The WELTERWEIGHT game: *CLOSED*

[Crease]

I'm quite indecisive about my list. I'm probably going to put Mayweather in there, I just don't know where yet.
I do have my top 3 sorted, but the rest is a bit of a head melt. SRR 10, HA 9, SRL 8...
Let me think on this some more, before I put up my final 10.

[Crease]

Sugar Ray Robinson
Sugar Ray Leonard
Floyd Mayweather jnr
Emile Griffith
Manny Pacquiao
Tommy Hearns
Roberto Duran
Henry Armstrong
Jose Naples
Jack Britton
Ted kid Lewis

Lewis won't be scoring any pts for coming 11th on your list.

[Crease]

1. Barney Ross
2. Jimmy McLarnin
3. Sugar Ray Leonard
4. Sugar Ray Robinson
5. Kid Gavilan
6. Jose Napoles
7. Emile Griffith
8. Thomas Hearns
9. Carmen Basilio
10. Freddie Zivic
11. Henry Armstrong
12. Wilfred Benitez
13. Marty Servo

The above three don't get any pts for finishing outside the top 10.

[Keko]

Whoever has will make update that we see the result?

Patience is a virtue, my friend.

You're the boss.

[Crease]

You're the boss.

All of us are "the boss". We aint got a leader & we don't need one.

[APerno]

1. Barney Ross
2. Jimmy McLarnin
3. Sugar Ray Leonard
4. Sugar Ray Robinson
5. Kid Gavilan
6. Jose Napoles
7. Emile Griffith
8. Thomas Hearns
9. Carmen Basilio
10. Freddie Zivic
11. Henry Armstrong
12. Wilfred Benitez
13. Marty Servo

The above three don't get any pts for finishing outside the top 10.

Correct - just out of respect couldn't leave their names off - sorry for the confusion.

[Techno89]

My top ten is:

1.Sugar Ray Robinson
2.Henry Armstrong
3.Sugar Ray Leonard
4.Barney Ross
5.Emile Griffith
6.Thomas Hearns
7.Emile Griffith
8.Floyd Mayweather Jr
9.Kid Gavilan
10.Roberto Duran

[Keko]

It's amazing that there are so many points Hearns and Kid Lewis and Britton so little.

[Harrymonk36]

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Sugar Ray Leonard
3. Thomas Hearns
4. Henry Armstrong
5. Emile Griffith
6. Donald Curry
7. Jack Britton
8. Felix Trinidad
9. Jose Napoles
10. Ted Kid Lewis

[Seamus]

You got Griffith at 5 and 7 there Techno.

[Crease]

My top ten is:

1.Sugar Ray Robinson
2.Henry Armstrong
3.Sugar Ray Leonard
4.Barney Ross
5.Emile Griffith
6.Thomas Hearns
7.Emile Griffith
8.Floyd Mayweather Jr
9.Kid Gavilan
10.Roberto Duran

You pucked Griffith twice...
(As Seamus already pointed out)

[davie]

My top ten is:

1.Sugar Ray Robinson
2.Henry Armstrong
3.Sugar Ray Leonard
4.Barney Ross
5.Emile Griffith
6.Thomas Hearns
7.Emile Griffith
8.Floyd Mayweather Jr
9.Kid Gavilan
10.Roberto Duran

You pucked Griffith twice...
(As Seamus already pointed out)

I wonder if he thinks Griffith is better or worse than Tommy Hearns though?

[APerno]

My top ten is:

1.Sugar Ray Robinson
2.Henry Armstrong
3.Sugar Ray Leonard
4.Barney Ross
5.Emile Griffith
6.Thomas Hearns
7.Emile Griffith
8.Floyd Mayweather Jr
9.Kid Gavilan
10.Roberto Duran

You pucked Griffith twice...
(As Seamus already pointed out)

I wonder if he thinks Griffith is better or worse than Tommy Hearns though?

Maybe it depends which Griffith shows-up that night.

