This Indongo guy could be a problem for Crawford

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This Indongo guy could be a problem for Crawford

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his is taller, has more reach than crawford and kod his last 2 opponents in 1 rd. he swings wild, makes him very dangerous, puts his whole body into 1 swing, can end it all.

they should cancel crawford molina anyway. molina lost like 5 of his last 10 fights, shouldnt be in the ring with the best in the division.

crawford - indongo is a MUST. crawford the #1, indongo got a good momentum, knocking good guys out in the first.
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Jip wrote:his is taller, has more reach than crawford and kod his last 2 opponents in 1 rd. he swings wild, makes him very dangerous, puts his whole body into 1 swing, can end it all.

they should cancel crawford molina anyway. molina lost like 5 of his last 10 fights, shouldnt be in the ring with the best in the division.

crawford - indongo is a MUST. crawford the #1, indongo got a good momentum, knocking good guys out in the first.
Molina has been known to catch good boxers cold too.

I agree that Indongo poses interesting challenges for any light welter opponent. I completely disagree with your characterization of his punching as swinging wild. He was focused and purposeful with everything he did in there yesterday. He controlled distance beautifully and every shot he threw was for a reason. He was anything but wild.

I definitely think that he deserves a shot at Hitman Jr. He presents a dangerous puzzle and it would be very interesting to see how Crawford would choose to deal with it.
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The downside with such fast KO wins is that we learn very little about a fighter when they happen. Don't get me wrong, it isn't bad, but he could easily wind up getting broken down against Crawford, destroyed and never be heard from again.
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Tanzio wrote:
Jip wrote:his is taller, has more reach than crawford and kod his last 2 opponents in 1 rd. he swings wild, makes him very dangerous, puts his whole body into 1 swing, can end it all.

they should cancel crawford molina anyway. molina lost like 5 of his last 10 fights, shouldnt be in the ring with the best in the division.

crawford - indongo is a MUST. crawford the #1, indongo got a good momentum, knocking good guys out in the first.
Molina has been known to catch good boxers cold too.

I agree that Indongo poses interesting challenges for any light welter opponent. I completely disagree with your characterization of his punching as swinging wild. He was focused and purposeful with everything he did in there yesterday. He controlled distance beautifully and every shot he threw was for a reason. He was anything but wild.

I definitely think that he deserves a shot at Hitman Jr. He presents a dangerous puzzle and it would be very interesting to see how Crawford would choose to deal with it.

molina is shyt. even weak broner beat him easily. broner wouldnt beat indongo easily. damn, indongo is like 5'11, this dude is tall, with power, molina is not in that league. i say crawford wins, but dongo would surely make it more interresting than postol did. height and power are always good responses to questions
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Jip wrote:but dongo would surely make it more interresting than postol did.
how can you draw that conclusion after a 40 second knockout?we still know absolutely nothing about indongo
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LancashireLoyal wrote:
Jip wrote:but dongo would surely make it more interresting than postol did.
how can you draw that conclusion after a 40 second knockout?we still know absolutely nothing about indongo

cause i saw that he got more power than postol and puts his whole body into 1 punch to hurt the most, thats enough for me to know.
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LancashireLoyal wrote:
Jip wrote:but dongo would surely make it more interresting than postol did.
how can you draw that conclusion after a 40 second knockout?we still know absolutely nothing about indongo
Exactly. Most likely, Crawford will easily craft :lol: his way to a safe wide decision like he did with Postol.
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Jip wrote:
LancashireLoyal wrote:
Jip wrote:but dongo would surely make it more interresting than postol did.
how can you draw that conclusion after a 40 second knockout?we still know absolutely nothing about indongo

cause i saw that he got more power than postol and puts his whole body into 1 punch to hurt the most, thats enough for me to know.
Anyone can put everything into one punch, doesn't mean that it's going to land. Trying that against a slick boxer like Crawford will never end well, he'd hit thin air then get taken apart with counters. You can't just swing at the highest level, you need the skills to work your way in and open up the opportunity to land the big shot. He might hit harder than Postol but that doesn't mean he's a better fighter, Matthyse was a much bigger puncher too and it didn't end well for him.
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Indongo is known to alternate the very good with the very average, according to some posters who saw his earlier fights.

But i agree, put Crawford in front of him last night and anything can happen.
For a moment i thought i was seeing the reincarnation of Sandy Saddler in there.
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Indongo is tall and rangy. A added plus he is a southpaw. Indongo would be a problem for anyone at 140.

