There are some rumours that ODLH made a 15 mill. flat offer to GGG

[man]

I highly doubt that this is true. I think that GGG would probably jump all over that money if it meant that he'd finally get him into the ring don't you think? Sure, Canelo would be making a ton more but I think that this kind of deal is the only way this one gets done. So GGG has to look at 15m or nothing at this point. Considering this is an easy nights work for him, i'd think he'd be crazy to not drop everything and sign that one.

GGG is craving for a fight like this, since
he is approaching the end of his prime.
not terribly dangerous opponent with a
bigger purse than he used to have ...
he takes this without blinking too often.

is it shady? sure! but every business is
like that. the better man doesn't always
have more negotiation power.

[Enlightened-One]

If this is true and Oscar is serious then GGG should take it. Probably ODLH and Canelo would make 100 millions from this fight but 15 for GGG ain't peanuts. Canelo made less money when he fought FMJ and Cotto. Anyway it may be just bull$hit and nothing more.

Golovkin would be the draw... He just hasn't had an opponent... Oscar knows this fight will pull 2 million PPV's... Golovkin needs 50/50 at least.. They''ll make 30 or 40 million each -- or the fight won't happen... I wouldn't let anybody screw me when I'm the better fighter.

At most, Golovkin should only expect a 35% split of the total fight purse since he's the B-side fighter. There is no evidence of GGG's PPV popularity
anywhere near approaching Canelo's in the US.

The GGG-Brook bout only generated $11.1m in PPV revenue, but the lower-profile Canelo-Smith fight generated $19.5m. Meaning that the K2 event only achieved 56% of the numbers achieved by the GBP-promoted bout.

And these numbers must be considered in the context that Brook is a much higher profile fighter than Smith that also competed on home turf, which bolstered the figures.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I highly doubt that this is true. I think that GGG would probably jump all over that money if it meant that he'd finally get him into the ring don't you think? Sure, Canelo would be making a ton more but I think that this kind of deal is the only way this one gets done. So GGG has to look at 15m or nothing at this point. Considering this is an easy nights work for him, i'd think he'd be crazy to not drop everything and sign that one.

I think Canelo would UD GGG. GGG is old and he's easy to hit.

You've got two guys with the same style coming forward at each other and you think that Canelo's power and speed will top GGG's head to head? Not even close. Canelo's not running from anyone and MW can't stand in front of GGG so what makes you think a midget like Canelo can?

The only style that can beat GGG's is a Lara type fighter with premier boxing ability and the stamina to keep moving non stop or 12 rounds like he did against Canelo. But even Lara isn't good enough to do it. So i'm basically saying that this person does not exist. They might be making him in a lab somewhere but he's not walking around today.

Canelo is hardly a midget.

I think it will be a tough fight if it happens, Canelo has a very good chin, and is an underrated technician. I'd of course favour GGG, but I don't think it will be an easy night's work.

[caldo2025]

I think Canelo would UD GGG. GGG is old and he's easy to hit.

You've got two guys with the same style coming forward at each other and you think that Canelo's power and speed will top GGG's head to head? Not even close. Canelo's not running from anyone and MW can't stand in front of GGG so what makes you think a midget like Canelo can?

The only style that can beat GGG's is a Lara type fighter with premier boxing ability and the stamina to keep moving non stop or 12 rounds like he did against Canelo. But even Lara isn't good enough to do it. So i'm basically saying that this person does not exist. They might be making him in a lab somewhere but he's not walking around today.

Nope, guys like Lara are GGG's favorite dish. Canelo is a top level combination puncher with good speed and a solid beard. GGG would have a tough, tough night.

Nope. The more stationary the target, the more damage GGG does. Canelo's combo's are fantastic and he's a top counter puncher but he's average defensively. He's always so much heavier than his opponent come fight night that he can afford to take a shot or two to give one. He can't do that against GGG. Canelo is not good enough defensively to last long enough for his crooked judges to steal this one away from GGG.

[scallum2015]

Ward - Kovalev made something like $8 million, and that was basically the best possible fight in the world at any weight. So go easy on the $100 million estimates. Alvarez - Golovkin seems like it would be a $25 million fight to me.

It is never about "best possible fight" from a level and competitiveness standpoint. Neither Ward, nor even Kovalev can compare in drawing power with Golovkin to say nothing of Canelo who is currently the biggest draw in the sport. With good promotion, Canelo vs Golovkin could do 1.5-2 mil ppv sales.

