MMA

[p4p1]

I was rooting for my hometown boy, Brunson. But, dang! I don't think I've seen that much lunging in a single MMA round, ever. He was full steam ahead, just about no technique. Kudos to Whitaker for surviving the initial onslaught and finishing the job.

I haven't seen the fight but man I love Whitaker. I'd actually favour him over Bisping because of his power. Against the other top guys not so much though.

Was interesting. Brunson seemed to be fighting with a lot of nerves. Whitaker looked like he got hurt early in one of the exchanges, but did a really good job recovering. His shots were much more precise and and were landing pretty much at will. Brunson looked to had blown his load a bit premature last night...

Whitaker is explosive and accurate. I think when he gets dragged on late by some good guys though he will fade and lose. Would love to be proven wrong though.

[Impractical Poster]

I like Whitaker's passion. He really slams his chest hard as hell before and after his bouts. Looks like it hurts...lol

[p4p1]

I just watched the Whitaker v Brunson fight. Was an exciting round for sure!!!!

Massive respect to Whitaker he took on someone who style wise should be one of worst match ups. But it was a impressive win and at only 25 we may be looking at the future champ given most if not all ranked above him are on the wrong side of 30.

[lefty]

I just watched the Whitaker v Brunson fight. Was an exciting round for sure!!!!

Massive respect to Whitaker he took on someone who style wise should be one of worst match ups. But it was a impressive win and at only 25 we may be looking at the future champ given most if not all ranked above him are on the wrong side of 30.

Saying that though- when you look at a lot of the champions from every division or even the top contenders- they tend to be 30 or over. In other sports that would be quite unusual but in MMA it seems the norm somewhat.

[p4p1]

I just watched the Whitaker v Brunson fight. Was an exciting round for sure!!!!

Massive respect to Whitaker he took on someone who style wise should be one of worst match ups. But it was a impressive win and at only 25 we may be looking at the future champ given most if not all ranked above him are on the wrong side of 30.

Saying that though- when you look at a lot of the champions from every division or even the top contenders- they tend to be 30 or over. In other sports that would be quite unusual but in MMA it seems the norm somewhat.

That's part of the reason why I said he's in a prime position to be champ. In 5 years he will be 30-31. Bisping and Romero will be 43, everyone else who is around the same ranking as him will be in their late 30s. That's not to discount the fact that in 5 years there will be a heap of contenders we've haven't heard of yet and among them will likely be someone better than he is but I think he is in a good position to pick up a the belt at some stage in the future and his grappling seems to improve Everytime we see him.

With Brunson his rushing style causes problems for a lot of guys including those at or near the top but as he did with Whitaker I expect against guys like Bisping, Romero(forgetting that he likely couldn't/keep get him down anyway), Jacare(who would sub him if it got to the ground), Weidman, Rockhold and Mousasi he will run into a shot against those guys and end up getting finished. I like how aggressive he is with his grappling but he does leave himself too open to get hit coming in and the elite guys will time him and finish him.

Completely off topic but
A thing I really see for an opening in MMA is a guy who goes to Thailand or trains with top Thai fighters to learn how to use elbows on the inside during the clinch game. When I was training in Thailand I actually asked a guy who was there why they don't teach more guys to use elbows consistently while clinching and his reply was they've tried but most of the guys just don't get it/pick it up for MMA. Even guys like W. Silva and A. Silva who were known for their Muay Thai clinch focused on knees and barely used elbows.

[lefty]

Yeah I get what you mean now. I see what you're getting at regarding the thai clinch and lack of elbows. There does seem to be lack of elbows in the clinch like you say which is kinda weird actually.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I just watched the Whitaker v Brunson fight. Was an exciting round for sure!!!!

Massive respect to Whitaker he took on someone who style wise should be one of worst match ups. But it was a impressive win and at only 25 we may be looking at the future champ given most if not all ranked above him are on the wrong side of 30.

Saying that though- when you look at a lot of the champions from every division or even the top contenders- they tend to be 30 or over. In other sports that would be quite unusual but in MMA it seems the norm somewhat.

That's part of the reason why I said he's in a prime position to be champ. In 5 years he will be 30-31. Bisping and Romero will be 43, everyone else who is around the same ranking as him will be in their late 30s. That's not to discount the fact that in 5 years there will be a heap of contenders we've haven't heard of yet and among them will likely be someone better than he is but I think he is in a good position to pick up a the belt at some stage in the future and his grappling seems to improve Everytime we see him.

With Brunson his rushing style causes problems for a lot of guys including those at or near the top but as he did with Whitaker I expect against guys like Bisping, Romero(forgetting that he likely couldn't/keep get him down anyway), Jacare(who would sub him if it got to the ground), Weidman, Rockhold and Mousasi he will run into a shot against those guys and end up getting finished. I like how aggressive he is with his grappling but he does leave himself too open to get hit coming in and the elite guys will time him and finish him.

Completely off topic but
A thing I really see for an opening in MMA is a guy who goes to Thailand or trains with top Thai fighters to learn how to use elbows on the inside during the clinch game. When I was training in Thailand I actually asked a guy who was there why they don't teach more guys to use elbows consistently while clinching and his reply was they've tried but most of the guys just don't get it/pick it up for MMA. Even guys like W. Silva and A. Silva who were known for their Muay Thai clinch focused on knees and barely used elbows.

Jon jones was lethal with his use of short elbows inside, and from longer range too.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Joanna does it all the time.

