Wilder v Povetkin - who's dirty?

[Kalan]

Look junior... A nanogram is a trillionth of a gram. VADA claims Povetkin had a 10th of a nanogram in one of his samples and all the others tested clear.. Over that they destroy another Ryabinsky fight promotion.. If VADA and the WBC weren't trying to destroy Povetkin and Ryabinsky they would have announced the concentration they claim was in the sample. Povetkin will take lie detector tests this week stating that he never took supplements that could contain Ostarine and never took doses of Ostarine EVER in his life. I believe the man.

I do NOT believe anything VADA or ex-con Victor Conte say because they have lied so many times before... Both Povetkin and Ryabinsky have sterling reputations -- and that's why falsely proclaiming them drug cheats should be punished with at least a 35 million dollar award for defamation.

[montrealsuper]

Haymon would have destroyed Povetkin with this fraud corruption smear campaign however Ryabinsky has the $$$ to save his fighter from this great deception hoax - You wonder how easily Haymon can destroy other fighters who pose risk to his crown jewels because those certain fighters do not have the political protection and $$$ power to deal with this corruption - Boxing is so filthy right now with this foul megalomaniac Haymon trying to take over the sport

[Enlightened-One]

Haymon would have destroyed Povetkin with this fraud corruption smear campaign however Ryabinsky has the $$$ to save his fighter from this great deception hoax - You wonder how easily Haymon can destroy other fighters who pose risk to his crown jewels because those certain fighters do not have the political protection and $$$ power to deal with this corruption - Boxing is so filthy right now with this foul megalomaniac Haymon trying to take over the sport

In terms of your anti-Haymon crusade... do you know if he was responsible for the banking crisis that triggered the world financial recession of 2008?

With all the things you've blamed him for, you might as well add a few more ludicrous accusations.

[Kalan]

Haymon would have destroyed Povetkin with this fraud corruption smear campaign however Ryabinsky has the $$$ to save his fighter from this great deception hoax - You wonder how easily Haymon can destroy other fighters who pose risk to his crown jewels because those certain fighters do not have the political protection and $$$ power to deal with this corruption - Boxing is so filthy right now with this foul megalomaniac Haymon trying to take over the sport

In terms of your anti-Haymon crusade... do you know if he was responsible for the banking crisis that triggered the world financial recession of 2008?

With all the things you've blamed him for, you might as well add a few more ludicrous accusations.

The man responsible for the Great Recession and global financial meltdown was Dubya Bush-- and the lack of oversight and policies of his administration... I doubt if Al Haymon could have done any worse -- if we were unfortunate enough to have him as president... He'd be better than Trump

[Enlightened-One]

Haymon would have destroyed Povetkin with this fraud corruption smear campaign however Ryabinsky has the $$$ to save his fighter from this great deception hoax - You wonder how easily Haymon can destroy other fighters who pose risk to his crown jewels because those certain fighters do not have the political protection and $$$ power to deal with this corruption - Boxing is so filthy right now with this foul megalomaniac Haymon trying to take over the sport

In terms of your anti-Haymon crusade... do you know if he was responsible for the banking crisis that triggered the world financial recession of 2008?

With all the things you've blamed him for, you might as well add a few more ludicrous accusations.

The man responsible for the Great Recession and global financial meltdown was Dubya Bush-- and the lack of oversight and policies of his administration... I doubt if Al Haymon could have done any worse -- if we were unfortunate enough to have him as president... He'd be better than Trump

Sorry... I was trying to mock montrealsuper's persistent penchant to blame Al Haymon for everything that has ever gone wrong in history.

My question was only intended to be sarcastic. I didn't want a serious answer.

[Kalan]

I like to get serious answers... intelligent answers... thoughtful answers... knowledgeable answers... and unbiased answers... hopefully in the same post.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Anything but correct answers.

[Rob3_142]

I like to get serious answers... intelligent answers... thoughtful answers... knowledgeable answers... and unbiased answers... hopefully in the same post.

Then you couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo then. Keep jogging Kalan.

Ps. Why did you ignore my question about the B sample?

[montrealsuper]

The truth is hate to those who hate the truth -

[Kalan]

I like to get serious answers... intelligent answers... thoughtful answers... knowledgeable answers... and unbiased answers... hopefully in the same post.

Then you couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo then. Keep jogging Kalan.

Ps. Why did you ignore my question about the B sample?

It doesn't MATTER about any B sample... More than 90% of the time the B sample gets the same result as the A sample... if the A sample was contaminated so is the B sample---because they're the same sample divided into portions A, B, C, and D, and put into separate containers -- just in case a technician fouls up 1 or more testing procedures and somehow gets a false positive... They have other samples to overrule the false positive.

