The Sun and Scouse Boxers

[mfc_se15]

Anyone able to actually post a link to what Haye supposedly did/posted? I don't have a twitter account and from trying to look on there all I can see are celeb based tweets of who he was with on New Years Eve and some statement from the promotional company about fake Haye accounts.

[jizzle]

This is his uber post which has fucked off a whole load of cabbies....

Boxer makes money shocka...

https://twitter.com/mrdavidhaye/status/ ... 0511424512

[Boxerbeetle]

This is his uber post which has fucked off a whole load of cabbies....

Boxer makes money shocka...

https://twitter.com/mrdavidhaye/status/ ... 0511424512

Looks like he was advertising Bud, rather than Uber.

[danconnollyeire]

I don't look too kindly on people who read The Sun. Fair play on Bellew for taking such a stance.

Why not?

Because if you do, you're ill of mind and should seek help

[TheGman]

Unfortunate the some people are using this to get in the same old sly digs at Scousers.

My issue isn't with what David Haye reads. The man is a gimp and has been for years. My issue is with people that trot out the same crap time after time.

'Self pity city', 'victims', 'love a bandwagon', 'just let it go' - the exact same rhetoric used by main stream media for decades to discourage support for the Hillsborough campaign. It's a genuine shame that some people, even after the findings and proof that has come to light in the past few years, continue to buy into that shite, consciously or subconsciously . Would you say the same if your city had been affected in the same way? To be honest, I don't know which answer is better. If you wouldn't, you're a hypocrite. If you would, you're spineless. Imagine if the people of Liverpool had listened to and followed that patronising bullshit for the past 25 years. You'd think the last few years would have changed people's minds. Apparently not.

Well said mate,same crap over and over. There are some heartless b*stards in this world who dont give a flying fck about whats right or wrong humainly just about what they think at that time or what their friends are saying. Im a liverpool fan and just across the mersey from liverpool and im damn proud of it

[Dixonian]

They're not really the same, they all have very different staff and governance structures. When the News of the World got done for phone hacking, the Sunday Times didn't need to close.

I expect The Sun has very different staff and governance structures now than they did 27 years ago.

How long is this ridiculous grudge going to be maintained ?

In virtually any other circumstance you can imagine relating to what was at the end of the day only hurtful words, no matter how disgusting the sentiment, the prevailing wisdom would be to move on and let bygones be bygones. Your average scouser of that generation and every one since however has self pity and a victim mentality hardwired into their emotional makeup.

You really are a moron aren't you to try and say the rag is ran by different people then call it a ridiculous grudge, then to make a statement as sweeping as the average scouser has a self pity and victim mentality hardwired into their emotional make up.

I may be the most bitter Evertonian on the planet but we all had friends and relatives at that game, for then that rag to drag their name through the mud with lies and then wonder why we get annoyed that anyone would read the rag, I would love to see your reaction had a similar story involving people you know and see if it was a ridiculous grudge then.

I'm far from the internet hardman or keyboard warrior but i would love to see you say that to one of our faces you piece of poo

Well said. And has The Sun ever apologised? I certainly never heard anything. But I do remember their front page after the Hillsborough inquest (hint: the inquest doesn't get a single mention despite every other newspaper putting it on their front page):

https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/7 ... wsrc%5Etfw

[Dixonian]

Unfortunate the some people are using this to get in the same old sly digs at Scousers.

My issue isn't with what David Haye reads. The man is a gimp and has been for years. My issue is with people that trot out the same crap time after time.

'Self pity city', 'victims', 'love a bandwagon', 'just let it go' - the exact same rhetoric used by main stream media for decades to discourage support for the Hillsborough campaign. It's a genuine shame that some people, even after the findings and proof that has come to light in the past few years, continue to buy into that shite, consciously or subconsciously . Would you say the same if your city had been affected in the same way? To be honest, I don't know which answer is better. If you wouldn't, you're a hypocrite. If you would, you're spineless. Imagine if the people of Liverpool had listened to and followed that patronising bullshit for the past 25 years. You'd think the last few years would have changed people's minds. Apparently not.

[CaptainSpacerod]

You really are a moron aren't you to try and say the rag is ran by different people then call it a ridiculous grudge, then to make a statement as sweeping as the average scouser has a self pity and victim mentality hardwired into their emotional make up.

