The Sun and Scouse Boxers

[CaptainSpacerod]

Well my hate for the old bag that u refer to because of the tragedy and how she swept it under the carpet with lies and false stories,its obvious u dont like the people from liverpool and u have got an opportunity to vent ur dislike for the city,thats fine but dont cover it up,do you work for the scum by any chance?

You see there it is right there - the victim mentality.

My point was that your "typical scouser" which I modified to "a loud minority of scousers" behaved in a way that leads me to believe that they have some kind of predisposition to moaning and crying about things unnecessarily which I find annoying and sanctimonious. I don't dislike the city particularly or the vast majority of people who live there and I haven't said that I do.

Any criticism of Liverpool or its people is met with an absurdly over sensitive response by the vocal minority of whining scousers.

This thread proves that point.

[TheGman]

I'm not referring to the families of the Hillsborough victims with regard to anything I say, they have every right to bear a grudge.

I'm on about the thousands of others who are always bleating about something or other, the tens of thousands of dirtballs who celebrated Thatcher's death because she made tough economic decisions back in the day, the Anfield scousers who cry and moan when Utd fans sing Hillsborough songs but don't say a word when half the Kop are singing Munich songs, the campaigns and vigils to release the TWICE convicted yobbo in Bulgaria - if he didn't do it someone from his gang of scouse mates did.

You sound like a typical moaning crying Scouser.

Micheal Shields was given a full royal pardon as he was innocent actually. I have never heard a munich song sang at anfield ever. I guarantee up until the Hillsborough inquest verdicts where announced you where one of the people who believed the lies in the Sun because you clearly have a strange hatred of Scousers.

How many times have you been to Anfield? Granted I've not been for 10 years but in the 90's I were a regular and they did sing Munich songs when United were there, they also did the Steau Bucaresti chants to the blue shite as well, let's not pretend our lot are angels, football fans are generally uneducated yobbos.

Iv been against man utd and everton and i never heard anything about munich or buccharest,iv heard evertonians chantin murderers even when ther not playing liverpool. Liverpool fans can be as bad the next set of fans but i will say this they are very much respectful to opposing teams on anniversaries and tragedies,as is utd,the one team i do remember that didnt respect the minute silence when the truth came out was chelsea. Tbh this topic should never of been brought up its like poking a hornets nest,people are gonna disagree on things and prople will take things the wrong way so i think the poster should of had a long hard think before posting this especially when the whole country know how "sensitive" us scousers are

[ElJefe]

Will never know how bad the Bradford fire victims feel because nobody ever hears about it. Or the Heysel Italians. They're certainly good at campaigns the Liverpudlians.

The Bradford fire was a tragic, freak accident, a disaster of course but where is the need for a 27 year long campaign?

"What about Heysel?" is another classic shout from people who like to get their sly digs in at Liverpool. Firstly, you don't give a sh!t about the people who died there. Don't pretend you do. You, like thousands of others, use a disaster where people lost their lives to point score. Secondly, 14 people were convicted of involuntary manslaughter and 2 officials were given suspended sentences for negligence re: ticketing and policing respectively, English football clubs were punished and rightfully none more so than Liverpool. I am not for one second suggesting that that makes it okay, that it brings those people back or even that it makes it any easier for their families. What I am suggesting is that if you can't tell the difference between a freak accident, a tragedy for which guilty parties were made accountable and a tragedy that was met by lies, a government cover up and years of slander then it's either because you're a thick fvkcing idiot or you've got some weird, twisted hatred of Scousers.

"They're certainly good at campaigns" - You say that is if those families have enjoyed having to fight against an establishment cover up just to clear the names of their family and friends for the past 27 years. In case you hadn't noticed, they haven't fought so they can get their names in the paper, they haven't fought so they can get on TV, they haven't fought out of choice. Do you think that if the right people were made accountable immediately after the disaster that there would have been a 27 year campaign? Of course there fvcking wouldn't. They've struggled and endured an almost 3 decade long campaign but for some bizarre reason people like you would rather have a dig than respect their incredible achievement.

You know nothing of the Bradford fire by the sounds of it, and I'm nobody's idiot.

I'll freely admit that I don't know a great deal about it. From my understanding a fire was lit accidentally (cigarette?) which led to a fire in Bradford's ground, that had been identified as a safety hazard, that killed 56 people. Forgive my ignorance but I'm still not entirely sure how that compares to the government covering up what happened at Hillsborough?

