Who is no.1 heavyweight

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1) Tyson Fury
2) Klitschko
3) Povetkin
4) Ortiz
5) Wilder
6) Joshua
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wesshaw1985 wrote:1) Tyson Fury
2) Klitschko
3) Povetkin
4) Ortiz
5) Wilder
6) Joshua
I'm sorry, but Tyson Fury is no longer part of the Heavyweight landscape.
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Fury
Joshua
Wilder
Klit
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Rob3_142 wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:1) Tyson Fury
2) Klitschko
3) Povetkin
4) Ortiz
5) Wilder
6) Joshua
I'm sorry, but Tyson Fury is no longer part of the Heavyweight landscape.
ignore number 1 and move everybody up one place then...
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thechump wrote:
Killer Blow wrote:
thechump wrote: I dont rate him as the best heavyweight,i think in a rematch klitachko would of beat him but apart from that wilder AJ browne andruiz jnr would beat fury imo
Browne wouldn't even beat Takam, Duahuaps or Jennings.
But imo browne would beat fury
if you think Browne beats Fury then your opinion becomes invalid imo...
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wesshaw1985 wrote:1) Tyson Fury
2) Klitschko
3) Povetkin
4) Ortiz
5) Wilder
6) Joshua
yeh thats my list too,if Fury goes out who comes into 5th?Haye or Pulev?

Ive always liked Stiverne,I know most people think he's sh!te but lets see how he performs in the Povetkin fight.He might not win but he could change a lot of peoples opinions in this,depending how he performs.Boxrec dont seem to have Stiverne ranked?
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LancashireLoyal wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:1) Tyson Fury
2) Klitschko
3) Povetkin
4) Ortiz
5) Wilder
6) Joshua
yeh thats my list too,if Fury goes out who comes into 5th?Haye or Pulev?

Ive always liked Stiverne,I know most people think he's sh!te but lets see how he performs in the Povetkin fight.He might not win but he could change a lot of peoples opinions in this,depending how he performs.Boxrec dont seem to have Stiverne ranked?
Stivernes ben out of the ring over a year, so boxrec doesn't rank him
Pulev goes in at 5. I think hes on equal footing with Ortiz, Wilder and Joshua opposition-win wise and he gives all 3 a tough fight. It could be debated he goes above all 3 depending on what style you favour...
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Based on activity AJ but I think the true number one is Fury lad better make a late 17' comeback
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wesshaw1985 wrote:
thechump wrote:
Killer Blow wrote:
Browne wouldn't even beat Takam, Duahuaps or Jennings.
But imo browne would beat fury
if you think Browne beats Fury then your opinion becomes invalid imo...
Well to be honest my opinion differs from urs so if u think fury is no.1 in the division active or not ur opinion is not valid buddy. When AJ destroys wklit in less than 4 rounds u will see just how sh1te fury's performance was against wklits,absolutley the worst ppv iv ever bought
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wesshaw1985 wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:1) Tyson Fury
2) Klitschko
3) Povetkin
4) Ortiz
5) Wilder
6) Joshua
I'm sorry, but Tyson Fury is no longer part of the Heavyweight landscape.
ignore number 1 and move everybody up one place then...
That's too complicated, please resubmit your list.
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Boxerbeetle wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
I'm sorry, but Tyson Fury is no longer part of the Heavyweight landscape.
ignore number 1 and move everybody up one place then...
That's too complicated, please resubmit your list.
I'm on it...
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Boxerbeetle wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
I'm sorry, but Tyson Fury is no longer part of the Heavyweight landscape.
ignore number 1 and move everybody up one place then...
That's too complicated, please resubmit your list.
:lol:
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Rob3_142 wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote: ignore number 1 and move everybody up one place then...
That's too complicated, please resubmit your list.
:lol:
Tyson fury was never number 1 for me,wklit would of got destroyed in quick fassion had he fought wilder or AJ that night,fury didnt want the rematch as he knew what was coming a nice big loss so he had to go and sniff a load of powder to get the fight cancelled hopeing klit will be retired wen he gets back
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thechump wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
That's too complicated, please resubmit your list.
:lol:
Tyson fury was never number 1 for me,wklit would of got destroyed in quick fassion had he fought wilder or AJ that night,fury didnt want the rematch as he knew what was coming a nice big loss so he had to go and sniff a load of powder to get the fight cancelled hopeing klit will be retired wen he gets back
You suit your name.
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Rexob wrote:
thechump wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
:lol:
Tyson fury was never number 1 for me,wklit would of got destroyed in quick fassion had he fought wilder or AJ that night,fury didnt want the rematch as he knew what was coming a nice big loss so he had to go and sniff a load of powder to get the fight cancelled hopeing klit will be retired wen he gets back
You suit your name.
Cheers mate :TU:
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Cannot see how Boxrec rates Ortiz as no 1 and was surprised they had Chisora no 8 before the Whyte fight
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london wrote:Cannot see how Boxrec rates Ortiz as no 1 and was surprised they had Chisora no 8 before the Whyte fight
Well Ortiz went from 175 -> 522 with the trio of wins against Jennings, Thompson and Scott. Although it's arguable that the three American's are not exactly pulling up trees, they are potentially better wins than the likes of Joshua, Wilder and Pulev have had recently. Who's had a better resume than Ortiz over the last 12 months?

