Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings CLOSED

[jezzamundo]

BWH Rankings as of 10 November 2016:

Champion in Recess: Tyson Fury
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Luis Ortiz
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Joseph Parker
7. Anthony Joshua
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Carlos Takam
10. Vyacheslav Glazkov
11. Lucas Browne
12. Bermane Stiverne
13. Artur Szpilka
14. Dereck Chisora
15. Johann Duhaupas

Topic A - How are the rankings affected by Kubrat Pulev's RTD3 win over Samuel Peter?

My vote: Pulev to #6, Peter remains unranked.

Topic B - How are the rankings affected by Joseph Parker's MD12 win over Andy Ruiz?

My vote: Parker to #7, Ruiz to #15.

Topic C - How are the rankings affected by Dillian Whyte's SD12 win over Dereck Chisora?

My vote: Whyte to #10, Chisora to #14.

Topic D - How are the rankings affected by Anthony Joshua's TKO3 win over Eric Molina?

My vote: Joshua to #5, Molina remains unranked.

Topic E - How are the rankings affected by Luis Ortiz's TKO7 win over David Allen?

My vote: Ortiz to #4, Allen remains unranked.

Note: This topic is for voting on the rankings of Pulev, Peter, Parker, Ruiz, Whyte, Chisora, Joshua, Molina, Ortiz and Allen. Posting your own top 15 will not count as a vote. Please cast your vote in the manner that I have done above.

[Tarkus]

Ortiz 4
Pulev 5
Joshua 6
Parker 7
Whyte 11
Chisora 12
Ruiz 14
Molina OUT
Allen OUT

[BitPlayer]

Ortiz to #7, Whyte to #11, Chisora to #11, Allen to #Champion .

The rest I'll abstain for now.

[keithmoonhangover]

Can we not discuss Fury as champion and Wlad's inactivity?

[Horse]

Can I vote for more than one fighter to move to the same position?

[jezzamundo]

Can we not discuss Fury as champion and Wlad's inactivity?

Not in this topic, but seeing as both have been inactive for over a year now, I'll make another topic about it soon.

Can I vote for more than one fighter to move to the same position?

Yes.

[keithmoonhangover]

Can we not discuss Fury as champion and Wlad's inactivity?

Not in this topic, but seeing as both have been inactive for over a year now, I'll make another topic about it soon.

Can I vote for more than one fighter to move to the same position?

Yes.

[Horse]

Kubrat Pulev - Down to No. 6
Joseph Parker - Up to No. 5
Andy Ruiz - Enters at No. 10
Dillian Whyte - Enters at No. 10
Dereck Chisora - Up to No. 10
Anthony Joshua - Stays at No. 7
Luis Ortiz - Stays at No. 4

The rest - Stay out


Jennings, Glazkov, Browne, Stiverne & Szpilka all seem a little high. I think that we need a mini clear-out at the bottom of the rankings.

I don't think that people should be too stingy with their rankings placements for the new guys.

[BitPlayer]

Kubrat Pulev - Down to No. 6
Joseph Parker - Up to No. 5
Andy Ruiz - Enters at No. 10
Dillian Whyte - Enters at No. 10
Dereck Chisora - Up to No. 10
Anthony Joshua - Stays at No. 7
Luis Ortiz - Stays at No. 4

The rest - Stay out


Jennings, Glazkov, Browne, Stiverne & Szpilka all seem a little high. I think that we need a mini clear-out at the bottom of the rankings.

I don't think that people should be too stingy with their rankings placements for the new guys.

Mayeb there could do with with the bottom 5 all getting voted on at the end of each year, it'd help let new guys in.

[dagilechia]

1. Anthony Joshua
2. Wladimir Klitschko
3. Alexander Povetkin
4. Deontay Wilder
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Luis Ortiz
7. Joseph Parker
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Carlos Takam
10. Vyacheslav Glazkov
11. Lucas Browne
12. Bermane Stiverne
13. Artur Szpilka
14. Dillian Whyte
15. Johann Duhaupas

my vote: Pulev 5, Peter unranked, Parker to 7, Ruiz unranked, Whyte to 14, Chisora out, Joshua to 1, Molina unranked, Ortiz to 6, Allen unranked

[BitPlayer]

1. Anthony Joshua
2. Wladimir Klitschko
3. Alexander Povetkin
4. Deontay Wilder
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Luis Ortiz
7. Joseph Parker
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Carlos Takam
10. Vyacheslav Glazkov
11. Lucas Browne
12. Bermane Stiverne
13. Artur Szpilka
14. Dillian Whyte
15. Johann Duhaupas

my vote: Pulev 5, Peter unranked, Parker to 7, Ruiz unranked, Whyte to 14, Chisora out, Joshua to 1, Molina unranked, Ortiz to 6, Allen unranked

How can Joshua go to 1 for beating someone non top 15, and when his best win wasagainst an injured version of a barely top 15 fighter?

