AJ is clearly much smarter than Fury, Fury just makes a knob of himself again and again and looses fan's by the day. AJ knows how to play the game, hence why he can sell out Wembely. I used to really like Fury and I spent months trying to defend him but in the end you have to give up.liamlion wrote:AJ is far more articulate than Fury and AJ's bank balance will very likely be 5 times greater, and thats without having had to fight the division king. Not to mention Fury's 2 failed drugs tests in the past 15 months and inevitable ban.. If there is a idiot amongst the pair then the smart money would strongly suggest that Fury wins that accolade and quite comfortably too...Horse wrote:Have you seen him being interviewed?Rob3_142 wrote:What makes you challenge his intelligence?
Can we rank him again?
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Nightmare Roy
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Boxerbeetle
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Fury is much smarter than Joshua, he just prefers to act like an idiot sometimes.Nightmare Roy wrote:AJ is clearly much smarter than Fury, Fury just makes a knob of himself again and again and looses fan's by the day. AJ knows how to play the game, hence why he can sell out Wembely. I used to really like Fury and I spent months trying to defend him but in the end you have to give up.liamlion wrote:AJ is far more articulate than Fury and AJ's bank balance will very likely be 5 times greater, and thats without having had to fight the division king. Not to mention Fury's 2 failed drugs tests in the past 15 months and inevitable ban.. If there is a idiot amongst the pair then the smart money would strongly suggest that Fury wins that accolade and quite comfortably too...Horse wrote:Have you seen him being interviewed?
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Nightmare Roy
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What makes you say that? AJ might not be an exciting character but he seems like a thinker and he knows what's what.Boxerbeetle wrote:Fury is much smarter than Joshua, he just prefers to act like an idiot sometimes.Nightmare Roy wrote:AJ is clearly much smarter than Fury, Fury just makes a knob of himself again and again and looses fan's by the day. AJ knows how to play the game, hence why he can sell out Wembely. I used to really like Fury and I spent months trying to defend him but in the end you have to give up.liamlion wrote:
AJ is far more articulate than Fury and AJ's bank balance will very likely be 5 times greater, and thats without having had to fight the division king. Not to mention Fury's 2 failed drugs tests in the past 15 months and inevitable ban.. If there is a idiot amongst the pair then the smart money would strongly suggest that Fury wins that accolade and quite comfortably too...
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Mimmy
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Re: Can we rank him again?
Can you give me a definition of the word idiot then Horse so I have something I can argue with, otherwise the word can mean lots of ways to describe a person. Im not being perdantic by the way.Horse wrote:Not really.mimmy123 wrote:Has Tyson Fury been to school being a 'traveller'? It would be interesting to know what academic qualifications AJ and Tyson have, that should settle the debate about being an idiot.
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I don't want to debate.mimmy123 wrote:Can you give me a definition of the word idiot then Horse so I have something I can argue with, otherwise the word can mean lots of ways to describe a person. Im not being perdantic by the way.
Joshua seems like an idiot to me.
I don't care what other people think.
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Just another way to say "I was wrong, but I don't want to admit it"...Horse wrote:I don't want to debate.
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How did you work that one out?Rob3_142 wrote:Just another way to say "I was wrong, but I don't want to admit it"...
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Mimmy
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Comeon horse, youve said something surely you have to give a reasonable answer to the questions? Why say something then not repsond to perfectly reasonable questions?Horse wrote:I don't want to debate.mimmy123 wrote:Can you give me a definition of the word idiot then Horse so I have something I can argue with, otherwise the word can mean lots of ways to describe a person. Im not being perdantic by the way.
Joshua seems like an idiot to me.
I don't care what other people think.
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You're usually happy to argue your point of view. Why not this time?Horse wrote:How did you work that one out?Rob3_142 wrote:Just another way to say "I was wrong, but I don't want to admit it"...
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Because it's a dumb argument.Rob3_142 wrote:You're usually happy to argue your point of view. Why not this time?
We're going to count his GCSEs and try to estimate his IQ?
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I hope he is coming back. He's a major asset to the heavyweight mix
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Mimmy
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Re: Can we rank him again?
That would determine who was academically better, which then could argue who was more intelligent, thats how it works isnt it?Horse wrote:Because it's a dumb argument.Rob3_142 wrote:You're usually happy to argue your point of view. Why not this time?
We're going to count his GCSEs and try to estimate his IQ?
