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[mike1989]

Martin, if you count 18 months from 2016-11-22 it is not the best of Mariusz wach and Michael Perez, this is the range 2015-05-22...2016-11-22 that is the date of the fight with Michael Perez, there did not see Mariusz as not intermeddle )..???????????

Michael,

Perez bout on 2015-05-22

Wach bout on 2015-11-04

So when Perez got out on 2016-11-22 after 18 months, Wach got in on 2016-11-22 as best opponent.

Perez could not be a reference point because his approval rating was 50% rating because it's either Povetkin range :

2015-02-27...2016-08-28 with base combat with the hook or
2015-04-05...2016-10-05 with a base of either Klitschko
Manuel charr 2014-5-30...2015-11-30
or Carlos takam 2014-10-24 ...2016-04-24 and each with these options,

Mariusz wach is not the best female oppositions Povetkin in the range!!!???????????)

[computerrank]

Perez could not be a reference point because his approval rating was 50% rating because it's either Povetkin range :

2015-02-27...2016-08-28 with base combat with the hook or
2015-04-05...2016-10-05 with a base of either Klitschko
Manuel charr 2014-5-30...2015-11-30
or Carlos takam 2014-10-24 ...2016-04-24 and each with these options,

Mariusz wach is not the best female oppositions Povetkin in the range!!!???????????)

The 18 month time frame is NOT absolutely fixed. The 18 months time frame is re-started after a best opponent gets out of scope or after a better best opponent is fought.

The time frame is re-started after a reduction beginning with the bout date of the next best opponent.
The time frame is re-started after a better opponent is fought beginning with the bout date of the best opponent.

Please study in detail the following listing again.

The highest rating within 18 months is considered.

If this rating does not cover the rating - at any time:
- the rating is reduced to rating_red = rating/2 + rating_best_opp
- the rating_best_opp is increased to rating_best_opp = rating_red/2

With points for Povetkin (current version):

2012-02-25 Povetkin 463 covered by Marco Huck 310 from 2012-02-25;

2013-08-25 Povetkin 463 not covered by Marco Huck 310 from 2016-02-25 (out)
2013-08-25 Povetkin 469 not covered by Wawrzyk 104 from 2013-06-15 (next best opponent)
2013-08-25 Povetkin 469 reduced to 469/2 + 104 = 338
2013-08-25 Povetkin 338 is now covered by increased entry for Wawrzyk 119 on original date 2013-06-15

2013-10-05 Povetkin 304 covered by W. Klitschko 1047 from 2013-10-05;

2015-04-05 Povetkin 512 not covered by W. Klitschko 1047 from 2013-10-05 (out)
2015-04-05 Povetkin 512 covered by Takam 341 from 2014-10-24 (next best opponent)

2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Takam 341 from 2014-10-24 (out)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Perez 208 from 2015-05-22 (next best opponent)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 reduced to 565/2 + 208 = 490
2016-04-24 Povetkin 490 is now covered by increased entry for Perez 245 on original date 2015-05-22

2016-11-22 Povetkin 490 not covered by Perez 245 from 2015-05-22 (out)
2016-11-22 Povetkin 490 not covered by Wach 98 from 2015-11-04 (next best opponent)
2016-11-22 Povetkin 490 reduced to 490/2 + 98 = 343
2016-11-22 Povetkin 343 is now covererd by increased entry for Wach 171.5 on original date 2015-11-04

[mike1989]

Perez could not be a reference point because his approval rating was 50% rating because it's either Povetkin r

The 18 month time frame is NOT absolutely fixed. The 18 months time frame is re-started after a best opponent gets out of scope or after a better best opponent is fought.
I understand it ...)

