On what p4p elite means to me

[Jip]

ggg - slow
kovalev - slow
ward - semi athletic
gonzales - semi athletic

many boxers are good, i cant anything against gonzales, he is a top boxer and beat everybody.

but there is more than just being a good boxer and beating good opponents, in order to be called "one of the best boxers in the world, if not THE BEST"

the guys i listed, they all are good, but they all have mayor flaws, either not so athletic or slow or robotic or simply not skilled enough.

the main point i want to say is, you cant become the best boxer in the world just by training. every boxer trains hard, but only those with a very rare dna, are born athletic, superior to anybody. if you look at all the p4p kings of the last 20 years, no matter prime floyd, prime manny, prime mosley, prime jones, all had one thing in common and that was super athletiscm only few have. loma and rigo got that, the rest today dont. end of story.

sure, there was hopkins, who was #1 at some point, but truth is, he was inferior to jones. sure there was forrest who beat the more athletic mosley, but truth is, forrest was tall and more like a 154 boxer and mosley was more a super lightweight, than a 147 boxer, same soze, same weight mosley > forrest.

[Enlightened-One]

The concept of the mythical "pound-for-pound" elite is purely intended to be a bit of fun. As an enjoyable way for fight fans to discuss and compare the best fighters from multiple weight-classes.

In terms of the real-world, the term is meaningless.

[Jip]

no matter how you call it, p4p or the best boxers in the world of all time. why is that meaningless to determin which boxers are concerned as being the best boxers that ever lived. boxer who are so good, that they have the rare ablity to move up in weight classes and still dominate, how is that meaningless?

[greg]

The concept of the mythical "pound-for-pound" elite is purely intended to be a bit of fun. As an enjoyable way for fight fans to discuss and compare the best fighters from multiple weight-classes.

In terms of the real-world, the term is meaningless.

..I agree with that..

[Like a Boss]

ggg - slow
kovalev - slow
ward - semi athletic
gonzales - semi athletic

There's a whole lot of difference between winning a 100 metre sprint race and winning a boxing match.

[Jip]

its funny talking to non experts....

i made loma #2 since about 3 years ago on my list, because i saw his talent right away and you guys have slow robotic guys at the peak of your lists and now all of the sudden everybody is on the lomachenko bandwagon.......experts see future during the present, non experts cant