Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

Taansend
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Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

Post by Taansend »

I completely missed the announcement on this but I see it's on here for the Joshua show.

Allen's got some b0ll0cks on him hasn't he
mullenman
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

Post by mullenman »

Fair play..

Can't be worse than the last Ortiz fight anyway..

That was so bad I went to sleep to get up early and watch the amazing ufc 205 but I missed the very good Smith fight..
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

Post by bigjack »

Taansend wrote:I completely missed the announcement on this but I see it's on here for the Joshua show.

Allen's got some b0ll0cks on him hasn't he

Shame others don't follow suit and just get in and have a go.
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

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Absolute mismatch. How can the board let someone who lost every round at domestic level challenge one of the biggest punchers at world level.
Joke of a fight.
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

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PredatorHayds wrote:Absolute mismatch. How can the board let someone who lost every round at domestic level challenge one of the biggest punchers at world level.
Joke of a fight.
Calling Allen "one of the biggest punchers at world level" is stretching it a bit, mate :maybe:
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

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Taansend wrote:
PredatorHayds wrote:Absolute mismatch. How can the board let someone who lost every round at domestic level challenge one of the biggest punchers at world level.
Joke of a fight.
Calling Allen "one of the biggest punchers at world level" is stretching it a bit, mate :maybe:
:clap:
Ortiz is the supposedly big puncher. Putting him in with Allen is a shocking fight.
Credit Allen for taking it but his managers/promoter shouldn't be allowing it.
He's got a good chin. He could quite easily just go in his shell and get battered for 10 minutes.
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Post by Mimmy »

While its not a disgrass its not far from it. A, 9 fight 'novice' being allowed to fight one of the biggest, apparent punchers in the world today who is undefeated in 26 fights with 22 knock outs is surely a missmatch and the BBBoC have to look at the reasons behind them giving the go ahead to let this happen. Allen has fought absolutely no one to give any indication he can win this fight. All I can think of they are just putting Ortiz on the bill to fill it and let the bloodfest fans see a 1 round demolision.
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

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PredatorHayds wrote:
Taansend wrote:
PredatorHayds wrote:Absolute mismatch. How can the board let someone who lost every round at domestic level challenge one of the biggest punchers at world level.
Joke of a fight.
Calling Allen "one of the biggest punchers at world level" is stretching it a bit, mate :maybe:
:clap:
Ortiz is the supposedly big puncher. Putting him in with Allen is a shocking fight.
Credit Allen for taking it but his managers/promoter shouldn't be allowing it.
He's got a good chin. He could quite easily just go in his shell and get battered for 10 minutes.
On paper it does look like a horrible mismatch.

I just hope we see a tremendous upset
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

Post by Andrew »

I've nothing against Dave Allen as he seems alright and obviously doesn't give a f*ck.

However this is a gross mismatch and Hearn should be ashamed. This isn't even to do with Allens ability.

Only 3 months ago he said he was putting his career on hold to deal with depression

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... depression
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

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I hope Allen wins by Brutal KO.
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Edward's promoting licence should be taken away from him
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

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PredatorHayds wrote:
Taansend wrote:
PredatorHayds wrote:Absolute mismatch. How can the board let someone who lost every round at domestic level challenge one of the biggest punchers at world level.
Joke of a fight.
Calling Allen "one of the biggest punchers at world level" is stretching it a bit, mate :maybe:
:clap:
Ortiz is the supposedly big puncher. Putting him in with Allen is a shocking fight.
Credit Allen for taking it but his managers/promoter shouldn't be allowing it.
He's got a good chin. He could quite easily just go in his shell and get battered for 10 minutes.
I'm not sure he has any. I know he definitely doesn't have a promoter
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

Post by lefty »

Good showcase fight for Ortiz. Hopefully he fights Whyte next if the latter beats Chisora.
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So Whyte, and then Ortiz for Allen.

After he gets beaten down this time, will AJ be next?
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crusader wrote:So Whyte, and then Ortiz for Allen.

After he gets beaten down this time, will AJ be next?
Wilder will need a comeback opponent....
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

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Killer Blow wrote:Edward's promoting licence should be taken away from him
No. The board shouldn't allow the fight. It's their job to stop complete mismatches like this happening and to protect boxers.
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

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keithmoonhangover wrote:
Killer Blow wrote:Edward's promoting licence should be taken away from him
No. The board shouldn't allow the fight. It's their job to stop complete mismatches like this happening and to protect boxers.
And you don't think the promoter should take any of the blame in such a titanic mismatch?
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

Post by Rob3_142 »

This indicates desperate match making.
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

Post by Stuarty »

Ortiz is arguably at the higher end of world level whereas Dave Allen is a few levels bellow British level! Excellent match making :TU:
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

Post by samwbr »

He'll put in a better display than Malik Scott.
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

Post by Boxerbeetle »

Truly shocking matchmaking. This is simply to try to get Ortiz looking good after his awful fight with Scott. Allen is going to get annihilated.
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

Post by Rexob »

I think Allen will win.
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

Post by Killer Blow »

Rexob wrote:I think Allen will win.
It's people like you that are responsible for this fight happening.
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

Post by asdfjkl »

Ortiz winning all rounds again, without KOing him.

I'm curious about Rostislav Plechko, he shows very impressive numbers at this moment.
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Re: Dave Allen v Luis Ortiz

Post by keithmoonhangover »

Killer Blow wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Killer Blow wrote:Edward's promoting licence should be taken away from him
No. The board shouldn't allow the fight. It's their job to stop complete mismatches like this happening and to protect boxers.
And you don't think the promoter should take any of the blame in such a titanic mismatch?
No. The BBBofC are there to safeguard boxers. They sanction mismatches all the time.
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