With points for Povetkin (current version):

2012-02-25 Povetkin 463 covered by Marco Huck 310 from 2012-02-25;

2013-08-25 Povetkin 463 not covered by Marco Huck 310 from 2016-02-25 (out)
2013-08-25 Povetkin 469 not covered by Wawrzyk 104 from 2013-06-15 (next best opponent)
2013-08-25 Povetkin 469 reduced to 469/2 + 104 = 338
2013-08-25 Povetkin 338 is now covered by increased entry for Wawrzyk 119 on original date 2013-06-15

2013-10-05 Povetkin 304 covered by W. Klitschko 1047 from 2013-10-05;

2015-04-05 Povetkin 512 not covered by W. Klitschko 1047 from 2013-10-05 (out)
2015-04-05 Povetkin 512 covered by Takam 341 from 2014-10-24 (next best opponent)

2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Takam 341 from 2014-10-24 (out)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Perez 208 from 2015-05-22 (next best opponent)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 reduced to 565/2 + 208 = 490

I understand everything up to this position.

2016-04-24 Povetkin 490 is now covered by increased entry for Perez 245 on original date 2015-05-22

I don't understand how Michael Perez was the point otset the next 18 months, he was fiction at the time of the battle and after the battle 50% of the rating Povetkin?????

2016-11-22 Povetkin 490 not covered by Perez 245 from 2015-05-22 (out)

Michael Perez a rating at the time of the fight with Povetkin not 245 points and 208 points!

2016-11-22 Povetkin 490 not covered by Wach 98 from 2015-11-04 (next best opponent)
2016-11-22 Povetkin 490 reduced to 490/2 + 98 = 343
2016-11-22 Povetkin 343 is now covererd by increased entry for Wach 171.5 on original date 2015-11-04

Martin indicate where I went wrong ??? ... I think I'm right????)

[mike1989]

Michael Perez may not be the starting point of the next 18 months, because his rating at the time and after the fight below 50% of rating Povetkin??????

[mike1989]

quoting the rules regarding our correspondence with you )))...:

21.The rating of a boxer is reduced by 0% to 50%, if he didn't box an opponent with a rating of at least 50% (for men) or 33% (for women) to 0% of his own rating points within 18 months and if the rule was not yet applied within the last 18 month.

22.The rating of a boxer is reduced by 0% to 50%, if he didn't box an opponent with a rating of at least 50% (for men) or 33% (for women) to 0% of his own rating points within 18 months and if the rule was not yet applied within the last 18 month.

[computerrank]

quoting the rules regarding our correspondence with you )))...:

21.The rating of a boxer is reduced by 0% to 50%, if he didn't box an opponent with a rating of at least 50% (for men) or 33% (for women) to 0% of his own rating points within 18 months and if the rule was not yet applied within the last 18 month.

22.The rating of a boxer is reduced by 0% to 50%, if he didn't box an opponent with a rating of at least 50% (for men) or 33% (for women) to 0% of his own rating points within 18 months and if the rule was not yet applied within the last 18 month.

Thanks Michael,

the correction was my fault. The correction of the rules was erroneous. The original text was correct. And I now have added some detailed amendments.

21. The rating of a boxer is reduced by 0% to 50%, if he didn't box an opponent with a rating of at least 50% (for men) or 33% (for women) to 0% of his own rating points within 18 months.
22. The new rating after a reduction is 50% of the old rating + the best opponent's pre-bout rating for men; The new rating after a reduction is 67% of the old rating + the best opponent's pre-bout rating for women .
23. The best opponent's pre-bout rating is set to 50% of the the boxer's new rating for men; The best opponent's pre-bout rating is set to 33% of the the boxer's new rating for women
24. The rating of a boxer is reduced by 50% for every time period of inactivity of 18 months.
25. A virtual best opponent's pre-bout rating is set to 50% of the the boxer's new rating with date of the reduction for men; A virtual best opponent's pre-bout rating is set to 33% of the the boxer's new rating with date of the reduction for women.

[mike1989]

quoting the rules regarding our correspondence with you )))...:

Thanks Michael,

the correction was my fault. The correction of the rules was erroneous. The original text was correct. And I now have added some detailed amendments.