[mickey1975]

There are scousers in jails all over England giving it the old "I met Cilla, Tarby and went to the grand national ". If he'd have been in a jail here he'd have been cocky. I mean what I said, a jails four walls, wether you're in York or Cork.

[purpleaki]

There are scousers in jails all over England giving it the old "I met Cilla, Tarby and went to the grand national ". If he'd have been in a jail here he'd have been cocky. I mean what I said, a jails four walls, wether you're in York or Cork.

No one would blag they've met cilla coz she is a tory.

[TheGman]

Well my hate for the old bag that u refer to because of the tragedy and how she swept it under the carpet with lies and false stories,its obvious u dont like the people from liverpool and u have got an opportunity to vent ur dislike for the city,thats fine but dont cover it up,do you work for the scum by any chance?

You see there it is right there - the victim mentality.

My point was that your "typical scouser" which I modified to "a loud minority of scousers" behaved in a way that leads me to believe that they have some kind of predisposition to moaning and crying about things unnecessarily which I find annoying and sanctimonious. I don't dislike the city particularly or the vast majority of people who live there and I haven't said that I do.

Any criticism of Liverpool or its people is met with an absurdly over sensitive response by the vocal minority of whining scousers.

This thread proves that point.

This thread proves f*** all pal,it shouldnt of been brought up. The majority of ppl on merseyside dont buy the rag,the editor of the rag printed the story,it had nothing to do with BSKYB so the thread shuldnt of been posted

[mickey1975]

The Bradford fire was a tragic, freak accident, a disaster of course but where is the need for a 27 year long campaign?

"What about Heysel?" is another classic shout from people who like to get their sly digs in at Liverpool. Firstly, you don't give a sh!t about the people who died there. Don't pretend you do. You, like thousands of others, use a disaster where people lost their lives to point score. Secondly, 14 people were convicted of involuntary manslaughter and 2 officials were given suspended sentences for negligence re: ticketing and policing respectively, English football clubs were punished and rightfully none more so than Liverpool. I am not for one second suggesting that that makes it okay, that it brings those people back or even that it makes it any easier for their families. What I am suggesting is that if you can't tell the difference between a freak accident, a tragedy for which guilty parties were made accountable and a tragedy that was met by lies, a government cover up and years of slander then it's either because you're a thick fvkcing idiot or you've got some weird, twisted hatred of Scousers.

"They're certainly good at campaigns" - You say that is if those families have enjoyed having to fight against an establishment cover up just to clear the names of their family and friends for the past 27 years. In case you hadn't noticed, they haven't fought so they can get their names in the paper, they haven't fought so they can get on TV, they haven't fought out of choice. Do you think that if the right people were made accountable immediately after the disaster that there would have been a 27 year campaign? Of course there fvcking wouldn't. They've struggled and endured an almost 3 decade long campaign but for some bizarre reason people like you would rather have a dig than respect their incredible achievement.

You know nothing of the Bradford fire by the sounds of it, and I'm nobody's idiot.

I'll freely admit that I don't know a great deal about it. From my understanding a fire was lit accidentally (cigarette?) which led to a fire in Bradford's ground, that had been identified as a safety hazard, that killed 56 people. Forgive my ignorance but I'm still not entirely sure how that compares to the government covering up what happened at Hillsborough?

Read up on it then #Jft56

[mickey1975]

Go on then, I'm on a roll... Who caused Heysel? And don't say it was 14 blokes.

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

Iv been against man utd and everton and i never heard anything about munich or buccharest,iv heard evertonians chantin murderers even when ther not playing liverpool. Liverpool fans can be as bad the next set of fans but i will say this they are very much respectful to opposing teams on anniversaries and tragedies,as is utd,the one team i do remember that didnt respect the minute silence when the truth came out was chelsea.

Oh come on, the Munich songs have been sung since the seventies, that's as far back as I can remember, the kids even knew the words to the song...

'Who's that lying on the runway
Who's that lying in the snow...'

What happened with Hillsborough was a disgrace but don't change history or try to absolve yourselves from your wrongdoings - you would need to carry Anfield brick by brick to Lourdes to be absolved of the Munich songs for the amount of years a section of the crowdsang it (and if you want to blame wools and the Welsh, I'll take it )

Tbh this topic should never of been brought up its like poking a hornets nest,people are gonna disagree on things and prople will take things the wrong way so i think the poster should of had a long hard think before posting this especially when the whole country know how "sensitive" us scousers are

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This is what probably gets peoples backs up, you aren't a protected species - if folk want to debate things, debate it like an adult and prove him wrong.