I may be the most bitter Evertonian on the planet but we all had friends and relatives at that game, for then that rag to drag their name through the mud with lies and then wonder why we get annoyed that anyone would read the rag, I would love to see your reaction had a similar story involving people you know and see if it was a ridiculous grudge then.

I'm far from the internet hardman or keyboard warrior but i would love to see you say that to one of our faces you piece of poo

You're right, Everton fans are bitter and jealous, banging on about Lescott for years and booing a player who gave you great service before his move to a bigger club.

I think your last sentence pretty much sums you up. I stand by what I say.

Maybe my average scouser point was a slight exaggeration but certainly a very loud minority seem to take any and every opportunity to feel sorry for themselves and claim victimhood, witness the sickening campaign to free that yobbo who was convicted of attempted murder in Bulgaria

[banjo]

I was born into a family of mostly scousers so I do have a connection with the city and the people and I do find scousers to be very insular as if their city is the only one that got dumped on during the Thatcher years. I don't think anywhere got it quite as bad as Yorkshire did to be honest.

With regards to The Sun, it's generally read by pig ignorant "I'm not a racist but..." beer bellied builders who aren't quite literate enough to read the Daily Mail.

[Covfefe]

How far do you take this line of thinking though?

Murdock owns the paper and is Australian, I won't talk to any Aussies.

Murdoch owns Sky so I won't watch their TV.

The Sun was printed on paper so I'll use my hand to wipe my arse.

[TheGman]

I expect The Sun has very different staff and governance structures now than they did 27 years ago.

How long is this ridiculous grudge going to be maintained ?

In virtually any other circumstance you can imagine relating to what was at the end of the day only hurtful words, no matter how disgusting the sentiment, the prevailing wisdom would be to move on and let bygones be bygones. Your average scouser of that generation and every one since however has self pity and a victim mentality hardwired into their emotional makeup.

You really are a moron aren't you to try and say the rag is ran by different people then call it a ridiculous grudge, then to make a statement as sweeping as the average scouser has a self pity and victim mentality hardwired into their emotional make up.

I may be the most bitter Evertonian on the planet but we all had friends and relatives at that game, for then that rag to drag their name through the mud with lies and then wonder why we get annoyed that anyone would read the rag, I would love to see your reaction had a similar story involving people you know and see if it was a ridiculous grudge then.

I'm far from the internet hardman or keyboard warrior but i would love to see you say that to one of our faces you piece of poo

Well said. And has The Sun ever apologised? I certainly never heard anything. But I do remember their front page after the Hillsborough inquest (hint: the inquest doesn't get a single mention despite every other newspaper putting it on their front page):

https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/7 ... wsrc%5Etfw

I think they did apologise but they can stick it

[Noxy]

I expect The Sun has very different staff and governance structures now than they did 27 years ago.

How long is this ridiculous grudge going to be maintained ?

In virtually any other circumstance you can imagine relating to what was at the end of the day only hurtful words, no matter how disgusting the sentiment, the prevailing wisdom would be to move on and let bygones be bygones. Your average scouser of that generation and every one since however has self pity and a victim mentality hardwired into their emotional makeup.

You really are a moron aren't you to try and say the rag is ran by different people then call it a ridiculous grudge, then to make a statement as sweeping as the average scouser has a self pity and victim mentality hardwired into their emotional make up.

I may be the most bitter Evertonian on the planet but we all had friends and relatives at that game, for then that rag to drag their name through the mud with lies and then wonder why we get annoyed that anyone would read the rag, I would love to see your reaction had a similar story involving people you know and see if it was a ridiculous grudge then.

I'm far from the internet hardman or keyboard warrior but i would love to see you say that to one of our faces you piece of poo

Well said. And has The Sun ever apologised? I certainly never heard anything. But I do remember their front page after the Hillsborough inquest (hint: the inquest doesn't get a single mention despite every other newspaper putting it on their front page):

https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/7 ... wsrc%5Etfw

They apologised, sure they did. How could they not. Whether their apology was accepted is something else

[TheGman]

You really are a moron aren't you to try and say the rag is ran by different people then call it a ridiculous grudge, then to make a statement as sweeping as the average scouser has a self pity and victim mentality hardwired into their emotional make up.