No way it does 1m ppv. Cotto vs Canelo 2 much bigger stars and the Mexico vs Puerto Rico thingy didnt do 1.5. Ppv for boxing is on its last breath. There are like dozens of Boxing websites that offer free live streaming of ppvs

[SaadOffTheDeck]

There has always been ways to watch ppv for free. It's dead because America couldn't give two fucks about boxing and the fighters are too overpaid to justify casino or cable money. Pretty much the point of no return to being a big-time sport in this country ever again.

[Shirow]

People should stop listening to this type of rumour and remember that binding offers are never given in boxing for fights unless they are next. If in the unlikely event GGG is pancaked by Jacobs then his value is reduced and the offer would change or disappear.
If Oscar came staggering out of a hooker's apartment full of coke and vodka one day and made this offer Tom would probably know to disregard it or at least run it past the guys in the GB office.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Anyone see what Floyd did to Canelo he put him through playschool/high school/University all in the one night I have never never seen such a one way supposed super-fight Oscar must have amnesia

[lefty]

If this is true and Oscar is serious then GGG should take it. Probably ODLH and Canelo would make 100 millions from this fight but 15 for GGG ain't peanuts. Canelo made less money when he fought FMJ and Cotto. Anyway it may be just bull$hit and nothing more.

Golovkin would be the draw... He just hasn't had an opponent... Oscar knows this fight will pull 2 million PPV's... Golovkin needs 50/50 at least.. They''ll make 30 or 40 million each -- or the fight won't happen... I wouldn't let anybody screw me when I'm the better fighter.

This is the kind of shit I'm talking about Crusader.

[gilgamesh]

If this is true and Oscar is serious then GGG should take it. Probably ODLH and Canelo would make 100 millions from this fight but 15 for GGG ain't peanuts. Canelo made less money when he fought FMJ and Cotto. Anyway it may be just bull$hit and nothing more.

Golovkin would be the draw... He just hasn't had an opponent... Oscar knows this fight will pull 2 million PPV's... Golovkin needs 50/50 at least.. They''ll make 30 or 40 million each -- or the fight won't happen... I wouldn't let anybody screw me when I'm the better fighter.

This is the kind of poo I'm talking about Crusader.

2 Million PPV's?

[lefty]

Golovkin would be the draw... He just hasn't had an opponent... Oscar knows this fight will pull 2 million PPV's... Golovkin needs 50/50 at least.. They''ll make 30 or 40 million each -- or the fight won't happen... I wouldn't let anybody screw me when I'm the better fighter.

This is the kind of poo I'm talking about Crusader.

2 Million PPV's?

These are the rabid Golovkin fans I'm talking about lol. You're a reasonable fan of Golovkin and there's others on here that are also reasonable fans of him but this shit is nonsense.

[Lackeos]

Ward - Kovalev made something like $8 million, and that was basically the best possible fight in the world at any weight. So go easy on the $100 million estimates. Alvarez - Golovkin seems like it would be a $25 million fight to me.

It is never about "best possible fight" from a level and competitiveness standpoint. Neither Ward, nor even Kovalev can compare in drawing power with Golovkin to say nothing of Canelo who is currently the biggest draw in the sport. With good promotion, Canelo vs Golovkin could do 1.5-2 mil ppv sales.

No way it does 1m ppv. Cotto vs Canelo 2 much bigger stars and the Mexico vs Puerto Rico thingy didnt do 1.5. Ppv for boxing is on its last breath. There are like dozens of Boxing websites that offer free live streaming of ppvs

I think it's a good point to bring-up Alvarez - Cotto, and I think Alvarez - Cotto would probably outsell Alvarez - Golovkin. The fact is, Cotto is a significantly bigger draw than Golovkin. Cotto has actually helped sell 4.555 million ppv buys in his career, whereas Golovkin has only sold 0.15 million ppv buys. I also agree that Mexican - Puerto Rican match-ups will outsell Mexican - Kazakh match-ups, all things being equal. Alvarez - Golovkin might be the more important match-up in boxing terms, but I think boxing importance will not matter as much as raw drawing power, just as it never has in the past. Anyways, Alvarez - Cotto did 900k. Alvarez - Lara only did 300k, and it was arguably as important to boxing as Alvarez - Golovkin would be. Alvarez - Khan did 600k, which goes to demonstrate the importance of raw drawing power in comparison to importance to the sport. I think Alvarez - Golovkin would probably also do about 600 - 700k.

