On This Day: A frustrated Roberto Duran surrenders to Sugar Ray Leonard

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On This Day: A frustrated Roberto Duran surrenders to Sugar Ray Leonard

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ROBERTO DURAN, the man they called Stone Fists, the man in whom burned a cold, merciless desire for victory, astounded the boxing world by turning human in the New Orleans Superdome.

Duran walked out of his WBC welterweight title re-match with Sugar Ray Leonard after 2 minutes 44 seconds of the eighth round.

He was not hurt, not bleeding, not out of the fight. He just lost his temper and quit.

Duran announced his retirement afterwards. “I will never fight again,” he said. “I am retiring from boxing now.”

The Louisiana State Commission voted unanimously to withhold all of Duran’s $8m purse and also ordered that he be medically examined.

A distressed Duran said he had cramps in his stomach and right arm. Throughout the seventh round Leonard had taunted him, dropping his hands and inviting him to throw a punch, winding up his right hand and jolting Duran with a left jab.

It was designed to send the champion into a rage, but not even Leonard could imagine the effect it could have. Suddenly the Panamanian stopped bobbing and weaving, straightened up and waved his glove in a dismissive gesture.

He half turned away and Leonard drove in a right to the body and left to the side.

Referee Octavio Meyran jumped between the two, and – as if he couldn’t believe it either – hesitated and invited Duran to continue.

But the 29–year-old champ turned his back again, scowling and gesticulating. Leonard raved across the ring and leapt on the ropes in a neutral corner with his arms raised in triumph.

Duran made a belated show of wanting to resume the battle but by this time the ring was filled with assorted hangers on. Duran trudged back to his corner. Physically, there seemed nothing wrong.

As for Leonard, the future is bright again. At 24 he has an apparently dazzling and lucrative career ahead. Only rival champ Thomas Hearns would offer the slightest threat to his supremacy now.

Helped by a large ring, Leonard danced around and picked Duran off from the start. His was a classy display of boxing on the move and off the ropes. The results re-instate him as one of the modern greats.

Leonard turned in a good opening round before they both upped the pace in the second. Duran raced in and scored with two hard rights, one of which sent Leonard back.

The challenger kept on the move catching Duran with one flashing right hand as the champion’s lead fell short. Shortly before the bell, another left hook landed solidly on Duran’s bearded jaw.

As he came off his stool for the third Duran seemed to be enjoying himself. The satisfied, menacing smile emphasised that he was doing what he loved best.

He barged Leonard into the ropes and pounded away, but Leonard sunk a hard left to the head. It was a good round for Duran.

He managed to pin Leonard on the ropes for long spells and despite the challenger’s eye-catching flurries, punched away to head and body. Leonard wrapped his left glove around Duran’s neck to keep him from doing too much damage.

In the fourth, Leonard was again forced into the ropes, but moved off them to catch Duran with a left hook to the waist line. The challenger suddenly put his punches together in a typical burst and Duran took them in midring.

Duran’s shots were falling short but it was also difficult to tell how many of Leonard’s counters were landing solidly. Duran missed with a charge near Leonard’s corner and ended up half way through the ropes on his knees.

In the fifth, the challenger’s work rate dropped but he got on his toes and moved around the ring well in the early part of the round.

Duran cracked home a right hand, but Leonard took it well. Duran pushed him over quite spectacularly in the American’s own corner and suddenly the champion’s pressure threatened to give him control.

Leonard ended the round backed against the ropes in a neutral corner with Duran using his weight and powering away with both hands.

But Leonard took over again in round six, boxing well behind a stinging left jab. He caught Duran with a good right and left hook in mid-ring. Although the champion kept up the chase he was landing fewer punches.

Then came the dramatic seventh when Leonard simply stood and taunted his man. He dropped his hands, swayed from side to side, shrugged his shoulders and wobbled his legs.

Duran seemed bemused. Leonard produced his most outrageous act of disrespect by winding up the right hand – Ali style – then suddenly snapping left jabs into Duran’s face.

