rab wrote:thanks for the informative replies lads . the info regarding the body shots is definitely something i would miss. i never got hit hard in the ribs the few times i sparred, so don't know the effect of that.
i definitely don't like those fights where no cares about defence. i actually wince watching them as you both guys are taking years off their careers and probably suffering long term damage.
i think what i was trying to say is ward never seems to win a fight with the better guys he fights, he just doesn't lose . that maybe sounds a bit daft as well .
I have been hit hard in the ribs sparring - definitely more painful than any kind of heat shot in my experience. I once took a fairly soft liver shot from a mate when we were mucking around with no gloves on. I had to take a knee, I was truly shocked at how debilitating it was.
i think there must be something wrong with the softer bits of my torso. on two occasions i sparred one of the young lads in the gym that had a reputation as a bit of a banger for his age (he was only 15 at the time) and he mentioned he caught me two good body shots . i never felt them and just agreed with him in case he hit me harder the next time
the head shots never hurt at the time(except the bridge of the nose, i hate getting hit there), the headaches the next morning are a good reminder though. after watching the fight yet again i think the main takeaway for me was ward showing just how clever in the ring he is . the couple of small adjustments he made (he probably made more that i didn't notice) on angles coming forward and when moving out after getting tagged early show he always has a plan b and c. after what kovalev did to hopkins, i just didn't think he wouldn't be able to adjust to wards style and catch up with him over the 12 rounds as he seems to have a good boxing brain on him as well, just not as sharp as ward.
like someone else has said, although this decision is a bit controversial for many, it will take some serious work on kovalevs part to turn it around in a rematch i think.
rab wrote:thanks for the informative replies lads . the info regarding the body shots is definitely something i would miss. i never got hit hard in the ribs the few times i sparred, so don't know the effect of that.
i definitely don't like those fights where no cares about defence. i actually wince watching them as you both guys are taking years off their careers and probably suffering long term damage.
i think what i was trying to say is ward never seems to win a fight with the better guys he fights, he just doesn't lose . that maybe sounds a bit daft as well .
I have been hit hard in the ribs sparring - definitely more painful than any kind of heat shot in my experience. I once took a fairly soft liver shot from a mate when we were mucking around with no gloves on. I had to take a knee, I was truly shocked at how debilitating it was.
i think there must be something wrong with the softer bits of my torso. on two occasions i sparred one of the young lads in the gym that had a reputation as a bit of a banger for his age (he was only 15 at the time) and he mentioned he caught me two good body shots . i never felt them and just agreed with him in case he hit me harder the next time
the head shots never hurt at the time(except the bridge of the nose, i hate getting hit there), the headaches the next morning are a good reminder though. after watching the fight yet again i think the main takeaway for me was ward showing just how clever in the ring he is . the couple of small adjustments he made (he probably made more that i didn't notice) on angles coming forward and when moving out after getting tagged early show he always has a plan b and c. after what kovalev did to hopkins, i just didn't think he wouldn't be able to adjust to wards style and catch up with him over the 12 rounds as he seems to have a good boxing brain on him as well, just not as sharp as ward.
like someone else has said, although this decision is a bit controversial for many, it will take some serious work on kovalevs part to turn it around in a rematch i think.
True. Krusher needs to work on his uppercuts and inside game. He needs to catch Ward lunging for the inside. Also, as several others have mentioned, he needs to work on cutting off the ring and landing hard to the body.
rab wrote:thanks for the informative replies lads . the info regarding the body shots is definitely something i would miss. i never got hit hard in the ribs the few times i sparred, so don't know the effect of that.
i definitely don't like those fights where no cares about defence. i actually wince watching them as you both guys are taking years off their careers and probably suffering long term damage.
i think what i was trying to say is ward never seems to win a fight with the better guys he fights, he just doesn't lose . that maybe sounds a bit daft as well .
I have been hit hard in the ribs sparring - definitely more painful than any kind of heat shot in my experience. I once took a fairly soft liver shot from a mate when we were mucking around with no gloves on. I had to take a knee, I was truly shocked at how debilitating it was.
i think there must be something wrong with the softer bits of my torso. on two occasions i sparred one of the young lads in the gym that had a reputation as a bit of a banger for his age (he was only 15 at the time) and he mentioned he caught me two good body shots . i never felt them and just agreed with him in case he hit me harder the next time
the head shots never hurt at the time(except the bridge of the nose, i hate getting hit there), the headaches the next morning are a good reminder though. after watching the fight yet again i think the main takeaway for me was ward showing just how clever in the ring he is . the couple of small adjustments he made (he probably made more that i didn't notice) on angles coming forward and when moving out after getting tagged early show he always has a plan b and c. after what kovalev did to hopkins, i just didn't think he wouldn't be able to adjust to wards style and catch up with him over the 12 rounds as he seems to have a good boxing brain on him as well, just not as sharp as ward.
like someone else has said, although this decision is a bit controversial for many, it will take some serious work on kovalevs part to turn it around in a rematch i think.
With body shots, it's a matter of being caught in the right spot. If you're tensing when being hit in the abs, you can ride a body shot pretty well - particularly if you have a strong mid-section, but there are parts of the torso with no muscle for protection - that's where having a spare tire of fat can actually be an advantage.
It was a great fight.
Have to admit there was a side of me that thought the Californian would bottle it run tap and opt for some kind of easy decision like Floyd Mayweather does.
Andre Ward isn't Floyd Mayweather and fights like a man, he stood in front of Sergey on many occasions and kicked it off proper and backed him up.
I like that Andre just didn't settle for the easy payday and came to fight and box like a real fighter.
Oakland bought some respect I gotta give it to them.