[dagilechia]

1. Anthony Joshua
2. Wladimir Klitschko
3. Alexander Povetkin
4. Deontay Wilder
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Luis Ortiz
7. Joseph Parker
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Carlos Takam
10. Vyacheslav Glazkov
11. Lucas Browne
12. Bermane Stiverne
13. Artur Szpilka
14. Dillian Whyte
15. Johann Duhaupas

my vote: Pulev 5, Peter unranked, Parker to 7, Ruiz unranked, Whyte to 14, Chisora out, Joshua to 1, Molina unranked, Ortiz to 6, Allen unranked

How can Joshua go to 1 for beating someone non top 15, and when his best win wasagainst an injured version of a barely top 15 fighter?

for me Joshua has a better resume and better skills than Wilder and based on actual achievements and his future potential i think he already deserves 1st spot (Klitschko is retiring soon, Ortiz and Povetkin are old too). AJ, Povetkin, Ortiz and Wilder have beaten b-level fighters like Jennings Thompson Charr Takam Perez Wach Martin Breazeale Molina Stiverne Duhaupas Szpilka etc just AJ was the most impressive defeating them). who deserves the 1st spot more than AJ?

[dagilechia]

btw how about making such a ranking of Cruiserweight? it seems to be the most exciting division right now.

[Horse]

for me Joshua has a better resume and better skills than Wilder and based on actual achievements and his future potential i think he already deserves 1st spot (Klitschko is retiring soon, Ortiz and Povetkin are old too). AJ, Povetkin, Ortiz and Wilder have beaten b-level fighters like Jennings Thompson Charr Takam Perez Wach Martin Breazeale Molina Stiverne Duhaupas Szpilka etc just AJ was the most impressive defeating them). who deserves the 1st spot more than AJ?

[greg]

..I'm a bit confused when we have that many votes at the same time...

[Lennox]

Champion in Recess: Tyson Fury
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Anthony Joshua <up from 7>
4. Deontay Wilder
5. Joseph Parker <up from 6>
6. Luis Ortiz
7. Kubrat Pulev
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Carlos Takam
10. Vyacheslav Glazkov
11. Lucas Browne
12. Bermane Stiverne
13. Dillian Whyte <new>
14. Dereck Chisora
15. Arthur Spilka

[Tanzio]

BWH Rankings as of 10 November 2016:

Champion in Recess: Tyson Fury
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Luis Ortiz
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Joseph Parker
7. Anthony Joshua
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Carlos Takam
10. Vyacheslav Glazkov
11. Lucas Browne
12. Bermane Stiverne
13. Artur Szpilka
14. Dereck Chisora
15. Johann Duhaupas

Topic A - How are the rankings affected by Kubrat Pulev's RTD3 win over Samuel Peter?

My vote: Pulev to #6, Peter remains unranked.

Topic B - How are the rankings affected by Joseph Parker's MD12 win over Andy Ruiz?

My vote: Parker to #7, Ruiz to #15.

Topic C - How are the rankings affected by Dillian Whyte's SD12 win over Dereck Chisora?

My vote: Whyte to #10, Chisora to #14.

Topic D - How are the rankings affected by Anthony Joshua's TKO3 win over Eric Molina?

My vote: Joshua to #5, Molina remains unranked.

Topic E - How are the rankings affected by Luis Ortiz's TKO7 win over David Allen?

My vote: Ortiz to #4, Allen remains unranked.

Note: This topic is for voting on the rankings of Pulev, Peter, Parker, Ruiz, Whyte, Chisora, Joshua, Molina, Ortiz and Allen. Posting your own top 15 will not count as a vote. Please cast your vote in the manner that I have done above.

Topic A - Pulev to #4, Peter remains unranked.

Topic B - Parker to #5, Ruiz to #9.

Topic C - Whyte to #10, Chisora to #11.

Topic D - Joshua remains #7, Molina remains unranked.

Topic E - Ortiz to #6, Allen remains unranked.