The eighth saw Leonard in control behind a sharp left jab. Duran was still tossing punches; but was caught by a good right hook just before the final, mid-ring exchange which was interrupted by his sudden decision to quit.
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Very close fight, then he quit.
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I never thought that that night would have changed my life. It was one of the events that had a profound impact and influence on me like no other. It was like 9/11 in a way. It was boxing's greatest sin. It used to hurt me for years, but not anymore.

The year 1980 was not a great year for a lot of people. The great Muhammad Ali painfully loses to the great Larry Holmes. Ex-Beatle John Lennon got shot and murdered. USA boycotting that year's Summer Olympics. The end of Disco music. KFC founder Colonel Sanders death. And then the Hands of Stone quits against a guy he beat 5 months earlier. That was too much for me to overcome.
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Very strange. Who knew that Duran may give up .
It was Sugar evening but five months earlier had an excellent fight both of them and it is one of the best fights ever.
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In those days I used to believe that the Hands of Stone was invincible.

"Nobody can beat the great Roberto Duran!", I said. It hurt me more than it hurt him. :cry: :cry: :cry:

I was shocked and in total disbelief. Duran has quit? I couldn't never picture him quitting in a fight. I had seen fighters quit, but never in the middle of the ring. In the middle of a heated battle. And for all that, it happened to my favorite boxer.

When he quit, Duran soon knew who his "real friends" were. Yeah, in the best of times, they were all over him, right? But, when he lost to the great Sugar Ray Leonard, everybody deserted him. What an hypocrisy! Why Don King didn't stay after that? Why Duran's manager, Carlos Eleta took flight? Why his trainers, Ray Arcel and Freddie Brown, left him when he needed them the most now? Why his so-called fans turned their backs at him? He is not good anymore?

I stayed. I kept believing in him. He was still my man. I am a loyal fan. Always am and always will be!

Duran learned that in a hurry who were his real friends.

But, he came back to glory twice more. After all the downfall, he redeemed himself as one of top 5 greatest boxers ever. It's funny how can boxing history works. What if he never lost like that? Would've him be the greatest boxer, or be less than what he is now? It looked like without "No Mas", he would have not been as famous as he is now. Without those redeeming wins (Davey Moore and Iran Barkley), he probably would have not been even considered a top 20 all time great boxer. Maybe fate was supposed to be in his side like that. Some things you can't explain. Some things happen for a reason. The thing is, that he overcame it after been written off and that's what all great boxers mark should be measured.

Long live the great Roberto Duran! Forever my champion!
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elmersalsa wrote:I never thought that that night would have changed my life. It was one of the events that had a profound impact and influence on me like no other. It was like 9/11 in a way. It was boxing's greatest sin. It used to hurt me for years, but not anymore.

The year 1980 was not a great year for a lot of people. The great Muhammad Ali painfully loses to the great Larry Holmes. Ex-Beatle John Lennon got shot and murdered. USA boycotting that year's Summer Olympics. The end of Disco music. KFC founder Colonel Sanders death. And then the Hands of Stone quits against a guy he beat 5 months earlier. That was too much for me to overcome.
I had a similar experience. The death of John F Kennedy saddened many of us greatly when I was a young marine. Our company commander said he was in a much better place, and advised us not to have earthly heroes. Basically he said that even if the actions of your heroes never let you down, the fate of those men, interacting with a wicked world, may devastate your psyche and slow you down.

He said the world is an unfair place, at times raising up the wicked and condemning the good, but that this world and this universe are temporal and will pass away so we should take the long view. We should strive for the best while expecting the worst so bad events can't hurt us. Model our lives and our actions on the men we admire the most, imitating the style and traits that awe us, but don’t invest in hero worship. Regard others highly and respect them greatly, but be your own hero. He talked for 20 minutes. It was a message I never forgot.
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golden oldie wrote:
elmersalsa wrote:In those days I used to believe that the Hands of Stone was invincible.