Most of the time they do it right and you don't get a false positive -- but that doesn't mean the original sample wasn't contaminated by using a test tube that had a trace of a banned substance in it before they even started... If VADA is trying to target a foreign athlete they could do anything to destroy his reputation... Remember, convicted and imprisoned PED pusher Victor Conte is associated with VADA -- and VADA lied their asses off about Povetkins' PED tests for the Wilder fight... I wouldn't trust VADA as far as I can throw the Empire State Building.

[Rob3_142]

I like to get serious answers... intelligent answers... thoughtful answers... knowledgeable answers... and unbiased answers... hopefully in the same post.

Then you couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo then. Keep jogging Kalan.

Ps. Why did you ignore my question about the B sample?

It doesn't MATTER about any B sample... More than 90% of the time the B sample gets the same result as the A sample... if the A sample was contaminated so is the B sample---because they're the same sample divided into portions A, B, C, and D, and put into separate containers -- just in case a technician fouls up 1 or more testing procedures and somehow gets a false positive... They have other samples to overrule the false positive.

Most of the time they do it right and you don't get a false positive -- but that doesn't mean the original sample wasn't contaminated by using a test tube that had a trace of a banned substance in it before they even started... If VADA is trying to target a foreign athlete they could do anything to destroy his reputation... Remember, convicted and imprisoned PED pusher Victor Conte is associated with VADA -- and VADA lied their asses off about Povetkins' PED tests for the Wilder fight... I wouldn't trust VADA as far as I can throw the Empire State Building.

You clearly don't know how a B sample works, do you? The whole point is that you take the sample, split into two separate sterile containers. The chance of contamination during the test is negligible, but if there is a positive result, it will be verified by testing the B sample. If both tests come back positive, then it is not contamination, the drug is present in the athlete's system.

The reason contamination is negligible, is because they don't re-use containers. They're disposable. Use them and chuck them. Why would a new sterile container be tainted with Ostarine? It's okay, I already know what you're going to say. The Ostarine was purposely put in the container before the sample was added. If this is your belief, you're more delusional than I gave you credit for.

[Kalan]

Then you couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo then. Keep jogging Kalan.

Ps. Why did you ignore my question about the B sample?

It doesn't MATTER about any B sample... More than 90% of the time the B sample gets the same result as the A sample... if the A sample was contaminated so is the B sample---because they're the same sample divided into portions A, B, C, and D, and put into separate containers -- just in case a technician fouls up 1 or more testing procedures and somehow gets a false positive... They have other samples to overrule the false positive.

Most of the time they do it right and you don't get a false positive -- but that doesn't mean the original sample wasn't contaminated by using a test tube that had a trace of a banned substance in it before they even started... If VADA is trying to target a foreign athlete they could do anything to destroy his reputation... Remember, convicted and imprisoned PED pusher Victor Conte is associated with VADA -- and VADA lied their asses off about Povetkins' PED tests for the Wilder fight... I wouldn't trust VADA as far as I can throw the Empire State Building.

You clearly don't know how a B sample works, do you? The whole point is that you take the sample, split into two separate sterile containers. The chance of contamination during the test is negligible, but if there is a positive result, it will be verified by testing the B sample. If both tests come back positive, then it is not contamination, the drug is present in the athlete's system.

The reason contamination is negligible, is because they don't re-use containers. They're disposable. Use them and chuck them. Why would a new sterile container be tainted with Ostarine? It's okay, I already know what you're going to say. The Ostarine was purposely put in the container before the sample was added. If this is your belief, you're more delusional than I gave you credit for.

You're so full of crap you don't know what's going on... Why would VADA lie about Povetkin's tests for the Wilder fight and smear him with innuendo??? And given the fact they DID that, why wouldn't they no do it again??? Since it worked to well to destroy Ryabinsky's Heavyweight Championship Fight promotion, why not try it again??? And why is ex-con PED pusher Victor Conte mixed up with VADA???

You're saying they don't reuse containers -- but what's to stop them??? Like some dentists have been caught reusing one-use items??? Brandon Rios bitched about VADA because they came to take his sample with a test kit that was already broken open...which is not supposed to happen.. They seemed a lot more unprofessional than the Chinese testers who tested him within hours of VADA, and passed him with flying colors... The VADA testers didn't seem to know exactly what they were doing -- and Rios had a sneaky suspicion he might test positive just because of the unprofessional manner of the sample takers prior to the Pacquiao fight.