21. The rating of a boxer is reduced by 0% to 50%, if he didn't box an opponent with a rating of at least 50% (for men) or 33% (for women) to 0% of his own rating points within 18 months.
22. The new rating after a reduction is 50% of the old rating + the best opponent's pre-bout rating for men; The new rating after a reduction is 67% of the old rating + the best opponent's pre-bout rating for women .
23. The best opponent's pre-bout rating is set to 50% of the the boxer's new rating for men; The best opponent's pre-bout rating is set to 33% of the the boxer's new rating for women
24. The rating of a boxer is reduced by 50% for every time period of inactivity of 18 months.
25. A virtual best opponent's pre-bout rating is set to 50% of the the boxer's new rating with date of the reduction for men; A virtual best opponent's pre-bout rating is set to 33% of the the boxer's new rating with date of the reduction for women.

Martin can for example write how it works???

I can't understand this paragraph:
22. The new rating after a reduction is 50% of the old rating + the best opponent's pre-bout rating for men; The new rating after a reduction is 67% of the old rating + the best opponent's pre-bout rating for women .???

thanks for the early! )...

[mike1989]

Martin to explain how there was a reduction of the rating of Nicolas Walters in the aftermath of the battle with Nonito donair??? in my opinion there is something not right ???

[computerrank]

Martin to explain how there was a reduction of the rating of Nicolas Walters in the aftermath of the battle with Nonito donair??? in my opinion there is something not right ???

What reduction, please? Walters had 605 points after the Donaire bout and he had the same 605 points before his next bout?

His rating was reduced 18 month after the Donaire bout, between his bout against Sosa and his bout against Lomachenko.

[computerrank]

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2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Takam 341 from 2014-10-24 (out)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Perez 208 from 2015-05-22 (next best opponent)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 reduced to 565/2 + 208 = 490

I understand everything up to this position.

2016-04-24 Povetkin 490 is now covered by increased entry for Perez 245 on original date 2015-05-22

I don't understand how Michael Perez was the point otset the next 18 months, he was fiction at the time of the battle and after the battle 50% of the rating Povetkin?????

....

Martin indicate where I went wrong ??? ... I think I'm right????)

On 2016-04-24 the Takam bout was out of 18 months after this bout.

So on 2016-04-24 we had to take the next best bout within the last 18 months. This was the Perez bout. This bout was on 2015-05-22 and this bout was within 18 months on 2016-04-24.

[mike1989]

Martin indicate where I went wrong ??? ... I think I'm right????)

On 2016-04-24 the Takam bout was out of 18 months after this bout.

So on 2016-04-24 we had to take the next best bout within the last 18 months. This was the Perez bout. This bout was on 2015-05-22 and this bout was within 18 months on 2016-04-24.[/quote]

I think so too! ... only then Marius wah is no molded because the rating Povetkin is not a true test current ??????????????????? )

[mike1989]

Martin to explain how there was a reduction of the rating of Nicolas Walters in the aftermath of the battle with Nonito donair??? in my opinion there is something not right ???

What reduction, please? Walters had 605 points after the Donaire bout and he had the same 605 points before his next bout?

His rating was reduced 18 month after the Donaire bout, between his bout against Sosa and his bout against Lomachenko.

I agree Martin !)... but after Sosa with Nicholas Walters took too much I can not justify??????????????

[mike1989]

...

Martin indicate where I went wrong ??? ... I think I'm right????)

On 2016-04-24 the Takam bout was out of 18 months after this bout.

So on 2016-04-24 we had to take the next best bout within the last 18 months. This was the Perez bout. This bout was on 2015-05-22 and this bout was within 18 months on 2016-04-24.

on 2016-04-24 a rating of Povetkin should possitivity as follows 565/2-173=109,5 ie 565-109,5=455 points and not 380 points ???????

[mike1989]

...

Martin indicate where I went wrong ??? ... I think I'm right????)

On 2016-04-24 the Takam bout was out of 18 months after this bout.

So on 2016-04-24 we had to take the next best bout within the last 18 months. This was the Perez bout. This bout was on 2015-05-22 and this bout was within 18 months on 2016-04-24.

on 2016-04-24 a rating of Povetkin should possitivity as follows 565/2-173=109,5 ie 565-109,5=455 points and not 380 points ???????