[TheGman]

Will never know how bad the Bradford fire victims feel because nobody ever hears about it. Or the Heysel Italians. They're certainly good at campaigns the Liverpudlians.

The Bradford fire was a tragic, freak accident, a disaster of course but where is the need for a 27 year long campaign?

"What about Heysel?" is another classic shout from people who like to get their sly digs in at Liverpool. Firstly, you don't give a sh!t about the people who died there. Don't pretend you do. You, like thousands of others, use a disaster where people lost their lives to point score. Secondly, 14 people were convicted of involuntary manslaughter and 2 officials were given suspended sentences for negligence re: ticketing and policing respectively, English football clubs were punished and rightfully none more so than Liverpool. I am not for one second suggesting that that makes it okay, that it brings those people back or even that it makes it any easier for their families. What I am suggesting is that if you can't tell the difference between a freak accident, a tragedy for which guilty parties were made accountable and a tragedy that was met by lies, a government cover up and years of slander then it's either because you're a thick fvkcing idiot or you've got some weird, twisted hatred of Scousers.

"They're certainly good at campaigns" - You say that is if those families have enjoyed having to fight against an establishment cover up just to clear the names of their family and friends for the past 27 years. In case you hadn't noticed, they haven't fought so they can get their names in the paper, they haven't fought so they can get on TV, they haven't fought out of choice. Do you think that if the right people were made accountable immediately after the disaster that there would have been a 27 year campaign? Of course there fvcking wouldn't. They've struggled and endured an almost 3 decade long campaign but for some bizarre reason people like you would rather have a dig than respect their incredible achievement.

Well said again,mickey75 is a well known scouse hater and he hasnt got a clue about heysel cause if he did he wouldnt of mentioned it. Like i said early its abit of a raw subject to bring up and should not of been posted on a boxing site

[mickey1975]

I'm a well known gypo lover, aren't I? Didn't know I had a reputation on hear for disrespecting the bin dippers.

[banjo]

Go on then, I'm on a roll... Who caused Heysel? And don't say it was 14 blokes.

Tanked up fans giving it large. Football fan mentality though, I can't think of any other sport in the UK other than boxing which brings out the worst in people in the stands.

[mickey1975]

Well known? Nobody in my entire life has ever noticed... Get a grip and go buy The Sun and knock one off or something...

[TheGman]

Iv been against man utd and everton and i never heard anything about munich or buccharest,iv heard evertonians chantin murderers even when ther not playing liverpool. Liverpool fans can be as bad the next set of fans but i will say this they are very much respectful to opposing teams on anniversaries and tragedies,as is utd,the one team i do remember that didnt respect the minute silence when the truth came out was chelsea.

Oh come on, the Munich songs have been sung since the seventies, that's as far back as I can remember, the kids even knew the words to the song...

'Who's that lying on the runway
Who's that lying in the snow...'

What happened with Hillsborough was a disgrace but don't change history or try to absolve yourselves from your wrongdoings - you would need to carry Anfield brick by brick to Lourdes to be absolved of the Munich songs for the amount of years a section of the crowdsang it (and if you want to blame wools and the Welsh, I'll take it )

Tbh this topic should never of been brought up its like poking a hornets nest,people are gonna disagree on things and prople will take things the wrong way so i think the poster should of had a long hard think before posting this especially when the whole country know how "sensitive" us scousers are

This is what probably gets peoples backs up, you aren't a protected species - if folk want to debate things, debate it like an adult and prove him wrong. [/quote]
Fat git ive been going to anfield from mid 90's to about 5/6 years ago when i had a couple of kids and my priorities changed,since iv been going to anfield i havent heard the munich song,iv heard the gary neville song but not the munich one and thats the truth. The reason i say it shouldnt be brought up is just look at what captainsh1tpoke has wrote look at what micky has wrote,they bring things up taht they know f all about "what about heysel?" "What about bradford" both were tragedies that could of been avoided and people were arrested for it,apart from liverpool fans at hilsborough did anyone else get arrested in 1989? No they didnt and havent to this day,did police go off work with stress? Yes on full pay,even the ones that knew the truth. Liverpool fans who were there was stressed aswell probably had to give up work because of it but did they get £20,000+ for their sick? Did they fck they got state sickness and was probably probed by the government to prove their not stressed but the old plod could stay off for years for stress for the disaster that they caused

[Emmseegee]

The way I see it is simple, everyone has their own right to hold a grudge against a company or individual when there is a bad history. I see no problem with 'scousers' refusing to buy The Sun but what I do have a problem with is when they criticise others who do.