I may be the most bitter Evertonian on the planet but we all had friends and relatives at that game, for then that rag to drag their name through the mud with lies and then wonder why we get annoyed that anyone would read the rag, I would love to see your reaction had a similar story involving people you know and see if it was a ridiculous grudge then.

I'm far from the internet hardman or keyboard warrior but i would love to see you say that to one of our faces you piece of poo

You're right, Everton fans are bitter and jealous, banging on about Lescott for years and booing a player who gave you great service before his move to a bigger club.

I think your last sentence pretty much sums you up. I stand by what I say.

Maybe my average scouser point was a slight exaggeration but certainly a very loud minority seem to take any and every opportunity to feel sorry for themselves and claim victimhood, witness the sickening campaign to free that yobbo who was convicted of attempted murder in Bulgaria

Dya mean the innocent lad who got woken up early hours by police lookin to pin the blame on anyone? Your statements are absolute ridiculous,them families have waited 27 fckin years to grieve their loved ones who died that day cause of that rag that you are defending,its not feeling sorry for themselves its wanting to clear their family and friends names who went to a sporting event and never returned home cause of bad judgement by police then a scumbag paper prints lies about fans pi$$in on their own and robbing the pockets of the dead,so defending their name and passed ones names is not fckin feeling sorry for themselves d1ckhead

[bripez]

They're not really the same, they all have very different staff and governance structures. When the News of the World got done for phone hacking, the Sunday Times didn't need to close.

I expect The Sun has very different staff and governance structures now than they did 27 years ago.

How long is this ridiculous grudge going to be maintained ?

In virtually any other circumstance you can imagine relating to what was at the end of the day only hurtful words, no matter how disgusting the sentiment, the prevailing wisdom would be to move on and let bygones be bygones. Your average scouser of that generation and every one since however has self pity and a victim mentality hardwired into their emotional makeup.

You really are a moron aren't you to try and say the rag is ran by different people then call it a ridiculous grudge, then to make a statement as sweeping as the average scouser has a self pity and victim mentality hardwired into their emotional make up.

I may be the most bitter Evertonian on the planet but we all had friends and relatives at that game, for then that rag to drag their name through the mud with lies and then wonder why we get annoyed that anyone would read the rag, I would love to see your reaction had a similar story involving people you know and see if it was a ridiculous grudge then.

I'm far from the internet hardman or keyboard warrior but i would love to see you say that to one of our faces you piece of poo

I don't think you will find many people who would disagree in principle with what you are saying, but getting aggressive and calling people morons doesn't help.

I haven't heard what Haye or Boomer have said, but if Boomer is trying to latch on to something in order to drum up support/publicity for his fight then surely that would be despicable.

The bit where I (and seemingly others) struggle is that many people seem to pick and choose what they want to boycott depending on what suits them - if you feel so strongly about reading the Sun, do you read the Times/Sunday Times, watch BSkyB, read any books published by Harper Collins or watch any films made by Twentieth Century Fox ?

Sporty Spice got some stick recently about a Sun article or something, yet Jamie Carragher is happy to be paid by the person who owns the Sun yet nobody says a dickie bird.

[Counter-puncher]

Your statements are absolute ridiculous,them families have waites 27 fckin years to grieve their loved ones who died that day cause of that rag that you are defending,

I'm not sure how the grieving process was stopped by a Newspaper article, or indeed how suddenly 27 years later it can suddenly begin.

there was a fight for justic which has thankfully been resolved, but the idea that grieivng simply couldn't happen until that fight for justice was done? I don't get it. if my relative or loved one has died, am i really going to put grieving on hold because a newspaper wrote lies, that I knew to be lies, about them?

they have waited 27 years for justice, sure.

[TheGman]

I expect The Sun has very different staff and governance structures now than they did 27 years ago.

How long is this ridiculous grudge going to be maintained ?

In virtually any other circumstance you can imagine relating to what was at the end of the day only hurtful words, no matter how disgusting the sentiment, the prevailing wisdom would be to move on and let bygones be bygones. Your average scouser of that generation and every one since however has self pity and a victim mentality hardwired into their emotional makeup.

