the heavies are an embarrassment

[man]

A punk wouldnt knock out all but one opponent in 30+ Fights and its not easy becoming world heavyweight champion is it?

wilder's ascent to the WBC belt was among
the easiest ever in my opinion and i still need
to see one dangerous opponent he is willing
to face. i mean really willing to face not just
talk about it.

I hear you but its still not east to knock out all youe opponents in the lead up to your title fight is it

no, it isn't. which is why i do not criticise
wilder for lack of ability but for lack of
willingness to take on dangerous bouts.

he is a terrific fighter, but look at his next
opponent. this is clearly looking for a guy
with a next to perfect record on paper that
doesn't have any real meaning.

and yes, you can do that on your way up,
but please, these now are no title defences,
these look like tune ups for bigger things to
come ... which then actually never do come.

this is embarrassing. his opposition is on
the level of shannon briggs at this point.
the wbc belt holder refuses to fight top
ten fighers. this is simply ridiculous and
it is even more as he probably indeed has
the talent to defeat top ten fighters.

he is 31 now. this is his prime and this
is how he spends it.

[T w_savage]

You're ignorant and stupid at the same time you idiot... There are no "technicalities" in drug testing... Either you're OVER the allowable concentration or you PASS the test because you're UNDER the allowable concentration... Povetkin had 1/15th of the allowable concentration in his sample for one test so he passed very easily.. They found no trace in his other tests which is perfectly normal.. You might test with no trace in one or more tests that you pass -- and with a tiny but allowable trace in your next test because you're less hydrated.. For dummies like you, that means you drank more water prior to some tests which diluted the level a bit so no trace was found.. The tests allow for this variance and Povetkin very easily passed all of them. I microgram was the allowable concentration and he had a small fraction of that in 1 test.. That was consistent with somebody not taking Meldonium since the news came out that it would be banned the 1st of this year.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?a=&feature= ... 17etHLyG9I


Oh the pieces a paper he's reading from are a matter of public record.. So people really intrested can reference the actual evidence and testimony themselves rather that rely on a video.

Here is wada ruling on the drug it's self...

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/resources/s ... il-13-2016

And addressing povetkin..,

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2016/08/wbc ... etkin/amp/

And addressing stiverne test from earlier in the year..,

http://www.BS.com/bermane-stiv ... ce--110737

Montero is an idiot who doesn't have a clue... VADA revised their findings on Povetkin and admitted he passed all his tests... They used weasel words like "It's impossible to prove Povetkin used Meldonium this year" ... Yes it's impossible to prove when he tests at less than 1/14th the allowable concentration you stupid bastards.. And I don't care about Stiverne's test. He took an over the counter supplement for workout recovery which is pretty stupid.. You know it has banned drugs in it so you don't take any suppliments.. You let your body work naturally.

I fought boxers who I knew were on steroids and they were easy to beat and knock out.. Steroids were legal and I never took them.. They hurt you. I don't believe they make anyone better... The best boxers in the world: Lomachenko, Russell, Gonzalez, Crawford, Thurman, Brook, Spence, Charlo, Andrade, Golovkin, Kovalev, Ward, Usyk, and Joshua don't take PED's of any kind and they don't need to.. They don't even think about it and don't worry if their opponents might be using them.. They wouldn't be any better if they took them.. Boxing is a skill sport and any unnatural chemical adulterations to your body will throw your reactions off a tad.

The details of the court action and expert witness who asserts it was impossible for povetkin to test clean 3 times then pop with trace amounts of the drug in question without ingesting it after the wada ban cam into effect.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/1 ... -drug-test

[Cap]

Boxing is slinking into the shadows. No one admires boxers like they did when I was a kid and the heavyweights are a pathetic joke. Povetkin is a known drug-user and many other users just haven't got caught. Joshua is another Frank Bruno beating up on guys who wouldn't have been ranked at all in the 1960s and 70s. Joe Parker seems a decent guy but he needs at least two more years of schooling to be his best, unless what we're seeing now is the best he's going to be. As for the others, the less said the better.

I watched Povetkin-Duhaupas. It smelled. The Frenchman was quick to jump in despite the WBC removing their sanction. He was moving backwards when Povetkin landed the "KO" punch. It looked more like he took a dive. Don't blame him. The Russian mafia (i.e. Vladimir Putin) likely told him to put on a good show until the sixth round or his family would never find his body. Povetkin was a good fighter once. Then the state organized drug programme got hold of him.