[computerrank]

on 2016-04-24 a rating of Povetkin should possitivity as follows 565/2-173=109,5 ie 565-109,5=455 points and not 380 points ???????

Why 173 points?

I wrote:

2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Takam 341 from 2014-10-24 (out)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Perez 208 from 2015-05-22 (next best opponent)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 reduced to 565/2 + 208 = 490
2016-04-24 Povetkin 490 is now covered by increased entry for Perez 245 on original date 2015-05-22

Perez had 208 points before his bout. So the reduction is down to 490 points.

[computerrank]

I agree Martin !)... but after Sosa with Nicholas Walters took too much I can not justify??????????????

Walters had 450 points after the Sosa bout.

His best opponent after Donaire was Marriaga with 148 before the bout.

But this bout was at featherweight and Walters' rating after Sosa was at super featherweight.

At super featherweight the value of Marriaga's rating was 148 * 126 * 126 / 130 / 130 = 139 points

Walters' new rating after the reduction was 450/2 + 139 = 225 + 139 = 364 points.

[mike1989]

Why 173 points?

I wrote:

2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Takam 341 from 2014-10-24 (out)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Perez 208 from 2015-05-22 (next best opponent)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 reduced to 565/2 + 208 = 490
2016-04-24 Povetkin 490 is now covered by increased entry for Perez 245 on original date 2015-05-22

Perez had 208 points before his bout. So the reduction is down to 490 points.

I agree.) then you fix the ranking points before the fight with the Frenchman with 380 points to 490 points????

[mike1989]

I agree Martin !)... but after Sosa with Nicholas Walters took too much I can not justify??????????????

Walters had 450 points after the Sosa bout.

His best opponent after Donaire was Marriaga with 148 before the bout.

But this bout was at featherweight and Walters' rating after Sosa was at super featherweight.

At super featherweight the value of Marriaga's rating was 148 * 126 * 126 / 130 / 130 = 139 points

Walters' new rating after the reduction was 450/2 + 139 = 225 + 139 = 364 points.

no, not because Marriaga is taken into account a reasonable rating of the opposition after the fight because it is Sosa ???

[computerrank]

Walters had 450 points after the Sosa bout.

His best opponent after Donaire was Marriaga with 148 before the bout.

But this bout was at featherweight and Walters' rating after Sosa was at super featherweight.

At super featherweight the value of Marriaga's rating was 148 * 126 * 126 / 130 / 130 = 139 points

Walters' new rating after the reduction was 450/2 + 139 = 225 + 139 = 364 points.

no, not because Marriaga is taken into account a reasonable rating of the opposition after the fight because it is Sosa ???

We are looking into the current ratings with pre-bout ratings counting.

After the Donaire bout ran out of the 18 months window:

Marriaga had a pre-bout rating of 139 points.

Sosa had a pre-bout rating of 124 points.

So the Marriaga rating counts.

[computerrank]

2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Takam 341 from 2014-10-24 (out)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Perez 208 from 2015-05-22 (next best opponent)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 reduced to 565/2 + 208 = 490
2016-04-24 Povetkin 490 is now covered by increased entry for Perez 245 on original date 2015-05-22

Perez had 208 points before his bout. So the reduction is down to 490 points.

I agree.) then you fix the ranking points before the fight with the Frenchman with 380 points to 490 points????

There are TWO reductions between the Wach bout and the Dehautas bout.

Just as I wrote:

first reduction:
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Takam 341 from 2014-10-24 (out)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Perez 208 from 2015-05-22 (next best opponent)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 reduced to 565/2 + 208 = 490
2016-04-24 Povetkin 490 is now covered by increased entry for Perez 245 on original date 2015-05-22

second reducton:
2016-11-22 Povetkin 490 not covered by Perez 245 from 2015-05-22 (out)
2016-11-22 Povetkin 490 not covered by Wach 98 from 2015-11-04 (next best opponent)
2016-11-22 Povetkin 490 reduced to 490/2 + 98 = 343
2016-11-22 Povetkin 343 is now covererd by increased entry for Wach 171.5 on original date 2015-11-04

Povetkin is at 343 points after the second reduction.