"Nobody can beat the great Roberto Duran!", I said. It hurt me more than it hurt him. :cry: :cry: :cry:

I was shocked and in total disbelief. Duran has quit? I couldn't never picture him quitting in a fight. I had seen fighters quit, but never in the middle of the ring. In the middle of a heated battle. And for all that, it happened to my favorite boxer.

When he quit, Duran soon knew who his "real friends" were. Yeah, in the best of times, they were all over him, right? But, when he lost to the great Sugar Ray Leonard, everybody deserted him. What an hypocrisy! Why Don King didn't stay after that? Why Duran's manager, Carlos Eleta took flight? Why his trainers, Ray Arcel and Freddie Brown, left him when he needed them the most now? Why his so-called fans turned their backs at him? He is not good anymore?

I stayed. I kept believing in him. He was still my man. I am a loyal fan. Always am and always will be!

Duran learned that in a hurry who were his real friends.

But, he came back to glory twice more. After all the downfall, he redeemed himself as one of top 5 greatest boxers ever. It's funny how can boxing history works. What if he never lost like that? Would've him be the greatest boxer, or be less than what he is now? It looked like without "No Mas", he would have not been as famous as he is now. Without those redeeming wins (Davey Moore and Iran Barkley), he probably would have not been even considered a top 20 all time great boxer. Maybe fate was supposed to be in his side like that. Some things you can't explain. Some things happen for a reason. The thing is, that he overcame it after been written off and that's what all great boxers mark should be measured.

Long live the great Roberto Duran! Forever my champion!
It must be said there are those that accuse Duran of quitting ( though I'm not one of them ) in the Lawlor fight also.
Yeah, yeah, yeah! Many people have accused him of being a quitter even when he quit way past his prime with Pat Lawlor. A guy like Duran should not quit regardless of circumstances. Boxing is a brutal and harsh sport. Those people that never stepped into a ring can criticize lots of times. But, they can't ever feel what is like to fight in front of thousands in an arena and millions watching all over the world. It is what it is, man! It is what it is!
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Duran would be considered much GREATER if he quit Boxing right after he beat Leonard... He was 29 years old and the number 1 P4P fighter... He was a dominant Lightweight Champion who jumped over the Super Lightweight Division to beat a charismatic, undefeated Welterweight Champion to go 72-1...

Once fans and pundits see you get beaten many times, your aura of invincibility not only fades -- seeing you look like a chump destroys it altogether.
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Kalan wrote:Duran would be considered much GREATER if he quit Boxing right after he beat Leonard... He was 29 years old and the number 1 P4P fighter... He was a dominant Lightweight Champion who jumped over the Super Lightweight Division to beat a charismatic, undefeated Welterweight Champion to go 72-1...

Once fans and pundits see you get beaten many times, your aura of invincibility not only fades -- seeing you look like a chump destroys it altogether.
Duran is still seen as a near unbeatable force in most fantasy Lightweight matches people can dream up. So he still has that aura to a degree.
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Leonard was the the better fighter. He was toying with Duran. Duran did not have the guts to lose like a man. He quit like a dog. He should have have been suspended and had his purse held up. He deserves to be ripped for this instead ogetting a free pass that some people want to give him.
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Ambling Alp II wrote:Leonard was the the better fighter.
I agree !
Many people do not give Leonard credit that he deserved. He looked great.
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I never believed that the great Sugar Ray Leonard was the better fighter. Better fighter, my ass!

He caught the Hands of Stone in an OFF NIGHT.

But, when both were at their very best, Leonard got whuupped by the great Roberto Duran. All with all that holding and clutching by Leonard. Leonard would have been knocked out by a lightweight.

I don't think if Duran never would have come back from "No Mas" he would have had a higher ranking. His reputation was in shatters. He had to redeem himself like a great champion and he did. He did it in spectacular fashion.
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Realistically got him two fights and was the better fighter. At first he lost close,this was great fight from both.
We should not belittle Leonardo his results at the same time require a justification for Duran.
Leonard would probably won 7 from 10 fights.
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elmersalsa wrote:I never believed that the great Sugar Ray Leonard was the better fighter. Better fighter, my ass!

