What's your top 5 ever

Jip
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Re: What's your top 5 ever

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jezzamundo wrote:
Jip wrote:
Cloutov wrote:I don't get all this love for past era. I mean every single sports on the planet got better, bigger, faster and what ever. I can see why SRR, Armstrong and Ali can make the list but to put on the side all of the modern era is kind of dumb. I d put Floyd top 5 ever and SRL to complete.
1.SRR
2.Armstrong
3.Ali
4.Leonard
5.Floyd

To early for them but GGG and Lomachenko could defenitly land on the top 5 in a decade or so.

finaly someone makes sense. every sport in the world, the athletes got better with time, but not in boxing :doh: what a joke, when you look at old videos of old school boxer how slow, stiff and robotic they were, like jack johnson would have a chance against a 87' mike tyson :doh: robinson and ali were ahead of their time, ones in a century kind of talents, not rare, but super rare. floyd is easily top 5-10, loma got the skills to end up top 10, ggg is to stiff, but he can end up the best middleweight ever, i would certainly favour him against hagler.
The reason boxing is party an exception to this rule is that the sport has been in decline for a long time - decreasing in popularity and decreasing in the % of young athletic men taking it up as more and more are turning to other sports such as football, basketball and other combat sports. This has been partly, but not completely offset by boxing becoming a more global sport. Part of the reason older fighters sometimes look slow/stiff/robotic is that the old footage is very choppy, with few frames-per-second. I don't think the quality and quantity of video evidence is enough to assess how good someone like Jack Johnson really was, which is why I tend not to enter into who-beats-who discussions involving fighters from the pre Joe Louis era.

GGG is my favourite fighter and he has no shot in hell of being in the all-time top 5 - he just doesn't have enough time or quality opponents around his weight to make it. I agree that he and Lomachenko are special talents. I've never heard anyone refer to GGG as stiff before - I think he moves really well, he just isn't blessed with great handspeed, but he makes up for it with great timing, technical prowess and power.

maybe it decreased in the usa, but other countrys love boxing too and there it didnt decrease, the opposite happened, it came more popular: russia, ukraine etc. cuba was always top in boxing.

and that you cant make any money in boxing compared to nfl, nba etc is nonsense too, i think nobody ever including michael jordan or tiger woods never made the same amount of money in 1 year as floyd did in his super year vs pac. even feather fisted not so fun to watch guys like timmy are multi millioneres.

boxing is a poor mans sport, black people were very very poor back in the 40-80 and thats why so muched box, now the poorest come from russia, from ukraine and they dominate boxing. the quality of boxing is as good as ever.

in terms of record you are totaly right, ggg cant have the best record of any middleweight, cause no hagler, hearns. leonard and hopkins around. but i dont go by record, i go by who beats who, who is actualy the best, the best skills? the answer is somebody with a not so great record at middleweight cause he moved up, yet still no hopkins, no hagler nobody would have a chance against a 93 jones. records doesnt matter nothing, when you dont have enough quality. glowacki, donaire, toney, all had much more fights, more better opponents when they faced usyk, rigo and jones and all lost, why cause their skill set was inferior to the other guys with less good record!!!
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