[mike1989]

Walters had 450 points after the Sosa bout.

We are looking into the current ratings with pre-bout ratings counting.

After the Donaire bout ran out of the 18 months window:

Marriaga had a pre-bout rating of 139 points.

Sosa had a pre-bout rating of 124 points.

So the Marriaga rating counts.

Martin I don't understand... when podseti annual ranking points counted against you draw like a victory, and in the case of a downgrade??? I think that there is no sequence????

[mike1989]

2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Takam 341 from 2014-10-24 (out)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Perez 208 from 2015-05-22 (next best opponent)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 reduced to 565/2 + 208 = 490
2016-04-24 Povetkin 490 is now covered by increased entry for Perez 245 on original date 2015-05-22

Just as I wrote:

first reduction:
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Takam 341 from 2014-10-24 (out)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 not covered by Perez 208 from 2015-05-22 (next best opponent)
2016-04-24 Povetkin 565 reduced to 565/2 + 208 = 490
2016-04-24 Povetkin 490 is now covered by increased entry for Perez 245 on original date 2015-05-22

second reducton:
2016-11-22 Povetkin 490 not covered by Perez 245 from 2015-05-22 (out)
2016-11-22 Povetkin 490 not covered by Wach 98 from 2015-11-04 (next best opponent)
2016-11-22 Povetkin 490 reduced to 490/2 + 98 = 343
2016-11-22 Povetkin 343 is now covererd by increased entry for Wach 171.5 on original date 2015-11-04

Povetkin is at 343 points after the second reduction.

again I don't understand(...
if the last withdrawal of the rating with Povetkin happened 2016-04-24 the withdrawal can occur 2016-11-22 is only seven months???
I have a feeling that the rules of the downgrades only understand editors boxrec ??? )

[computerrank]

again I don't understand(...
if the last withdrawal of the rating with Povetkin happened 2016-04-24 the withdrawal can occur 2016-11-22 is only seven months???
I have a feeling that the rules of the downgrades only understand editors boxrec ??? )

It is not really difficult

The Takam bout got out on 2016-04-24. Now the rating was reduced based on the rating of the next best boxer Perez. With this first reduction on 2016-04-24 the new start point was set to the date of the Perez bout 2015-05-22.

The Perez bout got out on 2016-11-22. Now the rating was reduced based on the rating of the next best boxer Wach. With this second reduction on 2016-11-22 the new start point was set to the date of the Wach bout 2015-11-04.

[mike1989]

again I don't understand(...

It is not really difficult

The Takam bout got out on 2016-04-24. Now the rating was reduced based on the rating of the next best boxer Perez. With this first reduction on 2016-04-24 the new start point was set to the date of the Perez bout 2015-05-22.

The Perez bout got out on 2016-11-22. Now the rating was reduced based on the rating of the next best boxer Wach. With this second reduction on 2016-11-22 the new start point was set to the date of the Wach bout 2015-11-04.

now, I understand)...
but why not sustained 18 months? another question : why some soldiers 18 months aged while others do not??)...
more about Nicholas Walters I wrote for a draw???

[mike1989]

again I don't understand(...

It is not really difficult

The Takam bout got out on 2016-04-24. Now the rating was reduced based on the rating of the next best boxer Perez. With this first reduction on 2016-04-24 the new start point was set to the date of the Perez bout 2015-05-22.

The Perez bout got out on 2016-11-22. Now the rating was reduced based on the rating of the next best boxer Wach. With this second reduction on 2016-11-22 the new start point was set to the date of the Wach bout 2015-11-04.

now, I understand)...
but why not sustained 18 months? another question : why some soldiers 18 months aged while others do not??)...
more about Nicholas Walters I wrote for a draw???