Chavez Sr: Canelo, Golden Boy are Offering Crumbs To My Son!

[Ruthless-RKO]

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The legendary Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. is not pleased with the money being offered to his son, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (49-2-1, 32KOs), for an HBO Pay-Per-View mega-fight with Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez (48-1-1, 34KOs) on May 6th.

Golden Boy Promotions, who guide Canelo's career, presented an initial offer to Chavez Jr. - and a counter-offer was issued back. The two sides are still negotiating the financial terms.

According to Chavez Sr. - Golden Boy and Canelo are "only offering crumbs" to his son. Chavez Sr. would not reveal the dollar amount, but there are sources who believe Golden Boy's initial offer was a purse of $5 million. There is no confirmation on whether or not Chavez Jr. would also receive a percentage of the pay-per-view revenue.

"What they are offering does not suit us. Oscar De La Hoya, Golden Boy and Canelo have to put up a reasonable amount [of money], because truthfully what they are offering does not suit us. We will not accept crumbs. We are not going to do what they want. And if they continue with that position - then there will be no fight," Chavez Sr. stated. As far as the weight, Chavez Sr. makes it clear that they won't agree to anything under a catch-weight of 165. Chavez Jr. would come down by three pounds and Canelo would move up by eleven pounds. He also says Canelo and Golden Boy are requesting a rematch clause.

"The fight would be at 165 pounds. We are not going to do anything less than that," said Chavez Sr. "They are asking for a rematch clause too, we have no problem with that."

[Ruthless-RKO]

This is typical from GBP.. First offering GGG $10m for a blockbuster ppv..

Now I haven't followed JCC jr.'s career. But I know this fight will be a massive hit for the Latino's.

They've even put a rematch clause in there, isn;t this supposed to be a tune up for a GGG fight in the fall?

$5m!! what a joke!

I can see this doing around 500,000 buys.. and possibly at the Azteca..

[ClivePatrickLyons]

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The legendary Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. is not pleased with the money being offered to his son, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (49-2-1, 32KOs), for an HBO Pay-Per-View mega-fight with Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez (48-1-1, 34KOs) on May 6th.

Golden Boy Promotions, who guide Canelo's career, presented an initial offer to Chavez Jr. - and a counter-offer was issued back. The two sides are still negotiating the financial terms.

According to Chavez Sr. - Golden Boy and Canelo are "only offering crumbs" to his son. Chavez Sr. would not reveal the dollar amount, but there are sources who believe Golden Boy's initial offer was a purse of $5 million. There is no confirmation on whether or not Chavez Jr. would also receive a percentage of the pay-per-view revenue.

"What they are offering does not suit us. Oscar De La Hoya, Golden Boy and Canelo have to put up a reasonable amount [of money], because truthfully what they are offering does not suit us. We will not accept crumbs. We are not going to do what they want. And if they continue with that position - then there will be no fight," Chavez Sr. stated. As far as the weight, Chavez Sr. makes it clear that they won't agree to anything under a catch-weight of 165. Chavez Jr. would come down by three pounds and Canelo would move up by eleven pounds. He also says Canelo and Golden Boy are requesting a rematch clause.

"The fight would be at 165 pounds. We are not going to do anything less than that," said Chavez Sr. "They are asking for a rematch clause too, we have no problem with that."

Now you know what GGG feels like why don't Chavez tell Golden boy to get effed and make GGG v Chavez Jr that'll fuc'm

[gilgamesh]

Chavez Jr. doesn't deserve much more than crumbs for this fight. His career has been basically irrelevant since the Fonfara defeat.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Chavez Jr. doesn't deserve much more than crumbs for this fight. His career has been basically irrelevant since the Fonfara defeat.

What about everyone else they offer shit money top the greedy c,nts

[Nightmare Roy]

$5m is more than many great champions will earn in a career, he's lucky to be offered that, he's a clown.

[dickbelden]

JR should b offered a %---not a flat fee---that is how PPVs r done. if he thinks the % is too low then no fight.

[Lackeos]

After JCC Jr. lost to Fonfara, I don't think he's going to earn $5 million against anyone else. Taking the $5 million against Alvarez is probably a solid move for him right now. He's too heavy to try to make a fight with Cotto and earn similar numbers. The only other option is get some more decent wins on the resume and then try to renegotiate for more money, which DLH would probably be open to paying more if JCC Jr. had better momentum.

JR should b offered a %---not a flat fee---that is how PPVs r done. if he thinks the % is too low then no fight.

That can be how it's done, when both fighters are attractions. That's not necessarily how it's done when half of the ticket doesn't bring much to the table, i.e. Liam Smith. No doubt JCC Jr. would have commanded more respect when he was undefeated, but now he's in a pathetic slump and his drawing power has suffered. More importantly, DLH is probably making offers to about 1-2 dozen potential opponents. He's not single-mindedly stuck on doing whatever it takes to land JCC Jr. specifically. He's trying to find out which opponent is most willing to make the most enticing fight for the most enticing contract. If Jr. accepts $5 million, then he's made a move that DLH can't refuse. If JCC Jr. wants to negotiate for more, possibly much more, then DLH might get a better value by going with a different opponent.

