Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
geronimo wrote:Strange match. We have a 51 years old fighter who doesn't fight since 2014. In the other side we have a young fighter wha has defeated a world class fighter like Fonfara. But is the only importnat fight of his career. Every one knows the incredible defense skills of B-Hop, but is very old for sport now. The probabilities that Hopkins will lose, for me, are high. Even by KO, although he never lost in that way.
He went 12 with Kovalev. And now this (pre Fonfara, unknown) bum is gonna knock him out? B-Hop would still win & go the distance with him at 55.
So, what do have to say now man?
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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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I reckon Hopkins will get knocked out of the ring with a few explosive punches, failing to make the 20 count, then blaming smith for pushing him out of the ring.
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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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I'm glad that cry-baby is finally out of the game... Every time Hopkins loses he has a poopfit... He insisted Smith pushed him out of the ring when nothing like that happened... Smith was too strong for him and punched him out of the ring... He cried like a baby when Dawson and Calzaghe beat him too... I'm glad he's gone... Roy Jones said, "There was no pushing... But Bernard is going to be Bernard... He doesn't like to lose." ... Who does??? Show some sportsmanship.
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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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geronimo wrote:
PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
geronimo wrote:Strange match. We have a 51 years old fighter who doesn't fight since 2014. In the other side we have a young fighter wha has defeated a world class fighter like Fonfara. But is the only importnat fight of his career. Every one knows the incredible defense skills of B-Hop, but is very old for sport now. The probabilities that Hopkins will lose, for me, are high. Even by KO, although he never lost in that way.
He went 12 with Kovalev. And now this (pre Fonfara, unknown) bum is gonna knock him out? B-Hop would still win & go the distance with him at 55.
So, what do have to say now man?
If my little sister shoved him out of the ring, she would also beat Hopkins by stoppage.
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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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Are some people so God Damn brain dead they believe that was anything close to a push?
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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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I think Hopkins probably thought that he was pushed out of the ring. Naturally once he watches the replay back he'll see that wasn't the case, but I don't think he was "looking for a way out" or anything based on how he reacted once on his feet again.
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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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It was no push, but you can't blame Hopkins for the suggestion. He was understandably groggy and disappointed.

While it ended up being a clean win for Hopkins, different circumstances such as a couple feet of ring canvas outside the ring like some rings have could have given us a different result.

But if if if
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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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SFW wrote:Are some people so God Damn brain dead they believe that was anything close to a push?
Evidently that is preferable to admitting you picked a fight wrong or just ignoring someone gloating about being right. :maybe:
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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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SFW wrote:Are some people so God Damn brain dead they believe that was anything close to a push?

Brilliant :lol:
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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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Tony1244 wrote:It was no push, but you can't blame Hopkins for the suggestion. He was understandably groggy and disappointed.

While it ended up being a clean win for Hopkins, different circumstances such as a couple feet of ring canvas outside the ring like some rings have could have given us a different result.

But if if if
He didn't even try to break his fall which makes me think he was out of it from the punches at least enough that he just went straight back landing on his back and maybe hitting his head. It was funny hearing him say his ankle was sprained when he was feet up. What a shame to end his career like that. He should have called it a career several years ago.
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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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JMac wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:It was no push, but you can't blame Hopkins for the suggestion. He was understandably groggy and disappointed.

While it ended up being a clean win for Hopkins, different circumstances such as a couple feet of ring canvas outside the ring like some rings have could have given us a different result.

But if if if
He didn't even try to break his fall which makes me think he was out of it from the punches at least enough that he just went straight back landing on his back and maybe hitting his head. It was funny hearing him say his ankle was sprained when he was feet up. What a shame to end his career like that. He should have called it a career several years ago.

Disappointing ending as they thought Hopkins was getting back into it a bit. Of course, in his prime he had would have had Smith for lunch.
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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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Tony1244 wrote:
JMac wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:It was no push, but you can't blame Hopkins for the suggestion. He was understandably groggy and disappointed.

While it ended up being a clean win for Hopkins, different circumstances such as a couple feet of ring canvas outside the ring like some rings have could have given us a different result.

But if if if
He didn't even try to break his fall which makes me think he was out of it from the punches at least enough that he just went straight back landing on his back and maybe hitting his head. It was funny hearing him say his ankle was sprained when he was feet up. What a shame to end his career like that. He should have called it a career several years ago.

Disappointing ending as they thought Hopkins was getting back into it a bit. Of course, in his prime he had would have had Smith for lunch.
He was starting to land the right hand as he was loosening up. I couldn't believe how bad he looked in the first 2 rounds. His movement looked like a novice amateur and was embarrassing. Boxing is a young mans sport, not for 50 years old and I think in his prime he would have torn Joe up.
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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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JMac wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
JMac wrote: He didn't even try to break his fall which makes me think he was out of it from the punches at least enough that he just went straight back landing on his back and maybe hitting his head. It was funny hearing him say his ankle was sprained when he was feet up. What a shame to end his career like that. He should have called it a career several years ago.

Disappointing ending as they thought Hopkins was getting back into it a bit. Of course, in his prime he had would have had Smith for lunch.
He was starting to land the right hand as he was loosening up. I couldn't believe how bad he looked in the first 2 rounds. His movement looked like a novice amateur and was embarrassing. Boxing is a young mans sport, not for 50 years old and I think in his prime he would have torn Joe up.

I agree with pretty much all that but even when Hopkins was in his prime he looked bad in the first few rounds. Maybe not as bad as he looked last night early though.
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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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Rexob wrote:I reckon Hopkins will get knocked out of the ring with a few explosive punches, failing to make the 20 count, then blaming smith for pushing him out of the ring.
You forgot to mention he hurt his ankle falling on his back and head, but walked back to his dressing room without a limp.
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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
geronimo wrote:
PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
He went 12 with Kovalev. And now this (pre Fonfara, unknown) bum is gonna knock him out? B-Hop would still win & go the distance with him at 55.
So, what do have to say now man?
If my little sister shoved him out of the ring, she would also beat Hopkins by stoppage.
Punches are pushes now? I saw 3 or 4 clean punches KNOCK Hopkins out of the ring, I didn't see 1 push.
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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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gilgamesh wrote:
PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
geronimo wrote:
So, what do have to say now man?
If my little sister shoved him out of the ring, she would also beat Hopkins by stoppage.
Punches are pushes now? I saw 3 or 4 clean punches KNOCK Hopkins out of the ring, I didn't see 1 push.
I didn't say he was pushed.
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Re: Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith - Dec 17

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PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
If my little sister shoved him out of the ring, she would also beat Hopkins by stoppage.
Punches are pushes now? I saw 3 or 4 clean punches KNOCK Hopkins out of the ring, I didn't see 1 push.
I didn't say he was pushed.
You implied it
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