As for Joshua and his latest show pony. Did anyone imagine for even a second that Molina posed any kind of threat? I'm surprised he was able to find any ad-sponsors for his trunks. Did he even bother training for that hippodrome?

Never mind Ali or Foreman or Frazier. If Ken Norton was coming up now he'd mop the floor with Povetkin, Ortiz, Joshua, etc. I wouldn't pay a nickle to watch these roid-users.

[Tanzio]

Boxing is slinking into the shadows. No one admires boxers like they did when I was a kid and the heavyweights are a pathetic joke. Povetkin is a known drug-user and many other users just haven't got caught. Joshua is another Frank Bruno beating up on guys who wouldn't have been ranked at all in the 1960s and 70s. Joe Parker seems a decent guy but he needs at least two more years of schooling to be his best, unless what we're seeing now is the best he's going to be. As for the others, the less said the better.

I watched Povetkin-Duhaupas. It smelled. The Frenchman was quick to jump in despite the WBC removing their sanction. He was moving backwards when Povetkin landed the "KO" punch. It looked more like he took a dive. Don't blame him. The Russian mafia (i.e. Vladimir Putin) likely told him to put on a good show until the sixth round or his family would never find his body. Povetkin was a good fighter once. Then the state organized drug programme got hold of him.

As for Joshua and his latest show pony. Did anyone imagine for even a second that Molina posed any kind of threat? I'm surprised he was able to find any ad-sponsors for his trunks. Did he even bother training for that hippodrome?

Never mind Ali or Foreman or Frazier. If Ken Norton was coming up now he'd mop the floor with Povetkin, Ortiz, Joshua, etc. I wouldn't pay a nickle to watch these roid-users.

Yeah, the roid users from the 90s would kick their buttockses

[5burowz]

Wlad and Joshua are fighting each other as they should so I don't really have anything bad to say. I wish Povetkin would get his act together and I wish Deonte would fight someone with a pulse and I wish Parker didn't box like Devon Alexander against Ruiz but, hey, it could be worse.

[Kalan]

Boxing is slinking into the shadows. No one admires boxers like they did when I was a kid and the heavyweights are a pathetic joke. Povetkin is a known drug-user and many other users just haven't got caught. Joshua is another Frank Bruno beating up on guys who wouldn't have been ranked at all in the 1960s and 70s. Joe Parker seems a decent guy but he needs at least two more years of schooling to be his best, unless what we're seeing now is the best he's going to be. As for the others, the less said the better.

I watched Povetkin-Duhaupas. It smelled. The Frenchman was quick to jump in despite the WBC removing their sanction. He was moving backwards when Povetkin landed the "KO" punch. It looked more like he took a dive. Don't blame him. The Russian mafia (i.e. Vladimir Putin) likely told him to put on a good show until the sixth round or his family would never find his body. Povetkin was a good fighter once. Then the state organized drug programme got hold of him.

As for Joshua and his latest show pony. Did anyone imagine for even a second that Molina posed any kind of threat? I'm surprised he was able to find any ad-sponsors for his trunks. Did he even bother training for that hippodrome?

Never mind Ali or Foreman or Frazier. If Ken Norton was coming up now he'd mop the floor with Povetkin, Ortiz, Joshua, etc. I wouldn't pay a nickle to watch these roid-users.

Fist of all... Roid use was common in Norton's day... PED use was LEGAL in his day and the stuff was all over the place.. Plus Norton was knocked stiff by 188-pound Jose Luis Garcia... And Norton was a wide open China chin who was knocked out several times... In stark contrast Povetkin, Ortiz, Joshua, haven never been knocked out or were ever close to being knocked out... Norton lead with his head and that's why he was knocked out so much... They would crush the very hittable Norton like a mac truck running over a squirrel...

Steroids were first tested for in the 1976 Montreal Olimpics because steroid use was damaging athletes and their children, who had many more deformities and problems than kids who aren't offspring of steroid freaks.. Athletes today are much cleaner than they were in the 1970's steroid era, and most do not rely on black market drugs to gain an advantage over their competitors, because thorough drug testing have nailed Lamont Peterson, Roy Jones, Fernando Vargas, Erik Morales, Antonio Tarver, James Toney, and many other users.

Povetkin has never tested positive for any steroid and his "adverse" test for over-the-counter drug Meldonium turned out to be BS -- which VADA retracted because they were forced to when proven wrong... PED pusher Victor Conte started VADA and it's an extremely biased, untrustworthy and unprofessional agency... I don't believe anything they say and I think they'll be put out of business in the future when their skullduggery is uncovered.

[Cap]