He caught the Hands of Stone in an OFF NIGHT.

But, when both were at their very best, Leonard got whuupped by the great Roberto Duran. All with all that holding and clutching by Leonard. Leonard would have been knocked out by a lightweight.

I don't think if Duran never would have come back from "No Mas" he would have had a higher ranking. His reputation was in shatters. He had to redeem himself like a great champion and he did. He did it in spectacular fashion.
Duran didn't have an off night; he just flat out quit.

The fight was close before Leonard starting toying with him.
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Duran's arrogance got the better of him. He was a superstar. And thought he'd just quit...give the fight away...and come back properly prepared... I think he woke up the next day and realised what he'd done. Nobody wanted to know him. His fans turned against him. He went into a long depression afterwards.

His out of the ring lifestyle caught up with him and he was never the same fighter...even though he'd still continue to go on and have a career most boxers would envy.
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When you win it's good when you lose it is always a problem because it is less regardless of the same rules. So boring anymore.

Definitely an excellent boxer but Leonard was better twice and the first fight he close lost. Fact.

Fans are often unjust to Leonard and for Duran always make excuses. It must have the same criteria to both.
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Keko wrote:When you win it's good when you lose it is always a problem because it is less regardless of the same rules. So boring anymore.

Definitely an excellent boxer but Leonard was better twice and the first fight he close lost. Fact.

Fans are often unjust to Leonard and for Duran always make excuses. It must have the same criteria to both.
It ain't that fans make excuses about Duran. The SAME EXCUSES Leonard's fans made when he lost to Duran. Some of the LAMEST EXCUSES:
1.Leonard didn't fight his fight. He did fought his fight. He simply JUST GOT WHUPPED.
2. HE made a big mistake in slugging it out with Duran. Duran was supposed to get beaten in their eyes, anyway. Right? Duran showed much more boxing skills than meeting the eye. Bobbed and weaved perfectly. He was not an easy target to cleanly hit. That is what Sugar Ray's fan boys don't want to admit. He got whuupped by the better fighter when both were at their very best. And that's all to it.

That Leonard won fair and square? He did.

That Duran didn't train properly like the first fight? It wasn't Sugar Ray's fault, but Duran's.

That Leonard was the better fighter? No. He wasn't. The first fight was witness of that.

That Leonard wins 7 out of 10 fights? We would never know. How can we? Leonard never gave an immediate rematch. Duran did.

Was Duran better than Leonard in the all time rankings? The majority of historians got him above Leonard. The vast majority.

That Leonard got better boxing skills than Duran? I didn't see that in the first fight. Did anyone saw that?
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elmersalsa wrote:
Keko wrote:When you win it's good when you lose it is always a problem because it is less regardless of the same rules. So boring anymore.

Definitely an excellent boxer but Leonard was better twice and the first fight he close lost. Fact.

Fans are often unjust to Leonard and for Duran always make excuses. It must have the same criteria to both.
It ain't that fans make excuses about Duran.
That Leonard won fair and square? He did.
That Leonard was the better fighter? No. He wasn't. The first fight was witness of that.
That Leonard wins 7 out of 10 fights? We would never know. How can we? Leonard never gave an immediate rematch. Duran did.
That Leonard got better boxing skills than Duran? I didn't see that in the first fight. Did anyone saw that?

I'm not thinking about you but I generally wrote.
I always see that people are looking for some justification.

Duran fans are a little unrealistic because the real Leonard and Duran had three matches and overall better impression left Leonard.
In the first match of the Duran won but they both have excellent performance.
The other two fight Leonard was simply the better fighter.

For me, they were both brilliant boxer but in mutual fighting Leonard has advantages while Duran made by me probably more in his career.
He had a longer career.
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