo will receive preferential treatment from the judges, since I can only recall the CJ Ross dodgy scoring. However, as the bigger PPV draw and the younger fighter (meaning that he has a greater capacity to earn money), I expect the HBO commentary team to strongly favour Canelo when they eventually score his bout against GGG.jezzamundo wrote:I agree with the first part of your statement, but I worry greatly about the second half. You have to be blind to not recognise that Canelo has received special treatment from judges on multiple occasions. Hopefully I'm right and GGG will stop him, so the judges won't be needed.Enlightened-One wrote:The Kovalev-Ward bout was scored correctly and so will GGG-Canelo.
HBO-bias, causes casual fight fan bias, resulting in false cries of "robbery" for evenly-contested fights.
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Boxerbeetle
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Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
Canelo would not see the final round anyway.
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jezzamundo
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Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
All of the Trout scorecards were generous to Canelo, the 117-110 scorecard in particular. I had it 114-113 to Canelo, but could see it close to Trout.Enlightened-One wrote:I'm not sure whether Canelo will receive preferential treatment from the judges, since I can only recall the CJ Ross dodgy scoring. However, as the bigger PPV draw and the younger fighter (meaning that he has a greater capacity to earn money), I expect the HBO commentary team to strongly favour Canelo when they eventually score his bout against GGG.jezzamundo wrote:I agree with the first part of your statement, but I worry greatly about the second half. You have to be blind to not recognise that Canelo has received special treatment from judges on multiple occasions. Hopefully I'm right and GGG will stop him, so the judges won't be needed.Enlightened-One wrote:The Kovalev-Ward bout was scored correctly and so will GGG-Canelo.
HBO-bias, causes casual fight fan bias, resulting in false cries of "robbery" for evenly-contested fights.
The Lara fight was close and could have gone either way. I had it a draw. The 117-111 scorecard is very generous to Canelo.
Cotto-Canelo was a close, competitive fight that all three judges had wide to Canelo, one of whom had it a ridiculous 119-109.
Two of the three judges in the Khan fight had Canelo ahead prior to the stoppage, while most observers agree that Khan won 3 or 4 of the 5 completed rounds.
All that said, Canelo has never been involved in a robbery - he's just gotten the benefit of the doubt time and time again.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
Read what I've written and you'll surely realise that you don't have to remind me of anything. If you don't understand certain aspects of my post, then ask me to clarify myself.ValMar wrote:Let me remind you of Mayweather-Canelo fight. One judge scored it draw (against Mayweather, one of the greatest American champions). If Canalo's father was on the judge's place, he wouldn't score it even. Am I right ? What should we expect against GGG, Kazakhstan's fighter ?Enlightened-One wrote:I'm not sure whether Canelo will receive preferential treatment from the judges, since I can only recall the CJ Ross dodgy scoring. However, as the bigger PPV draw and the younger fighter (meaning that he has a greater capacity to earn money), I expect the HBO commentary team to strongly favour Canelo when they eventually score his bout against GGG.jezzamundo wrote:
I agree with the first part of your statement, but I worry greatly about the second half. You have to be blind to not recognise that Canelo has received special treatment from judges on multiple occasions. Hopefully I'm right and GGG will stop him, so the judges won't be needed.
HBO-bias, causes casual fight fan bias, resulting in false cries of "robbery" for evenly-contested fights.
Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
I don't agree with you only about Cotto's case, for me Canelo won clearly that fight.jezzamundo wrote:All of the Trout scorecards were generous to Canelo, the 117-110 scorecard in particular. I had it 114-113 to Canelo, but could see it close to Trout.Enlightened-One wrote:I'm not sure whether Canelo will receive preferential treatment from the judges, since I can only recall the CJ Ross dodgy scoring. However, as the bigger PPV draw and the younger fighter (meaning that he has a greater capacity to earn money), I expect the HBO commentary team to strongly favour Canelo when they eventually score his bout against GGG.jezzamundo wrote:
I agree with the first part of your statement, but I worry greatly about the second half. You have to be blind to not recognise that Canelo has received special treatment from judges on multiple occasions. Hopefully I'm right and GGG will stop him, so the judges won't be needed.