You really are a moron aren't you to try and say the rag is ran by different people then call it a ridiculous grudge, then to make a statement as sweeping as the average scouser has a self pity and victim mentality hardwired into their emotional make up.

I may be the most bitter Evertonian on the planet but we all had friends and relatives at that game, for then that rag to drag their name through the mud with lies and then wonder why we get annoyed that anyone would read the rag, I would love to see your reaction had a similar story involving people you know and see if it was a ridiculous grudge then.

I'm far from the internet hardman or keyboard warrior but i would love to see you say that to one of our faces you piece of poo

I don't think you will find many people who would disagree in principle with what you are saying, but getting aggressive and calling people morons doesn't help.

I haven't heard what Haye or Boomer have said, but if Boomer is trying to latch on to something in order to drum up support/publicity for his fight then surely that would be despicable.

The bit where I (and seemingly others) struggle is that many people seem to pick and choose what they want to boycott depending on what suits them - if you feel so strongly about reading the Sun, do you read the Times/Sunday Times, watch BSkyB, read any books published by Harper Collins or watch any films made by Twentieth Century Fox ?

Sporty Spice got some stick recently about a Sun article or something, yet Jamie Carragher is happy to be paid by the person who owns the Sun yet nobody says a dickie bird.

The scum is the paper that wrote that sh1te,sky never repeated the crap that the scum wrote,a paper has editors who pass the stories to be printed,i subscribe to sky cause sky never said anything,the paper did thats why we dont boycott the tv company. The person who sickened me to death was wayne rooneys dad,when wayne rooney left everton to go to utd his dad personally asked for the scum reporter and sold his story to the scum now thats fckin low,i will never support rooney in anything cause not only did he sell everton out he and his dad sold the story to the scum paper probably as a dig at LFC.

[mickey1975]

Will never know how bad the Bradford fire victims feel because nobody ever hears about it. Or the Heysel Italians. They're certainly good at campaigns the Liverpudlians.

[CaptainSpacerod]

Dya mean the innocent lad who got woken up early hours by police lookin to pin the blame on anyone? Your statements are absolute ridiculous,them families have waited 27 fckin years to grieve their loved ones who died that day cause of that rag that you are defending,its not feeling sorry for themselves its wanting to clear their family and friends names who went to a sporting event and never returned home cause of bad judgement by police then a scumbag paper prints lies about fans pi$$in on their own and robbing the pockets of the dead,so defending their name and passed ones names is not fckin feeling sorry for themselves d1ckhead

I'm not referring to the families of the Hillsborough victims with regard to anything I say, they have every right to bear a grudge.

I'm on about the thousands of others who are always bleating about something or other, the tens of thousands of dirtballs who celebrated Thatcher's death because she made tough economic decisions back in the day, the Anfield scousers who cry and moan when Utd fans sing Hillsborough songs but don't say a word when half the Kop are singing Munich songs, the campaigns and vigils to release the TWICE convicted yobbo in Bulgaria - if he didn't do it someone from his gang of scouse mates did.

You sound like a typical moaning crying Scouser.

[Counter-puncher]

i will never support rooney in anything cause not only did he sell everton out he and his dad sold the story to the scum paper probably as a dig at LFC.

nice to see you're throwing off the scouse reputation for having a persecution-complex and rampant paranoia

[Dixonian]

I expect The Sun has very different staff and governance structures now than they did 27 years ago.

How long is this ridiculous grudge going to be maintained ?

In virtually any other circumstance you can imagine relating to what was at the end of the day only hurtful words, no matter how disgusting the sentiment, the prevailing wisdom would be to move on and let bygones be bygones. Your average scouser of that generation and every one since however has self pity and a victim mentality hardwired into their emotional makeup.

You really are a moron aren't you to try and say the rag is ran by different people then call it a ridiculous grudge, then to make a statement as sweeping as the average scouser has a self pity and victim mentality hardwired into their emotional make up.

I may be the most bitter Evertonian on the planet but we all had friends and relatives at that game, for then that rag to drag their name through the mud with lies and then wonder why we get annoyed that anyone would read the rag, I would love to see your reaction had a similar story involving people you know and see if it was a ridiculous grudge then.

