Wilder v Povetkin - who's dirty?

[Rob3_142]

I feel that the forum is almost split between who was responsible for the fight between the two not taking place.

Some say that Wilder is protected by the WBC, and the failed drugs test is just a plant to further protect him from fighting a dangerous man.

On the other hand, it seems that Povetkin is just addicted to PED's and his career will nose dive into obscurity.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I'll have to go with the guy failing tests over the nonsensical claims if the people defending him. Why would the wbc care? They lost several hundred grand on these tests. Povetkin is worth more than wilder to them at the moment. Makes no sense and no cents for them.

[montrealsuper]

Wrong - Wilder's future is worth multi millions because Haymon plans on fixing all his fights for years - just like GB is doing with Canelo and just like Haymon did with Floyd since 2006 - open your eyes and open your mind to how boxing really works - greed is king - Haymon will DO ANYTHING to get rid of Povetkin so he can continue to protect his fraud HWT Wilder for years and years - It's Primo Carnera all over again - The WBC and Vada in cahoots and conspiracy with Haymon? I have no doubt - remember what Paulie malignaggi told us before his fight with Broner and BEFORE he signed with Haymon: "Al Haymon can manipulate anything - what al haymon wants al haymon gets"

[Covfefe]

He could be as protected as you like but the fight was signed and Povetkin failed tests. There is no real conversation here, they'd have fought if Povetkin could pass a bloody drug test.

[BitPlayer]

[asdfjkl]

He could be as protected as you like but the fight was signed and Povetkin failed tests. There is no real conversation here, they'd have fought if Povetkin could pass a bloody drug test.

Then fix the test?! It took Wada/Vada over 6 months to figure out that Povetkin was 100% innocent when they talk about taking Meldonium when it wasn't allowed. Povetkin never took meldonium when it wasn't allowed any more.

Now yet again, for the second time their test most likely failed again, they just reveiled today.

[Unbiased Expert]

He could be as protected as you like but the fight was signed and Povetkin failed tests. There is no real conversation here, they'd have fought if Povetkin could pass a bloody drug test.

Then fix the test?! It took Wada/Vada over 6 months to figure out that Povetkin was 100% innocent when they talk about taking Meldonium when it wasn't allowed. Povetkin never took meldonium when it wasn't allowed any more.

And how do you know it? Because he said that? Peds tests are easy to cheat and his team failed twice during it

[asdfjkl]

He could be as protected as you like but the fight was signed and Povetkin failed tests. There is no real conversation here, they'd have fought if Povetkin could pass a bloody drug test.

Then fix the test?! It took Wada/Vada over 6 months to figure out that Povetkin was 100% innocent when they talk about taking Meldonium when it wasn't allowed. Povetkin never took meldonium when it wasn't allowed any more.

And how do you know it? Because he said that? Peds tests are easy to cheat and his team failed twice during it

Nope, they passedthe test, somehow many American media fail to realise. On top of that, there are retards out there, so dumb, they still don't realise Povetkin passed his previous tests and will most likely pass this test as well, somehow it will probably take another 6 months before Wada/Vada will realise again. They are doing this on purpose, to protect the American boxers.

[Unbiased Expert]

Then fix the test?! It took Wada/Vada over 6 months to figure out that Povetkin was 100% innocent when they talk about taking Meldonium when it wasn't allowed. Povetkin never took meldonium when it wasn't allowed any more.

And how do you know it? Because he said that? Peds tests are easy to cheat and his team failed twice during it

Nope, they passedthe test, somehow many American media fail to realise. On top of that, there are retards out there, so dumb, they still don't realise Povetkin passed his previous tests and will most likely pass this test as well, somehow it will probably take another 6 months before Wada/Vada realise again.

Tell me why boxers like Kovalev / Golovkin never had any trouble? Explain that please :) They were both tested by VADA as well.

Just poor Povetkin failed to hide his peds. Pathetic excuses wont fix it

[BitPlayer]

He could be as protected as you like but the fight was signed and Povetkin failed tests. There is no real conversation here, they'd have fought if Povetkin could pass a bloody drug test.

Then fix the test?! It took Wada/Vada over 6 months to figure out that Povetkin was 100% innocent when they talk about taking Meldonium when it wasn't allowed. Povetkin never took meldonium when it wasn't allowed any more.

Now yet again, for the second time their test most likely failed again, they just reveiled today.

That wasn't an issue with the tests, but interpratation. It was the allowable levels of a formally allowed substance.

[asdfjkl]

And how do you know it? Because he said that? Peds tests are easy to cheat and his team failed twice during it

Nope, they passedthe test, somehow many American media fail to realise. On top of that, there are retards out there, so dumb, they still don't realise Povetkin passed his previous tests and will most likely pass this test as well, somehow it will probably take another 6 months before Wada/Vada realise again.

Tell me why boxers like Kovalev / Golovkin never had any trouble? Explain that please :) They were both tested by VADA as well.

Just poor Povetkin failed to hide his peds. Pathetic excuses wont fix it

Because they never fought Deontay Wilder?

[Stuarty]

Nope, they passedthe test, somehow many American media fail to realise. On top of that, there are retards out there, so dumb, they still don't realise Povetkin passed his previous tests and will most likely pass this test as well, somehow it will probably take another 6 months before Wada/Vada realise again.

Tell me why boxers like Kovalev / Golovkin never had any trouble? Explain that please :) They were both tested by VADA as well.

Just poor Povetkin failed to hide his peds. Pathetic excuses wont fix it

Because they never fought Deontay Wilder?

You're a special kind of retard aren't you?