HBO-bias, causes casual fight fan bias, resulting in false cries of "robbery" for evenly-contested fights.
The Lara fight was close and could have gone either way. I had it a draw. The 117-111 scorecard is very generous to Canelo.
Cotto-Canelo was a close, competitive fight that all three judges had wide to Canelo, one of whom had it a ridiculous 119-109.
Two of the three judges in the Khan fight had Canelo ahead prior to the stoppage, while most observers agree that Khan won 3 or 4 of the 5 completed rounds.
All that said, Canelo has never been involved in a robbery - he's just gotten the benefit of the doubt time and time again.
Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
Honestly, how did you score Mayweather-Canelo, and Lara-Canelo ?Enlightened-One wrote:Read what I've written and you'll surely realise that you don't have to remind me of anything. If you don't understand certain aspects of my post, then ask me to clarify myself.ValMar wrote:Let me remind you of Mayweather-Canelo fight. One judge scored it draw (against Mayweather, one of the greatest American champions). If Canalo's father was on the judge's place, he wouldn't score it even. Am I right ? What should we expect against GGG, Kazakhstan's fighter ?Enlightened-One wrote: I'm not sure whether Canelo will receive preferential treatment from the judges, since I can only recall the CJ Ross dodgy scoring. However, as the bigger PPV draw and the younger fighter (meaning that he has a greater capacity to earn money), I expect the HBO commentary team to strongly favour Canelo when they eventually score his bout against GGG.
HBO-bias, causes casual fight fan bias, resulting in false cries of "robbery" for evenly-contested fights.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
I'll think about answering that question when you explain the reason why you felt compelled to remind me of the Canelo-Mayweather bout after I'd mentioned CJ Ross.ValMar wrote:Honestly, how did you score Mayweather-Canelo, and Lara-Canelo ?Enlightened-One wrote:Read what I've written and you'll surely realise that you don't have to remind me of anything. If you don't understand certain aspects of my post, then ask me to clarify myself.ValMar wrote:
Let me remind you of Mayweather-Canelo fight. One judge scored it draw (against Mayweather, one of the greatest American champions). If Canalo's father was on the judge's place, he wouldn't score it even. Am I right ? What should we expect against GGG, Kazakhstan's fighter ?
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jezzamundo
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Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
I had it 115-113 to Canelo, The Guardian had it the same. Do you really think the scorecards (117-111, 118-110 and 119-109) were reflective of the action in the fight? I thought HBO's commentary was very biased for that fight.ValMar wrote:I don't agree with you only about Cotto's case, for me Canelo won clearly that fight.jezzamundo wrote:All of the Trout scorecards were generous to Canelo, the 117-110 scorecard in particular. I had it 114-113 to Canelo, but could see it close to Trout.Enlightened-One wrote: I'm not sure whether Canelo will receive preferential treatment from the judges, since I can only recall the CJ Ross dodgy scoring. However, as the bigger PPV draw and the younger fighter (meaning that he has a greater capacity to earn money), I expect the HBO commentary team to strongly favour Canelo when they eventually score his bout against GGG.
HBO-bias, causes casual fight fan bias, resulting in false cries of "robbery" for evenly-contested fights.
The Lara fight was close and could have gone either way. I had it a draw. The 117-111 scorecard is very generous to Canelo.
Cotto-Canelo was a close, competitive fight that all three judges had wide to Canelo, one of whom had it a ridiculous 119-109.
Two of the three judges in the Khan fight had Canelo ahead prior to the stoppage, while most observers agree that Khan won 3 or 4 of the 5 completed rounds.
All that said, Canelo has never been involved in a robbery - he's just gotten the benefit of the doubt time and time again.
Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
OK, I made a mistake, I didn't intend to be impolite.Enlightened-One wrote:I'll think about answering that question when you explain the reason why you felt compelled to remind me of the Canelo-Mayweather bout after I'd mentioned CJ Ross.ValMar wrote:Honestly, how did you score Mayweather-Canelo, and Lara-Canelo ?Enlightened-One wrote: Read what I've written and you'll surely realise that you don't have to remind me of anything. If you don't understand certain aspects of my post, then ask me to clarify myself.
Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
I am not sure, but I think I had 117-111 or 116-112, the wide decision in any case.jezzamundo wrote:I had it 115-113 to Canelo, The Guardian had it the same. Do you really think the scorecards (117-111, 118-110 and 119-109) were reflective of the action in the fight? I thought HBO's commentary was very biased for that fight.ValMar wrote:I don't agree with you only about Cotto's case, for me Canelo won clearly that fight.jezzamundo wrote:
All of the Trout scorecards were generous to Canelo, the 117-110 scorecard in particular. I had it 114-113 to Canelo, but could see it close to Trout.
The Lara fight was close and could have gone either way. I had it a draw. The 117-111 scorecard is very generous to Canelo.
Cotto-Canelo was a close, competitive fight that all three judges had wide to Canelo, one of whom had it a ridiculous 119-109.
Two of the three judges in the Khan fight had Canelo ahead prior to the stoppage, while most observers agree that Khan won 3 or 4 of the 5 completed rounds.
All that said, Canelo has never been involved in a robbery - he's just gotten the benefit of the doubt time and time again.
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Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
Thanks. I don't consider 116-112 to be a wide decision. Score two rounds the other way (and there were lots of close rounds in that fight) and it's a draw. Score one round the other way and it's 115-113 which is as close as you can get, without even rounds or knockdowns. For the record, I think 116-112 to Canelo is a fair scorecard for the fight, but I could also see it 115-113 to Cotto because there were so many close rounds.ValMar wrote:I am not sure, but I think I had 117-111 or 116-112, the wide decision in any case.jezzamundo wrote:I had it 115-113 to Canelo, The Guardian had it the same. Do you really think the scorecards (117-111, 118-110 and 119-109) were reflective of the action in the fight? I thought HBO's commentary was very biased for that fight.ValMar wrote: I don't agree with you only about Cotto's case, for me Canelo won clearly that fight.
Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
OK, we can agree - 116/112 was a fair score (on the edge between close and wide decision)...........jezzamundo wrote:Thanks. I don't consider 116-112 to be a wide decision. Score two rounds the other way (and there were lots of close rounds in that fight) and it's a draw. Score one round the other way and it's 115-113 which is as close as you can get, without even rounds or knockdowns. For the record, I think 116-112 to Canelo is a fair scorecard for the fight, but I could also see it 115-113 to Cotto because there were so many close rounds.ValMar wrote:I am not sure, but I think I had 117-111 or 116-112, the wide decision in any case.jezzamundo wrote:
I had it 115-113 to Canelo, The Guardian had it the same. Do you really think the scorecards (117-111, 118-110 and 119-109) were reflective of the action in the fight? I thought HBO's commentary was very biased for that fight.
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Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
No worries. We all make mistakes.ValMar wrote:OK, I made a mistake, I didn't intend to be impolite.Enlightened-One wrote:I'll think about answering that question when you explain the reason why you felt compelled to remind me of the Canelo-Mayweather bout after I'd mentioned CJ Ross.ValMar wrote:
Honestly, how did you score Mayweather-Canelo, and Lara-Canelo ?
Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
Yes !Enlightened-One wrote:No worries. We all make mistakes.ValMar wrote:OK, I made a mistake, I didn't intend to be impolite.Enlightened-One wrote: I'll think about answering that question when you explain the reason why you felt compelled to remind me of the Canelo-Mayweather bout after I'd mentioned CJ Ross.
Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
I want just to remind you.....November 2016........
Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
What about November 2016?ValMar wrote:I want just to remind you.....November 2016........
Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
This thread was opened in November 2016....gilgamesh wrote:What about November 2016?ValMar wrote:I want just to remind you.....November 2016........
Re: Can you imagine GGG'S win over Canelo by decision ?
Did I make a comment 5 years ago saying Canelo would win by KO, I probably did but is covered under speculation 