Chisora on the other hand actually gained ground in the rankings with his split decision defeat to Pulev, and has just been hovering around in the top 15 for some time. Barring the two defeats to Fury, this was the first time that he's lost to someone lower ranked than him, and to someone as low as Whyte period. He's been very consistent in his performances.
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Rob3_142 wrote:
london wrote:Cannot see how Boxrec rates Ortiz as no 1 and was surprised they had Chisora no 8 before the Whyte fight
Well Ortiz went from 175 -> 522 with the trio of wins against Jennings, Thompson and Scott. Although it's arguable that the three American's are not exactly pulling up trees, they are potentially better wins than the likes of Joshua, Wilder and Pulev have had recently. Who's had a better resume than Ortiz over the last 12 months?

Chisora on the other hand actually gained ground in the rankings with his split decision defeat to Pulev, and has just been hovering around in the top 15 for some time. Barring the two defeats to Fury, this was the first time that he's lost to someone lower ranked than him, and to someone as low as Whyte period. He's been very consistent in his performances.
Plus the top 3 all being out for inactivity.
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london wrote:Cannot see how Boxrec rates Ortiz as no 1 and was surprised they had Chisora no 8 before the Whyte fight
Well, it's based on an algorithm which is very difficult to apply to boxing.

I think Joshua has to be number 1 at mo, bearing in mind Fury's inactivity and personal issues and Wlad's last fight being a comprehensive loss to Tyson.
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I'd say AJ. Even before the Fury Klitschko fight.
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I don't have one

Fury should be the man but he's walked away for now and I think there are fights out there that he loses
Wlad was the man, if he is still anywhere close to his best he's a risk for any of them (he's probably not though)
Joshua and Wilder can make their claim and have their obvious strengths and weaknesses. Need to step up
Ortiz and Haye might be fading or they might potentially have the tools to stop some of those names above
Parker for me is probably not going to be in that mix but a solid fighter none the less
I still really really rate Povetkin but is he the best? probably not


I honestly think if we got all the top names fighting each other we'd be no closer to a definitive answer, as there are various combinations of match ups there that I think one fighter would beat one guy but could make an argument for him losing to another

And there are far too many unanswered questions, between older fighter and what they still have left and younger fighters and whether they are more hype than substance, how will they look when they step up
We don't have these answers because too many of them have not fought each other
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davie wrote:I don't have one

Fury should be the man but he's walked away for now and I think there are fights out there that he loses
Wlad was the man, if he is still anywhere close to his best he's a risk for any of them (he's probably not though)
Joshua and Wilder can make their claim and have their obvious strengths and weaknesses. Need to step up
Ortiz and Haye might be fading or they might potentially have the tools to stop some of those names above
Parker for me is probably not going to be in that mix but a solid fighter none the less
I still really really rate Povetkin but is he the best? probably not


I honestly think if we got all the top names fighting each other we'd be no closer to a definitive answer, as there are various combinations of match ups there that I think one fighter would beat one guy but could make an argument for him losing to another

And there are far too many unanswered questions, between older fighter and what they still have left and younger fighters and whether they are more hype than substance, how will they look when they step up
We don't have these answers because too many of them have not fought each other
Spot on. Reality is, since Fury went into hibernation, there hasn't been a definitive number 1.

Only way to find out if for them to all fight each other. Klitschko-Joshua a great start. Hopefully Povetkin-Wilder can get done by next summer (if they keep winning). If the winners of those two fought you'd probably have the next man and the lineage could be continued.....
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I think AJ is the best
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crusader wrote:I think AJ is the best
I don't like him but I agree. I think haye and (fit, etc, thus unlikely) fury are the two major threats. I think Aj would deal with povetkin fairly easily and expect him to stop wlad.
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thechump wrote:
Killer Blow wrote:I suppose Fury but I still don't think he's the best heavyweight.
I dont rate him as the best heavyweight,i think in a rematch klitachko would of beat him but apart from that wilder AJ browne andruiz jnr would beat fury imo
Sorry mate but, what a lot of pish!
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