IMO. Indongo's fighting style appears to be similar to Adonis Stevenson.
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Jip wrote:
LancashireLoyal wrote:
Jip wrote:but dongo would surely make it more interresting than postol did.
how can you draw that conclusion after a 40 second knockout?we still know absolutely nothing about indongo

cause i saw that he got more power than postol and puts his whole body into 1 punch.....
...which is why he will probably miss and lose balance a lot when hes up against against elite skills. In that 40 second fight I think he overbalanced over his front leg at least three times.
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He wouldn't win a round.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He wouldn't win a round.
. . . but he deserves a chance to try.
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Indongo is about the exact height and length as Lebedev. :OhYes: I would love to see him v Postol.
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A spectacular 40 second KTFO looks great, but leaves many questions to be answered. Indongo's KO rate is barely above 50 percent, against pretty unspectacular opposition for the most part, and I won't be surprised if he doesn't seem at all like a puncher in his next bout. Blowing out Troya so quickly also doesn't prove much about where his skills are at, how he takes a shot, etc.

I question whether Indongo would beat Ricky Burns or John Molina, let alone Crawford.
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crusader wrote:A spectacular 40 second KTFO looks great, but leaves many questions to be answered. Indongo's KO rate is barely above 50 percent, against pretty unspectacular opposition for the most part, and I won't be surprised if he doesn't seem at all like a puncher in his next bout. Blowing out Troya so quickly also doesn't prove much about where his skills are at, how he takes a shot, etc.

I question whether Indongo would beat Ricky Burns or John Molina, let alone Crawford.

who cares about skills :brick: :lol: dongo would make it fun, cause if he catches craw, than c got a problem and if he doesnt crawford will ud him in an entertaining bout.
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Tanzio wrote:
Jip wrote:his is taller, has more reach than crawford and kod his last 2 opponents in 1 rd. he swings wild, makes him very dangerous, puts his whole body into 1 swing, can end it all.

they should cancel crawford molina anyway. molina lost like 5 of his last 10 fights, shouldnt be in the ring with the best in the division.

crawford - indongo is a MUST. crawford the #1, indongo got a good momentum, knocking good guys out in the first.
Molina has been known to catch good boxers cold too.

I agree that Indongo poses interesting challenges for any light welter opponent. I completely disagree with your characterization of his punching as swinging wild. He was focused and purposeful with everything he did in there yesterday. He controlled distance beautifully and every shot he threw was for a reason. He was anything but wild.

I definitely think that he deserves a shot at Hitman Jr. He presents a dangerous puzzle and it would be very interesting to see how Crawford would choose to deal with it.
Yep, that left was very precise and well controlled -- you could see him pull it back right after impact.
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I think Indongo's win over Troyankovsky isn't a very good indicator of what Indongo is capable of. Troyanovsky basically closed his eyes and froze-up while the punch was still 3-4 feet away from his face. His only top 20 opponent ever was Cuenca, and Cuenca can't crack an egg. It's very likely that against anyone who knows how to react to an incoming punch, Indongo wouldn't have this degree of success.
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Speaking about this weight class, a former JMW champion, Carlos Molina, moved down to 140 and is having his 5th fight this year in two weeks. For a former champion, he isn't challenging himself much.
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boxing_rocks wrote:Speaking about this weight class, a former JMW champion, Carlos Molina, moved down to 140 and is having his 5th fight this year in two weeks. For a former champion, he isn't challenging himself much.
He can only fight in Mexico.
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crusader wrote:A spectacular 40 second KTFO looks great, but leaves many questions to be answered. Indongo's KO rate is barely above 50 percent, against pretty unspectacular opposition for the most part, and I won't be surprised if he doesn't seem at all like a puncher in his next bout. Blowing out Troya so quickly also doesn't prove much about where his skills are at, how he takes a shot, etc.

I question whether Indongo would beat Ricky Burns or John Molina, let alone Crawford.
This!!!!
Last week barely anyone on this forum knew about him and now he should fight Crawford? All this analysis from less than a minute?
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I do agree though Molina is a shocking defense.
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Lackeos wrote:I think Indongo's win over Troyankovsky isn't a very good indicator of what Indongo is capable of. Troyanovsky basically closed his eyes and froze-up while the punch was still 3-4 feet away from his face. His only top 20 opponent ever was Cuenca, and Cuenca can't crack an egg. It's very likely that against anyone who knows how to react to an incoming punch, Indongo wouldn't have this degree of success.

Obara is top 20 -- he rocked Troyanovsky too before getting stopped.
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littlekinny wrote:I do agree though Molina is a shocking defense.
I agree.

Crawford is overrated at this point, imo, and I include myself in that criticism. By far his biggest win is Postol, who is essentially the guy that many thought would be stopped by Matthysse. It was a great win but what came immediately before it? Now we get the second best Molina at 140.

Indongo beat the guy who was allegedly next up for Crawford in spectacular fashion. It was a short fight but in that 40 seconds Indongo proved that he is capable of competing. He is long and he showed the capability to use that length. He has pop. He is tall, strong, fast, hungry and undefeated.

Crawford's main claim to fame is beating the guy who beat the guy who was supposed to be the guy to test him. Sounds like Indongo to me.

Give the African his shot.
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Anyway, I would like to see this fight. As soon as possible.
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