[nuthin4sumpthin]

If this is true and Oscar is serious then GGG should take it. Probably ODLH and Canelo would make 100 millions from this fight but 15 for GGG ain't peanuts. Canelo made less money when he fought FMJ and Cotto. Anyway it may be just bull$hit and nothing more.

When? Are you talking about a fight in September 2017? You know it's not even January 2017 yet, right?

[Kalan]

It is never about "best possible fight" from a level and competitiveness standpoint. Neither Ward, nor even Kovalev can compare in drawing power with Golovkin to say nothing of Canelo who is currently the biggest draw in the sport. With good promotion, Canelo vs Golovkin could do 1.5-2 mil ppv sales.

No way it does 1m ppv. Cotto vs Canelo 2 much bigger stars and the Mexico vs Puerto Rico thingy didnt do 1.5. Ppv for boxing is on its last breath. There are like dozens of Boxing websites that offer free live streaming of ppvs

I think it's a good point to bring-up Alvarez - Cotto, and I think Alvarez - Cotto would probably outsell Alvarez - Golovkin. The fact is, Cotto is a significantly bigger draw than Golovkin. Cotto has actually helped sell 4.555 million ppv buys in his career, whereas Golovkin has only sold 0.15 million ppv buys. I also agree that Mexican - Puerto Rican match-ups will outsell Mexican - Kazakh match-ups, all things being equal. Alvarez - Golovkin might be the more important match-up in boxing terms, but I think boxing importance will not matter as much as raw drawing power, just as it never has in the past. Anyways, Alvarez - Cotto did 900k. Alvarez - Lara only did 300k, and it was arguably as important to boxing as Alvarez - Golovkin would be. Alvarez - Khan did 600k, which goes to demonstrate the importance of raw drawing power in comparison to importance to the sport. I think Alvarez - Golovkin would probably also do about 600 - 700k.

Golovkin-Alvarez would blow out any fight out there... That's the biggest fight in the world... People knew Cotto wasn't competitive with Alvarez.

[Enlightened-One]

Golovkin-Alvarez would blow out any fight out there... That's the biggest fight in the world...

In the context of PPV buys, which was the reason you submitted this post… there’s an argument that, in the US, Canelo-Chavez Jr. could achieve similar numbers to Canelo-GGG.

Also, in the UK, Joshua-Klitchko and Brook-Khan would both likely be able to compete with the sort of revenue that could be generated by GGG-Canelo.

I’m not suggesting that Canelo-Chavez Jr., Joshua-Klitchko and Brook-Khan would be bigger events than Canelo-GGG, but I do feel that these fights could generate similar ball-park numbers.

[crusader]

If this is true and Oscar is serious then GGG should take it. Probably ODLH and Canelo would make 100 millions from this fight but 15 for GGG ain't peanuts. Canelo made less money when he fought FMJ and Cotto. Anyway it may be just bull$hit and nothing more.

Golovkin would be the draw... He just hasn't had an opponent... Oscar knows this fight will pull 2 million PPV's... Golovkin needs 50/50 at least.. They''ll make 30 or 40 million each -- or the fight won't happen... I wouldn't let anybody screw me when I'm the better fighter.

This is the kind of poo I'm talking about Crusader.

So what? We all know there are some unrealistic GGG fanatics out there, just like there are people who jump from one negative to the other about him but still act like they're being impartial.

And by the way, maybe in the future you should read my positions more closely before you post nonsense like you did in the Jacobs-GGG PPV numbers thread.

[BitPlayer]

You should stop seeing yourself Golovkin's manager and let Golovkin and his his real manager make decisions. I hope they don't agree to 15% of the potential purse.

If GGG actually didn't accept this, then the claims about Canelo ducking GGG would be dead to me. If GGG won he could make more in a rematch too. Canelo is just a bigger name.

[crusader]

Seen some reports that GGG will get $15m guaranteed and a PPV cut...these articles are predicting that GGG will end up with around $25m (or more), but take them for what you will....I'm not sure if their info or computations are accurate. If they are even remotely close, it has to be considered a big financial win for GGG. I mean it's not Peter Quillin money ( ), but still.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2017/ ... inner-get/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmaziq ... 7466b9438e

http://www.totalsportek.com/boxing/cane ... kin-purse/

[crusader]

Seems the reported base purses (not the same thing as overall guarantees) are $5m Canelo and $3M GGG. Rafael suggests that they'll both earn well into 8 figures.....