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No.mimmy123 wrote:That would determine who was academically better, which then could argue who was more intelligent, thats how it works isnt it?
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keithmoonhangover
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Gonna disagree on that. Someone I know has no degree, no diploma, no A levels, no O levels, just a handful of CSE's and yet he has an IQ of 170+. He didn't do well at school because of outside circumstances. You can have intelligence without qualifications.mimmy123 wrote:That would determine who was academically better, which then could argue who was more intelligent, thats how it works isnt it?Horse wrote:Because it's a dumb argument.Rob3_142 wrote:You're usually happy to argue your point of view. Why not this time?
We're going to count his GCSEs and try to estimate his IQ?
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Boxerbeetle
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Some of the stupidest people I know are extremely highly qualified. People can be educated far above their intelligence level.keithmoonhangover wrote:Gonna disagree on that. Someone I know has no degree, no diploma, no A levels, no O levels, just a handful of CSE's and yet he has an IQ of 170+. He didn't do well at school because of outside circumstances. You can have intelligence without qualifications.mimmy123 wrote:That would determine who was academically better, which then could argue who was more intelligent, thats how it works isnt it?Horse wrote:Because it's a dumb argument.
We're going to count his GCSEs and try to estimate his IQ?
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Perhaps but there are different ways of measuring intelligence. IQ tests? Traditional school exams? General knowledge? People can look really clever by being brilliant at pub quizzes for example.Boxerbeetle wrote:Some of the stupidest people I know are extremely highly qualified. People can be educated far above their intelligence level.
Then there's being smart, in the sense of making the best of what you have been dealt and not haphazardly messing up time and time again. I'm not remotely concerned about Fury's intelligence or lack of, but it doesn't seem to have been a particularly smart career path of late.
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You was the one that brought Joshua's intelligence into question. You look a bit silly now.Horse wrote:Because it's a dumb argument.Rob3_142 wrote:You're usually happy to argue your point of view. Why not this time?
We're going to count his GCSEs and try to estimate his IQ?
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Now there is a suprise , Horse doesn't care what other people think.Horse wrote:I don't want to debate.mimmy123 wrote:Can you give me a definition of the word idiot then Horse so I have something I can argue with, otherwise the word can mean lots of ways to describe a person. Im not being perdantic by the way.
Joshua seems like an idiot to me.
I don't care what other people think.
What has Joshua done in any way shape or form to suggest he is an idiot ?
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Mimmy
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There has been good arguments for how to judge the level of itelligence but im still not clear on how AJ ia an idiot?
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Rob3_142 wrote:You was the one that brought Joshua's intelligence into question. You look a bit silly now.
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I'm sorry guys but if anyone thinks counting GCSE's is a definitive measure of someones intelligence, it's their IQ I'd be bringing into question.
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Horse appears to have effectively body swerved this question.keithmoonhangover wrote:Horse, what do you think will happen about the drug tests and licence issues?Horse wrote:Of course, the only way anything can be incredible is if Joshua is involved.rossij8 wrote:If WK smashes AJ to pieces then Furys win will be deemed incredible, possibly
I too would be intrigued to find his view on this matter
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Boxerbeetle
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Horse loses all rational perspective when it comes to Fury, so his answer will be interesting indeed.davie wrote:Horse appears to have effectively body swerved this question.keithmoonhangover wrote:Horse, what do you think will happen about the drug tests and licence issues?Horse wrote:Of course, the only way anything can be incredible is if Joshua is involved.
I too would be intrigued to find his view on this matter
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Never!Boxerbeetle wrote:Horse loses all rational perspective when it comes to Fury, so his answer will be interesting indeed.davie wrote:Horse appears to have effectively body swerved this question.keithmoonhangover wrote:
Horse, what do you think will happen about the drug tests and licence issues?
I too would be intrigued to find his view on this matter
Horse always gives fair, considered and balance opinions on all.
I value him as a poster and hold his opinions in the highest regard.
As such, I eagerly anticipate his wise and learned response
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davie wrote:Never!Boxerbeetle wrote:Horse loses all rational perspective when it comes to Fury, so his answer will be interesting indeed.davie wrote:
Horse appears to have effectively body swerved this question.
I too would be intrigued to find his view on this matter
Horse always gives fair, considered and balance opinions on all.
I value him as a poster and hold his opinions in the highest regard.
As such, I eagerly anticipate his wise and learned response