[p4p1]

I totally forgot about Jones. I guess I haven't seen him fight for so long though. But exactly my point he used to fornicate dudes up with elbows in the clinch yet guys still don't do it. There's an Aussie Muay Thai fighter called Nathan Corbett and he used to be brutal with his elbows from anywhere. I'm sure time has warped my memory but I remember watching him once and pretty much all he threw was elbows

That's one thing about Australia we have had and do have some really good level Muay Thai guys. Off the top of my head there's Parr, Dawson, Corbett, McFee and a young dude called Toby smith who clinch is fornicating brutal. If you can check out his fight with John parr give it a go. He best Parr in the clinch who's far more experienced than him as at the time he was 22 or 23 and with elbow broke some bones in his face. Just pure violence and aggression I'll see if I can find the fight and link it. If you know how good JWP you'll understand what a statement this fight was.

[lefty]

I totally forgot about Jones. I guess I haven't seen him fight for so long though. But exactly my point he used to eff dudes up with elbows in the clinch yet guys still don't do it. There's an Aussie Muay Thai fighter called Nathan Corbett and he used to be brutal with his elbows from anywhere. I'm sure time has warped my memory but I remember watching him once and pretty much all he threw was elbows

That's one thing about Australia we have had and do have some really good level Muay Thai guys. Off the top of my head there's Parr, Dawson, Corbett, McFee and a young dude called Toby smith who clinch is effing brutal. If you can check out his fight with John parr give it a go. He best Parr in the clinch who's far more experienced than him as at the time he was 22 or 23 and with elbow broke some bones in his face. Just pure violence and aggression I'll see if I can find the fight and link it. If you know how good JWP you'll understand what a statement this fight was.

I've not watched a ton of Muay Thai but I've heard Parr mentioned quite a bit and saw a clip of him on Rogans podcast I think. The guy that beat him up sounds very promising. One thing I will say though- Parr is getting towards the end of his career though right? He's like late 30's/ early 40's or something? I could be wrong though!

[p4p1]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x200ve ... mith_sport

[p4p1]

I totally forgot about Jones. I guess I haven't seen him fight for so long though. But exactly my point he used to eff dudes up with elbows in the clinch yet guys still don't do it. There's an Aussie Muay Thai fighter called Nathan Corbett and he used to be brutal with his elbows from anywhere. I'm sure time has warped my memory but I remember watching him once and pretty much all he threw was elbows

That's one thing about Australia we have had and do have some really good level Muay Thai guys. Off the top of my head there's Parr, Dawson, Corbett, McFee and a young dude called Toby smith who clinch is effing brutal. If you can check out his fight with John parr give it a go. He best Parr in the clinch who's far more experienced than him as at the time he was 22 or 23 and with elbow broke some bones in his face. Just pure violence and aggression I'll see if I can find the fight and link it. If you know how good JWP you'll understand what a statement this fight was.

I've not watched a ton of Muay Thai but I've heard Parr mentioned quite a bit and saw a clip of him on Rogans podcast I think. The guy that beat him up sounds very promising. One thing I will say though- Parr is getting towards the end of his career though right? He's like late 30's/ early 40's or something? I could be wrong though!

Yeah mate at the time of their fight he was 38 while smith was 21 so I think in my mind anyway it balances out a little. If you watch the video though I'm not so sure age had a heap to do with it. I was surprised that given all of his experience JWP just had no answer for Smiths clinch.

Watch the fight ending elbow, I don't recall seeing anyone in the UFC throwing them like that but I think it is a perfect elbow for MMA.

[p4p1]

This is a mate of mine I used to train with when he switched to boxing. He's about 20 or so here. He quit MT/KBing when he was 23 to take up boxing. By that stage he'd won 10 world titles across both sports. He was IMO a great talent but couldn't afford to live off the low wages of the sport. Back then the money was obviously in Japan but ther was no guarantee you would get paid.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o8WcDsGzAJc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mizS9AyEeA

[Impractical Poster]

A cracking free card tomorrow night...

Gray Maynard/Ryan Hall are headlining the prelim portion.

Then we have

Ellenberger/Masvidal
Benavidez/Cejudo
DJ/Tim Elliott

Benavidez/Cejudo should be awesome.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I'm looking forward to it, though I'm disappointed more fighters from that great season aren't fighting.

[Impractical Poster]

I'm looking forward to it, though I'm disappointed more fighters from that great season aren't fighting.

It does suck. But, I'm happy to see Moreno on it. He really showed some mettle in coming off an early loss on the show to beating Smolka. I love this kid's attitude.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I'm looking forward to it, though I'm disappointed more fighters from that great season aren't fighting.

It does suck. But, I'm happy to see Moreno on it. He really showed some mettle in coming off an early loss on the show to beating Smolka. I love this kid's attitude.

Yeah man, he won me over before he even fought on the show. Unfortunately i know Ryan, so I gotta go against him tomorrow.

[Impractical Poster]

Joe Warren stinks.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I barely made it through that. More interested in the Caldwell rematch tonight.

[Impractical Poster]

I barely made it through that. More interested in the Caldwell rematch tonight.

I'll be recording that one.

You got Cejudo or Benavidez?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I barely made it through that. More interested in the Caldwell rematch tonight.

I'll be recording that one.

You got Cejudo or Benavidez?

Tough call, Benavidez has been the top contender for as long as DJ has been champ. I think cejudo has been fighting like koscheck, I hate it when great wrestlers think they're strikers because they improve a lot. Give me Joe.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

"bully" lmao, at least try to win.

[Impractical Poster]

I found the pair of them irritating to watch. Maynard sucked tonight. Ryan is a sleepy looking dude. Not really what I look for in the sport. I understand his ground game is top notch, but the amount of times he throws himself on the canvas is quite irritating.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Agreed, that was like reem/werdum. A visual nightmare. More bothered by Maynard, pathetic effort.

[zojo]

Good to see McMann back in the win column