[asdfjkl]

Tell me why boxers like Kovalev / Golovkin never had any trouble? Explain that please :) They were both tested by VADA as well.

Just poor Povetkin failed to hide his peds. Pathetic excuses wont fix it

Because they never fought Deontay Wilder?

You're a special kind of retard aren't you?

Never been one, never will be. But keep closing your eyes kid, perhaps that's better for you, reality might hurt you a lot.

[Stuarty]

Because they never fought Deontay Wilder?

You're a special kind of retard aren't you?

Never been one, never will be. But keep closing your eyes kid, perhaps that's better for you, reality might hurt you a lot.

Momma always said life was like a box of chocolates.....

[boxing_rocks]

Where is the "both" option ?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Wrong - Wilder's future is worth multi millions because Haymon plans on fixing all his fights for years - just like GB is doing with Canelo and just like Haymon did with Floyd since 2006 - open your eyes and open your mind to how boxing really works - greed is king - Haymon will DO ANYTHING to get rid of Povetkin so he can continue to protect his fraud HWT Wilder for years and years - It's Primo Carnera all over again - The WBC and Vada in cahoots and conspiracy with Haymon? I have no doubt - remember what Paulie malignaggi told us before his fight with Broner and BEFORE he signed with Haymon: "Al Haymon can manipulate anything - what al haymon wants al haymon gets"

Al would never come close to a ryabinsky purse bid. While I can't say as I'm surprised at your comprehension, your future conspiracy theories have nothing to do with "at the moment".

[sweetviolenturge]

Wrong - Wilder's future is worth multi millions because Haymon plans on fixing all his fights for years - just like GB is doing with Canelo and just like Haymon did with Floyd since 2006 - open your eyes and open your mind to how boxing really works - greed is king - Haymon will DO ANYTHING to get rid of Povetkin so he can continue to protect his fraud HWT Wilder for years and years - It's Primo Carnera all over again - The WBC and Vada in cahoots and conspiracy with Haymon? I have no doubt - remember what Paulie malignaggi told us before his fight with Broner and BEFORE he signed with Haymon: "Al Haymon can manipulate anything - what al haymon wants al haymon gets"

What I don't understand about folks like you & your pal asdfjkl is why you would continue to be fans & follow the sport of boxing if you believe it to be as incredibly corrupt as you say. It makes no sense.
If I thought that every NFL game was "fixed" & the outcome predetermined beforehand, I certainly wouldn't bother tuning in on Sundays. So, why follow boxing if you truly believe that it's as dirty & rife with fixes as you say?

[asdfjkl]

You're a special kind of retard aren't you?

Never been one, never will be. But keep closing your eyes kid, perhaps that's better for you, reality might hurt you a lot.

Momma always said life was like a box of chocolates.....

Well, at least it's now obvious you're a special kind of retard.

[bigman1968]

WBC actually treating Povetkin as their favorit fighter!

Ranking him high, when other ABC ignore him completely. Allowing him to have all the fights in Russia. Putting him on soft probation over PED violation.

Riabinski's money, I presume, is the reason...WBC really loves it!

Whom I do not understand, it's Riabinski. Wasted over 30 millions of dollars on Povetkin, with no chance to get it back-((( Part of it is obviously not his money (Kremlin/Rosneft), but part is his own!

Can't he find younger Slavic looking guy, to buy him some names to fight and to buy some ABC rating???

[gregor]

Where is the "both" option ?

My thought exactly. I do not get the big discussion about Povetkin future -> the most basic fact is that he is 37, and with his style I would not give him more than 1-2 fights (on top level).

[Stuarty]

Never been one, never will be. But keep closing your eyes kid, perhaps that's better for you, reality might hurt you a lot.

Momma always said life was like a box of chocolates.....

Well, at least it's now obvious you're a special kind of retard.

Stupid is as stupid does

[montrealsuper]

Wrong - Wilder's future is worth multi millions because Haymon plans on fixing all his fights for years - just like GB is doing with Canelo and just like Haymon did with Floyd since 2006 - open your eyes and open your mind to how boxing really works - greed is king - Haymon will DO ANYTHING to get rid of Povetkin so he can continue to protect his fraud HWT Wilder for years and years - It's Primo Carnera all over again - The WBC and Vada in cahoots and conspiracy with Haymon? I have no doubt - remember what Paulie malignaggi told us before his fight with Broner and BEFORE he signed with Haymon: "Al Haymon can manipulate anything - what al haymon wants al haymon gets"

What I don't understand about folks like you & your pal asdfjkl is why you would continue to be fans & follow the sport of boxing if you believe it to be as incredibly corrupt as you say. It makes no sense.
If I thought that every NFL game was "fixed" & the outcome predetermined beforehand, I certainly wouldn't bother tuning in on Sundays. So, why follow boxing if you truly believe that it's as dirty & rife with fixes as you say?

Used to watch just about every fight - now only a few but I still have hope boxing can return to the way it was in the 80s 70s even 90s - it all went WWE with Floyd and Haymon - I just hope it can be saved and they don't totally wreck it -

[asdfjkl]

Momma always said life was like a box of chocolates.....

Well, at least it's now obvious you're a special kind of retard.

Stupid is as stupid does

Ha, your momma sure does care about your education

[Badhusker]

The OP's title to this thread is not only misleading, it is downright stupid. When one fighter in a championship fight tests positive for a banned drug, the WBC in this case calls off the fight and refuses to sanction it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who is at fault for it not happening.

We do have a few on the forum that will dispute anything against their hero whether true or not. A box of rocks has more sense than they do.

[Perseus]

Povetkin is CLEARLY dirty as proven by multiple failed drug tests.