Lots of people have beliefs or habits that I dont agree with but thats their own personal choice. Not my place to start calling them scum for not holding the same grudges or beliefs as me.

[banjo]

The Sun was just a joke though, this is the paper which would have a big story on the front page about somebody famous being a sexual deviant yet a couple of pages later featured a 16 year old girl with her tits out.

[TheGman]

I'm a well known gypo lover, aren't I? Didn't know I had a reputation on hear for disrespecting the bin dippers.

Ha, you are a child mickey

[mickey1975]

Let's hope Haye banjo's him, Enzo style, and then starts slapping him with The Sun.

[ElJefe]

Let's hope Haye banjo's him, Enzo style, and then starts slapping him with The Sun.

Starts off trying to have a serious argument, gets made to look like a pudendum and resorts to this. Judging by your username I'm guessing your a grown "man" that is taking pleasure out of trying to winding people up over a human disaster. Have a word with yourself you sad piece of sh!t.

[Dixonian]

Will never know how bad the Bradford fire victims feel because nobody ever hears about it. Or the Heysel Italians. They're certainly good at campaigns the Liverpudlians.

The Bradford fire was a tragic, freak accident, a disaster of course but where is the need for a 27 year long campaign?

"What about Heysel?" is another classic shout from people who like to get their sly digs in at Liverpool. Firstly, you don't give a sh!t about the people who died there. Don't pretend you do. You, like thousands of others, use a disaster where people lost their lives to point score. Secondly, 14 people were convicted of involuntary manslaughter and 2 officials were given suspended sentences for negligence re: ticketing and policing respectively, English football clubs were punished and rightfully none more so than Liverpool. I am not for one second suggesting that that makes it okay, that it brings those people back or even that it makes it any easier for their families. What I am suggesting is that if you can't tell the difference between a freak accident, a tragedy for which guilty parties were made accountable and a tragedy that was met by lies, a government cover up and years of slander then it's either because you're a thick fvkcing idiot or you've got some weird, twisted hatred of Scousers.

"They're certainly good at campaigns" - You say that is if those families have enjoyed having to fight against an establishment cover up just to clear the names of their family and friends for the past 27 years. In case you hadn't noticed, they haven't fought so they can get their names in the paper, they haven't fought so they can get on TV, they haven't fought out of choice. Do you think that if the right people were made accountable immediately after the disaster that there would have been a 27 year campaign? Of course there fvcking wouldn't. They've struggled and endured an almost 3 decade long campaign but for some bizarre reason people like you would rather have a dig than respect their incredible achievement.

Well I couldn't put it better than that.

[TheGman]

Let's hope Haye banjo's him, Enzo style, and then starts slapping him with The Sun.

Starts off trying to have a serious argument, gets made to look like a pudendum and resorts to this. Judging by your username I'm guessing your a grown "man" that is taking pleasure out of trying to winding people up over a human disaster. Have a word with yourself you sad piece of sh!t.

X2 mickey usually you are a good poster and have a good debate but eljefe just made you look stupid and you show your true self,a sad excuse of a man who cant really take getting told the truth which makes his first theory of what happened void

[mickey1975]

I have better people to worry about than elscouser. I know my facts, don't worry about that. He doesn't. I won't resort to insults, you little scouse prick I'd beat in about five seconds..

[TheGman]

You know nothing of the Bradford fire by the sounds of it, and I'm nobody's idiot.

I'll freely admit that I don't know a great deal about it. From my understanding a fire was lit accidentally (cigarette?) which led to a fire in Bradford's ground, that had been identified as a safety hazard, that killed 56 people. Forgive my ignorance but I'm still not entirely sure how that compares to the government covering up what happened at Hillsborough?

Read up on it then #Jft56

You read up on heysel and hillsborough then mickey cause you obviously know fck all about them with the tripe thats been printed by you on here

[purpleaki]

I have better people to worry about than elscouser. I know my facts, don't worry about that. He doesn't. I won't resort to insults, you little scouse prick I'd beat in about five seconds..

You've just contradicted yourself in the same sentence.

[mickey1975]

Irony, Laaaaaa