skanksta wrote:BJS is a master boxer.
In shape and on-form (NOT how he was vs Akapov) he's capable of winning rounds vs the ATGs.
BUT - he's fragile. Lacks the physicality, power, chin etc to be an elite 12 round fighter. I'm sure CEJr woulda stopped him if it'd been his 6th 12 round fight rather than his first.
I think he starts well vs Canelo and after 6 rounds is slightly ahead. A bit like a MW Amir Khan. Just as you're thinking BJS might be able to pull it off, Canelo's power starts to tell and the ginger one pulls away for late stoppage(probably) or wide decision with BJS hanging on.
He COULD win if he fights the perfect fight, but probably get stiffed on the scorecards anyway.
Try to imagine the odds that you'd rather bet on BJS than Canelo and (for me) you get about 1/20 - 20/1 - a little more than the '9 times out of 10' an earlier poster suggested.
Still be a good fight, but I think the question is - "does BJS go the distance?" not who wins.
i think Canelo would have success earlier, Saunders isn't as quick or mobile as amir, and canelo would have no respect for saunders power. Canelo is also an underrated technician, and I think he'd start landing combinations after a couple of rounds.
I think Saunders is very overrated, he barely squeaked by Eubank Jr, and Jr is nowhere near as accomplished as Canelo, I think Canelo is a level above Saunders at least and is physically far stronger. He'd do him up like a kipper.
Canelo would smash Saunders. Just another fairly overrated WBO Champ who's not fought anywhere near the level that Canelo has or ever looked that impressive to me through a whole fight.
TheCobra wrote:Canelo would smash Saunders. Just another fairly overrated WBO Champ who's not fought anywhere near the level that Canelo has or ever looked that impressive to me through a whole fight.
reminds me of the era of british light middles like who got smashed when they stepped up, paper champs who just werent good enough.
Gingerhead would be favored but I think that this would be a more interesting fight than Chavez Jr. The fellow Mexican might be better prep for 3G and bigger money though.
TheCobra wrote:Canelo would smash Saunders. Just another fairly overrated WBO Champ who's not fought anywhere near the level that Canelo has or ever looked that impressive to me through a whole fight.
reminds me of the era of british light middles like who got smashed when they stepped up, paper champs who just werent good enough.
Yeah, I remember being amazed that one of my favourites - Richard "The Secret" Williams got pasted by Sergio Martinez And he did it twice - think I bought in to the Sky hype @ the time
Agree with you re Canelo - I just think BJS is slightly ahead and in the fight for 4 rounds against anyone. After that he's easy meat for anyone decent.
TheCobra wrote:Canelo would smash Saunders. Just another fairly overrated WBO Champ who's not fought anywhere near the level that Canelo has or ever looked that impressive to me through a whole fight.
reminds me of the era of british light middles like who got smashed when they stepped up, paper champs who just werent good enough.
Yeah, I remember being amazed that one of my favourites - Richard "The Secret" Williams got pasted by Sergio Martinez And he did it twice - think I bought in to the Sky hype @ the time
Agree with you re Canelo - I just think BJS is slightly ahead and in the fight for 4 rounds against anyone. After that he's easy meat for anyone decent.
Yes. It was a major shock to many people at the time, and I remember someone getting marmalised by 'made in hell' god, what was his name now, the russian fighter, he was a real beast. Something walker, hennessy fighter, name escapes me now. Also Steve Roberts, Takaloo, Wayne Alexander, not one of them was genuine world class.
reminds me of the era of british light middles like who got smashed when they stepped up, paper champs who just werent good enough.
Yeah, I remember being amazed that one of my favourites - Richard "The Secret" Williams got pasted by Sergio Martinez And he did it twice - think I bought in to the Sky hype @ the time
Agree with you re Canelo - I just think BJS is slightly ahead and in the fight for 4 rounds against anyone. After that he's easy meat for anyone decent.
Yes. It was a major shock to many people at the time, and I remember someone getting marmalised by 'made in hell' god, what was his name now, the russian fighter, he was a real beast. Something walker, hennessy fighter, name escapes me now. Also Steve Roberts, Takaloo, Wayne Alexander, not one of them was genuine world class.
Yes, Karmazin is right.
I saw Takaloo vs Alexander @ York Hall classic.
skanksta wrote:
Yeah, I remember being amazed that one of my favourites - Richard "The Secret" Williams got pasted by Sergio Martinez And he did it twice - think I bought in to the Sky hype @ the time
Agree with you re Canelo - I just think BJS is slightly ahead and in the fight for 4 rounds against anyone. After that he's easy meat for anyone decent.
Yes. It was a major shock to many people at the time, and I remember someone getting marmalised by 'made in hell' god, what was his name now, the russian fighter, he was a real beast. Something walker, hennessy fighter, name escapes me now. Also Steve Roberts, Takaloo, Wayne Alexander, not one of them was genuine world class.
Yes, Karmazin is right.
I saw Takaloo vs Alexander @ York Hall classic.
Saw roman karmazin destroy walker at ally pally, really did a number on him. Some of his fans got a terrible shock because they had no idea who karmazin was.
Alvarez has fast hands but slow feet.....which would be a big problem against Saunders who is very fleet of foot.
Khan outboxed Alvarez but lacked the power to dent him and ultimately got blasted out. Saunders is a big middleweight and punches deceptively hard. Its a dangerous fight, but now he's in shape, I like Saunders chances against a one paced Alvarez.
Alvarez is overated, has been for a long time now. You fight his fight he can look superb. But if you take him out of his element and he's not all that good at adapting.
lurkyshaka wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 10:20
Alvarez has fast hands but slow feet.....which would be a big problem against Saunders who is very fleet of foot.
Khan outboxed Alvarez but lacked the power to dent him and ultimately got blasted out. Saunders is a big middleweight and punches deceptively hard. Its a dangerous fight, but now he's in shape, I like Saunders chances against a one paced Alvarez.
Alvarez is overated, has been for a long time now. You fight his fight he can look superb. But if you take him out of his element and he's not all that good at adapting.
Very interesting fight.
I agree canelo doesn't like movers he likes to counter aggressive fighters and BJS is the complete wrong style for canelo .it would most likely be a fight where canelo wins 4 RDS but gets the decision.
lurkyshaka wrote: ↑17 Dec 2017, 10:20
Alvarez has fast hands but slow feet.....which would be a big problem against Saunders who is very fleet of foot.
Khan outboxed Alvarez but lacked the power to dent him and ultimately got blasted out. Saunders is a big middleweight and punches deceptively hard. Its a dangerous fight, but now he's in shape, I like Saunders chances against a one paced Alvarez.
Alvarez is overated, has been for a long time now. You fight his fight he can look superb. But if you take him out of his element and he's not all that good at adapting.
Very interesting fight.
I agree canelo doesn't like movers he likes to counter aggressive fighters and BJS is the complete wrong style for canelo .it would most likely be a fight where canelo wins 4 RDS but gets the decision.
Yep, that's very much my take as well - can already imagine the whole "BJS didn't show enough aggression to deserve the decision" etc narrative if he's jobbed on the cards and they try and justify it.
And he did it twice - think I bought in to the Sky hype @ the time 
