davie
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by davie » 02 Dec 2016, 12:48
Horse wrote: davie wrote: And if we're ranking fighters on the strength of what they did in 2016, surely Fury isn't top 30, let alone no1
Luckily for Fury that's not how I do things.
Are you sure?
Horse wrote: I think Campbell has had a much stronger 2016 than Eubank Jr.
Joshua will overtake Campbell if he beats Molina this month.
Horse
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by Horse » 02 Dec 2016, 12:56
davie wrote: My unquestionably good judgement
Haye doesn't currently deserve to be ranked.
Haye will earn a place if he beats Bellew.
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by Horse » 02 Dec 2016, 12:57
Naandrew wrote: Skeetes win over Eggington is better than anything Liam Smith has done.
John Thompson who he beat for the WBO title was awful got sparked in 2 by an unknown not long before that. What's his best win Ochieng ?
Also Gallagher turned down the Andrade fight a couple of months before because he knows Liam Smith is far from world class.
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by Horse » 02 Dec 2016, 12:58
BigDoofus wrote: Joshua winning a version of a world title trumps Campbell losing to the world no.26.
So?
BigDoofus
Welterweight
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by BigDoofus » 02 Dec 2016, 18:01
Horse wrote: BigDoofus wrote: Joshua winning a version of a world title trumps Campbell losing to the world no.26.
So?
So you'd have to be a bit dim to rate Campbell higher.
keithmoonhangover
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by keithmoonhangover » 02 Dec 2016, 18:05
Why is Fury still on the list. He's been inactive for over a year and has no intention of fighting in the near future.
Also Haye should be on the list.
Don't know why I'm bothering commenting, because you never change anything.
Andrew
Light Heavyweight
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by Andrew » 03 Dec 2016, 03:45
No license and oh what about that UKAD hearing that was apparently happening in November.
Hughie hasn't fought since April and has nothing lined up as well hmmmm
BitPlayer
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by BitPlayer » 03 Dec 2016, 07:27
Hughie was going to fight Ruiz Jr, until he got the offer to fight Parker for the WBO belt.
Andrew
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by Andrew » 03 Dec 2016, 09:39
BitPlayer wrote: Hughie was going to fight Ruiz Jr, until he got the offer to fight Parker for the WBO belt.
I don't think a single person on the forum thought that fight was going to happen the second it was announced ( in fact that card itself too) Andy Ruiz didn't even sign a contract for it as well.
The WBO situation didn't happen until a few weeks later when Fury vacated.
Hughie is actually a Warren fighter now and I'm sure he signed with MGM so there's no reason he isn't active.....
rd350lc
Super Welterweight
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by rd350lc » 03 Dec 2016, 14:41
Naandrew wrote:
No license and oh what about that UKAD hearing that was apparently happening in November.
Hughie hasn't fought since April and has nothing lined up as well hmmmm
wtf indeed is he not fighting ? I thought now he had all his health issues sorted out he was raring to go ???????
Horse
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by Horse » 04 Dec 2016, 12:44
BigDoofus wrote: Undisputed world cruiserweight champion and world heavyweight champion is not as good as Tyrone Nurse?
This is not an ATG ranking.
Haye hasn't done anything decent in years.
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by Horse » 04 Dec 2016, 12:45
davie wrote: Are you sure?
Yes.
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by Horse » 04 Dec 2016, 12:47
BigDoofus wrote: So you'd have to be a bit dim to rate Campbell higher.
You'd have to be a bit dim to think that that is a good argument.
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by Horse » 04 Dec 2016, 12:51
keithmoonhangover wrote: Why is Fury still on the list. He's been inactive for over a year and has no intention of fighting in the near future.
Because he is the heavyweight champion.
keithmoonhangover wrote: Also Haye should be on the list.
For beating DeMori and Gjergjaj? That's all that he's done in the 4.5 years since he fought Chisora.
keithmoonhangover wrote: Don't know why I'm bothering commenting, because you never change anything.
Don't then.
keithmoonhangover
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by keithmoonhangover » 04 Dec 2016, 13:16
Horse wrote: keithmoonhangover wrote: Why is Fury still on the list. He's been inactive for over a year and has no intention of fighting in the near future.
Because he is the heavyweight champion.
keithmoonhangover wrote: Also Haye should be on the list.
For beating DeMori and Gjergjaj? That's all that he's done in the 4.5 years since he fought Chisora.
keithmoonhangover wrote: Don't know why I'm bothering commenting, because you never change anything.
Don't then.
He's not the heavyweight champion Horse. He used to be the heavyweight champion. You know this, but as you have a massive man crush on Luke Fury, he's up there at #1, despite not fighting in a year, failing two drug tests, being stripped of all of his titles and not having a licence to box. Madness, but then again, it's you, so why should I expect anything else.
BitPlayer
Welterweight
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by BitPlayer » 04 Dec 2016, 13:20
Will you drop Saunders down for his performance?
Horse
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by Horse » 04 Dec 2016, 13:23
BitPlayer wrote: Will you drop Saunders down for his performance?
Probably not, but he'll be far easier to overtake now.
His performance was abysmal.
Killer Blow
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by Killer Blow » 04 Dec 2016, 14:20
What happens to the Whyte/Chisora winner?
BitPlayer
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by BitPlayer » 04 Dec 2016, 14:37
Killer Blow wrote: What happens to the Whyte/Chisora winner?
TBH there's a good number of fighters ahead of the winner of that IMO.
Whyte's done nothing, and Chisora's done nothing for the last couple years.
Horse
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by Horse » 04 Dec 2016, 17:30
Killer Blow wrote: What happens to the Whyte/Chisora winner?
They'll probably enter the rankings.
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by Horse » 04 Dec 2016, 17:32
BitPlayer wrote: TBH there's a good number of fighters ahead of the winner of that IMO.
Whyte's done nothing, and Chisora's done nothing for the last couple years.
The winner will have done something.
rd350lc
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by rd350lc » 04 Dec 2016, 18:02
Horse wrote: keithmoonhangover wrote: Why is Fury still on the list. He's been inactive for over a year and has no intention of fighting in the near future.
Because he is the heavyweight champion.
keithmoonhangover wrote: Also Haye should be on the list.
For beating DeMori and Gjergjaj? That's all that he's done in the 4.5 years since he fought Chisora.
keithmoonhangover wrote: Don't know why I'm bothering commenting, because you never change anything.
Don't then.
we should know by now that when the equine one says comments are welcome , he means they are not .
keithmoonhangover
Cruiserweight
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by keithmoonhangover » 04 Dec 2016, 18:51
rd350lc wrote: Horse wrote: keithmoonhangover wrote: Why is Fury still on the list. He's been inactive for over a year and has no intention of fighting in the near future.
Because he is the heavyweight champion.
keithmoonhangover wrote: Also Haye should be on the list.
For beating DeMori and Gjergjaj? That's all that he's done in the 4.5 years since he fought Chisora.
keithmoonhangover wrote: Don't know why I'm bothering commenting, because you never change anything.
Don't then.
we should know by now that when the equine one says comments are welcome , he means they are not .
I know. I do genuinely admire Horse for doing the list.