I'm far from the internet hardman or keyboard warrior but i would love to see you say that to one of our faces you piece of poo

I don't think you will find many people who would disagree in principle with what you are saying, but getting aggressive and calling people morons doesn't help.

I haven't heard what Haye or Boomer have said, but if Boomer is trying to latch on to something in order to drum up support/publicity for his fight then surely that would be despicable.

The bit where I (and seemingly others) struggle is that many people seem to pick and choose what they want to boycott depending on what suits them - if you feel so strongly about reading the Sun, do you read the Times/Sunday Times, watch BSkyB, read any books published by Harper Collins or watch any films made by Twentieth Century Fox ?

Sporty Spice got some stick recently about a Sun article or something, yet Jamie Carragher is happy to be paid by the person who owns the Sun yet nobody says a dickie bird.

As someone else has said, there are different management teams/editors directly responsible for each publication. Although, yes, it is part of the same umbrella group and in some instances staff will crossover. But there is a more direct connection with The Sun and their ongoing atrocious 'journalistic' practices. Their refusal to put the Hillsborough inquest on the front page reveals just how despicable they continue to be.

[mickey1975]

And Uber are shite as well. At least here. Haven't got a clue where they're going and then fleece you on your card....

[TheGman]

Your statements are absolute ridiculous,them families have waites 27 fckin years to grieve their loved ones who died that day cause of that rag that you are defending,

I'm not sure how the grieving process was stopped by a Newspaper article, or indeed how suddenly 27 years later it can suddenly begin.

there was a fight for justic which has thankfully been resolved, but the idea that grieivng simply couldn't happen until that fight for justice was done? I don't get it. if my relative or loved one has died, am i really going to put grieving on hold because a newspaper wrote lies, that I knew to be lies, about them?

they have waited 27 years for justice, sure.

The fight for THE TRUTH and JUSTICE FOR THE 96 meant that the grieving process was marred thats what i meant i didnt mean it stopped them greiving. I just hate the way the ppl up and down this country think that families fighting tooth and nail to clear the names of those passed is judged as wallowing in self pity or jumping on a band wagon,boris johnson aswell said something similar. What lengths would people go to to clear the names of loved ones that they knew had an injustice? Birmingham 6,guilford 4 derek bentley to name a few were all these families wallowing in self pity before they were found to be set up??

[Dixonian]

Will never know how bad the Bradford fire victims feel because nobody ever hears about it. Or the Heysel Italians. They're certainly good at campaigns the Liverpudlians.

I must have missed something... Were the Bradford fans accused of deliberately setting light to the stadium and then pissing on the dead?

[mickey1975]

Will never know how bad the Bradford fire victims feel because nobody ever hears about it. Or the Heysel Italians. They're certainly good at campaigns the Liverpudlians.

I must have missed something... Were the Bradford fans accused of deliberately setting light to the stadium and then pissing on the dead?

You missed a lot then. No newspapers involved but a bad do behind the scenes that led to their deaths. Heysel?

[purpleaki]

Dya mean the innocent lad who got woken up early hours by police lookin to pin the blame on anyone? Your statements are absolute ridiculous,them families have waited 27 fckin years to grieve their loved ones who died that day cause of that rag that you are defending,its not feeling sorry for themselves its wanting to clear their family and friends names who went to a sporting event and never returned home cause of bad judgement by police then a scumbag paper prints lies about fans pi$$in on their own and robbing the pockets of the dead,so defending their name and passed ones names is not fckin feeling sorry for themselves d1ckhead

I'm not referring to the families of the Hillsborough victims with regard to anything I say, they have every right to bear a grudge.

I'm on about the thousands of others who are always bleating about something or other, the tens of thousands of dirtballs who celebrated Thatcher's death because she made tough economic decisions back in the day, the Anfield scousers who cry and moan when Utd fans sing Hillsborough songs but don't say a word when half the Kop are singing Munich songs, the campaigns and vigils to release the TWICE convicted yobbo in Bulgaria - if he didn't do it someone from his gang of scouse mates did.

You sound like a typical moaning crying Scouser.

Micheal Shields was given a full royal pardon as he was innocent actually. I have never heard a munich song sang at anfield ever. I guarantee up until the Hillsborough inquest verdicts where announced you where one of the people who believed the lies in the Sun because you clearly have a strange hatred of Scousers.