[davie]

You pucked Griffith twice...
(As Seamus already pointed out)

I wonder if he thinks Griffith is better or worse than Tommy Hearns though?

Maybe it depends which Griffith shows-up that night.

so does 5.Emile Griffith beat him on points?

I would assume 7.Emile Griffith loses by devastating KO

[Keko]

I really like Tommy Herarns but do not know how you see him in top5? I ask those who are in the top 5.
I do not see how this for the top 10 is very doubtful but at the top 5 is not impossible.

[APerno]

I wonder if he thinks Griffith is better or worse than Tommy Hearns though?

Maybe it depends which Griffith shows-up that night.

so does 5.Emile Griffith beat him on points?

I would assume 7.Emile Griffith loses by devastating KO

Carter mugged Griffith no doubt - I am not sure a welterweight Hearns could have overwhelmed Griffith, maybe.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He'd outbox Griffith.

[Ezzard]

1. Ray Robinson
2. Jack Britton
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Kid Lewis
5. Ray Leonard
6. Kid Gavilan
7. Emile Griffith
8. Barney Ross
9. Jose Napoles
10. Jimmy McLarnin

[APerno]

He'd outbox Griffith.

OK - certainly not unrealistic - though his chin was always suspect

what I find funny about Hearns is that he is one of those fighters whose career is best defined by his (few) defeats (over 67 fights) - putting aside the late lost to Grant, Hearns record reads: lost and drew to/with Leonard, lost to Hagler, lost twice to his personal nemesis Barkley - when that is all the negative you muster about a fighter, then you are calling him great.

[elmersalsa]

He'd outbox Griffith.

Something in my gut tells me that the great Emile Griffith could pulled it off. He was a very strong welterweight and could fight. I don't trust The Hitman's legs in this fight. The longer the fight, the better for Emile.

Also the great Kid Gavilan beats Tommy in my view at welterweight.

From 154lbs and above, though, I'll pick Tommy to beat both. He will win comfortably.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He'd outbox Griffith.

OK - certainly not unrealistic - though his chin was always suspect

what I find funny about Hearns is that he is one of those fighters whose career is best defined by his (few) defeats (over 67 fights) - putting aside the late lost to Grant, Hearns record reads: lost and drew to/with Leonard, lost to Hagler, lost twice to his personal nemesis Barkley - when that is all the negative you muster about a fighter, then you are calling him great.

He did quite a bit more than that.

[crl333]

1. Robinson
2. Leonard
3. Armstrong
4. Gavilan
5. Griffith
6. Ross
7. Britton
8. Lewis
9. Mayweather
10 Napoles

[APerno]

He'd outbox Griffith.

OK - certainly not unrealistic - though his chin was always suspect

what I find funny about Hearns is that he is one of those fighters whose career is best defined by his (few) defeats (over 67 fights) - putting aside the late lost to Grant, Hearns record reads: lost and drew to/with Leonard, lost to Hagler, lost twice to his personal nemesis Barkley - when that is all the negative you muster about a fighter, then you are calling him great.

He did quite a bit more than that.

Of course he did - my point being he is one of those odd characters where you don't have to talk of his successes to denote greatness - you can talk of his failures and the greatness still shines through - maybe I don't know how to express what i am trying to say.

[keithmoonhangover]

You're the boss.

All of us are "the boss". We aint got a leader & we don't need one.

Yes boss.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

OK - certainly not unrealistic - though his chin was always suspect

what I find funny about Hearns is that he is one of those fighters whose career is best defined by his (few) defeats (over 67 fights) - putting aside the late lost to Grant, Hearns record reads: lost and drew to/with Leonard, lost to Hagler, lost twice to his personal nemesis Barkley - when that is all the negative you muster about a fighter, then you are calling him great.

He did quite a bit more than that.

Of course he did - my point being he is one of those odd characters where you don't have to talk of his successes to denote greatness - you can talk of his failures and the greatness still shines through - maybe I don't know how to express what i am trying to say.

sorry, I misconstrued your post.