[the_doctor]

Topic A - How are the rankings affected by Kubrat Pulev's RTD3 win over Samuel Peter?.
Pulev to #6

Topic B - How are the rankings affected by Joseph Parker's MD12 win over Andy Ruiz?
Parker to #7, Ruiz to #13

Topic C - How are the rankings affected by Dillian Whyte's SD12 win over Dereck Chisora?
Whyte to #14 Chisora to #15

Topic D - How are the rankings affected by Anthony Joshua's TKO3 win over Eric Molina?
Joshua to #4

Topic E - How are the rankings affected by Luis Ortiz's TKO7 win over David Allen?
Ortiz to #5, Allen stays unranked.

[Freedom2013]

Topic A - Pulev remains at #5, Peter remains unranked

Topic B - Parker to #11, Ruiz to #12 (Parker didn't look like a top 10 HW to me)

Topic C - Whyte to #14, Chisora out.

Topic D - Joshua to #3, Molina remains unranked (Joshua looked way better than Wilder, who has been inactive while most other HWs are fighting)

Topic E - Ortiz remains at #4, Allen remains unranked

[Heretic]

Topic A

No change.

Quality of opponent not good enough to change ranks.

Topic B

Parker to #9 Ruiz to #8 (Parker Between Takam and Jennings)

I had Ruiz winning the fight. I am voting accordingly. Both belong on the low end of top10. Ruiz would give tough fight to anyone on the list.

Topic C

Chisora to #12 Whyte to enter at #13

I had Chisora wining the fight. If Chisora would have gone for points win instead of trying to force the stoppage he would have won pretty easily. Whyte has great chin and good stamina. I think he should enter the list. I think he would win against Szpilka and Duhaupas.

Topic D

No change.

Quality of opponent not good enough to change ranks.

Topic E

No change.

Quality of opponent not good enough to change ranks.

[HyacinthusTurnipseed]

BWH Rankings as of 10 November 2016:

Champion in Recess: Tyson Fury
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Luis Ortiz
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Joseph Parker
7. Anthony Joshua
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Carlos Takam
10. Vyacheslav Glazkov
11. Lucas Browne
12. Bermane Stiverne
13. Artur Szpilka
14. Dereck Chisora
15. Johann Duhaupas

Topic A - How are the rankings affected by Kubrat Pulev's RTD3 win over Samuel Peter?

My vote: Pulev to #7, Peter remains unranked.

Topic B - How are the rankings affected by Joseph Parker's MD12 win over Andy Ruiz?

My vote: Parker to #6, Ruiz to #9

Topic C - How are the rankings affected by Dillian Whyte's SD12 win over Dereck Chisora?

My vote: Whyte to #11, Chisora to #12.

Topic D - How are the rankings affected by Anthony Joshua's TKO3 win over Eric Molina?

My vote: Joshua to #3, Molina remains unranked.

Topic E - How are the rankings affected by Luis Ortiz's TKO7 win over David Allen?

My vote: Ortiz to #5, Allen remains unranked.

Can we not discuss Fury as champion and Wlad's inactivity?

Not in this topic, but seeing as both have been inactive for over a year now, I'll make another topic about it soon.

Jennings is coming up to a year of inactivity as well.

[asdfjkl]

With this many new rankings, may we make a completely own top 15? Just in case with only the names on this list?

[jezzamundo]

With this many new rankings, may we make a completely own top 15? Just in case with only the names on this list?

Certainly not. These rankings are a ten year work-in-progress, I'm not going to disrespect everyone's efforts in voting for the past decade and start again fresh.

[Lennox]

With this many new rankings, may we make a completely own top 15? Just in case with only the names on this list?

Certainly not. These rankings are a ten year work-in-progress, I'm not going to disrespect everyone's efforts in voting for the past decade and start again fresh.

Having 5 topics and possibly 3 other, Wlad's, Jennings, Glazkov inactivity plus Browne may be suspended does cause a bit of a mess. Not sure how you are going to sort the voting out on this one, people just putting their up to 10 etc is not right because of fighters moving down etc.

[jezzamundo]

With this many new rankings, may we make a completely own top 15? Just in case with only the names on this list?

Certainly not. These rankings are a ten year work-in-progress, I'm not going to disrespect everyone's efforts in voting for the past decade and start again fresh.

Having 5 topics and possibly 3 other, Wlad's, Jennings, Glazkov inactivity plus Browne may be suspended does cause a bit of a mess. Not sure how you are going to sort the voting out on this one, people just putting their up to 10 etc is not right because of fighters moving down etc.

I agree it is harder to get your head around how to make a vote, but if people simply vote in the prescribed manner it will work.