$5m is more than many great champions will earn in a career, he's lucky to be offered that, he's a clown.

That's kind of an exaggeration. Mediocre titlists tend to breach $1 million per fight sometimes, and certain good champions like Wladimir get about $10 million every time they fight. I'm tempted to say that $5 million is less than 85-90% of titlists make in a career, and less than pretty much 100% of "great champions" make in a career in the modern era. Usually the titlists who make less than $5 million in a career are the lower weight fighters who have a semi-short run at a world class level, and the mediocre to decent fighters who only have one championship fight before they get seriously injured and have to retire.

[caldo2025]

Chavez Jr and Sr are delirious to think that they will make this kind of money again without Canelo. Granted, I think that $5m is pretty low for what the fight could generate in revenue on the weekend of Cinco De Mayo. GB and Canelo SHOULD sweeten the offer because there's more dough to go around but I think that the Chavez Clan is going to be a big problem with signing this one. They think the world really still cares about them for some reason.

[Enlightened-One]

$5m is more than many great champions will earn in a career, he's lucky to be offered that, he's a clown.

That’s a redundant point.

Boxing is a business and the size of paydays is decided using commercial factors, such as revenue generation ability. Talent and legacy do not directly decide the size of fight purses awarded to fighters.

[T w_savage]

Just how much did Chavez earn for his last fight? What's his projected earnings for his next fight if not facing Canelo?

What's his advarage purse over his last 5 fights?



Apply same steps to canelo GGG ...

The logical answer is both Chavez and to a lesser extent GGG are way over valuing themselves.

Chavez should accept 5-7 million GGG should accept 10-15 million , these amounts have been offered ( apparently) so both need to sign or stop moaning about the fights not happening.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Just how much did Chavez earn for his last fight? What's his projected earnings for his next fight if not facing Canelo?

What's his advarage purse over his last 5 fights?



Apply same steps to canelo GGG ...

The logical answer is both Chavez and to a lesser extent GGG are way over valuing themselves.

Chavez should accept 5-7 million GGG should accept 10-15 million , these amounts have been offered ( apparently) so both need to sign or stop moaning about the fights not happening.

Canelo was reportedly paid $13m for his fight against Mayweather. GGG is more known to the public today than Canelo was knock to the public when he fought Mayweather.

[gilgamesh]

Just how much did Chavez earn for his last fight? What's his projected earnings for his next fight if not facing Canelo?

What's his advarage purse over his last 5 fights?



Apply same steps to canelo GGG ...

The logical answer is both Chavez and to a lesser extent GGG are way over valuing themselves.

Chavez should accept 5-7 million GGG should accept 10-15 million , these amounts have been offered ( apparently) so both need to sign or stop moaning about the fights not happening.

Canelo was reportedly paid $13m for his fight against Mayweather. GGG is more known to the public today than Canelo was knock to the public when he fought Mayweather.

Yeah, but Canelo ain't Mayweather

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Yeah, but Canelo ain't Mayweather

Some people don't realize things like this.
It's like denying Tyson was popular.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Canelo can go and get his ass handed to him by the Charlo brother's Andrade/Lara and the rest of the next level guy's Golden boy carry on like he's undefeated this is the same fighter that was losing when getting outboxed by a little welterweight in Khan and won a very close dec against Lara when a lot of people had him losing that fight and lets not get Golden boy's problem its called amnesia remember he got absolutely schooled like i'v never seen in 40 year's by Mayweather in a fight that was suppose to be the biggest fight in boxing how much will Canelo make if he is forced to fight lesser know fighter's like i'v already mentioned no where near the predicted $50/$100 million in fight's against GGG and in Mexico a fight against Chavez Jr is the biggest you can possibly make for Canelo and Golden boy will feel good because Canelo will be the odd maker's pick to win the actual fight they will get 100 thousand fan's interested in attending the fight and not just to watch Canelo it will be to watch the son of Mexico's biggest boxing star in Chavez Sr its will take 2 very popular fighter's to get 100 thousand people through the gate's cheeze Canelo would be lucky to fill a Mexican Taco bar with his last two very predicable opponent's I cannot wait for someone to put Golden Boy and their Golden Goose in his place hopefully where ever that place is Canelo will be snoring

[Badhusker]

I think anything less than, up to a million is fair. Chavez Jr. hasn't done a lot lately, so he can't expect to get paid based on his old man's name.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

I think anything less than, up to a million is fair. Chavez Jr. hasn't done a lot lately, so he can't expect to get paid based on his old man's name.

Wether you or me like it or not boxing and what you get payed is not just based on your fighting talent its how popular you are I think those two Chavez guy's have thousand's up on thousand's of follower's in Mexico Golden boy need to get their head out of there ass its a popularity contest of sort's then we'll see who wins the fight Team Canelo need to stop holding every man and their dog for ransom these people are maggot's.