Pacquiao’s next fight will be outside US – Arum

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Enlightened-One wrote:For example: Floyd Mayweather Jr. was guaranteed a $32m payday to face the very beatable Andre Berto. The size of Money May's purse would not have been any greater had he fought Keith Thurman instead.
Mayweather-Thurman would have been much bigger and pulled 3 times the revs and money for Floyd... Because Thurman had a real chance to win.
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Kalan wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:For example: Floyd Mayweather Jr. was guaranteed a $32m payday to face the very beatable Andre Berto. The size of Money May's purse would not have been any greater had he fought Keith Thurman instead.

Mayweather-Thurman would have been much bigger and pulled 3 times the revs and money for Floyd
... Because Thurman had a real chance to win.
This is incorrect. Please quote Thurmans PPV's buy-rate figures to back-up your claims. In fact, please provide any evidence of casuals clamouring to see Keith Thurman fight. Hard-core fans are a relative drop in the ocean in terms of viewing figures for the sport of boxing.
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Horn does not "suck". Not sure why people are saying that when I'm sure they've only watched some highlights at best. I've been following his career for a few years now. If this fight takes place in his home country of Aus, it'll be a hell of a lot more competitive than the Vargas, Algieri and Rios fights. Screenshot this reply.
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If What Bob Arum is true about Manny picking his opponents, I would have to say that Manny's selection of opponents recently rivals that of Wilder, and should be criticized for it. Rios, Algieri, Bradley, now Horn? Bradley was good but 3 times knowing he could beat him easily shows he was just afraid to take on some of the other available fighters. Call it what it is folks. For those of you out there that criticize other boxers for cherry picking, don't be a fornicating hypocrite. Floyd cherry picked his last opponent. Pac has cherry picked his last several opponents. It shows that they are no where near on the same level.
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Mr. Plainview wrote:Horn does not "suck". Not sure why people are saying that when I'm sure they've only watched some highlights at best. I've been following his career for a few years now. If this fight takes place in his home country of Aus, it'll be a hell of a lot more competitive than the Vargas, Algieri and Rios fights. Screenshot this reply.
When you go life in death with Randall Bailey and get hurt by Ali Funeka you not very good.
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littlepug wrote:After all he has given to the sport I say let him fight who the hell he wants at this stage of his career
I guess your going to pay for it right. I would think there needs to be market for Pacquiao-Horn. I guess your the consumer for that.
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world ranked wrote:
littlepug wrote:After all he has given to the sport I say let him fight who the hell he wants at this stage of his career
I guess your going to pay for it right. I would think there needs to be market for Pacquiao-Horn. I guess your the consumer for that.
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littlepug wrote:
world ranked wrote:
littlepug wrote:After all he has given to the sport I say let him fight who the hell he wants at this stage of his career
I guess your going to pay for it right. I would think there needs to be market for Pacquiao-Horn. I guess your the consumer for that.
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world ranked wrote:
Mr. Plainview wrote:Horn does not "suck". Not sure why people are saying that when I'm sure they've only watched some highlights at best. I've been following his career for a few years now. If this fight takes place in his home country of Aus, it'll be a hell of a lot more competitive than the Vargas, Algieri and Rios fights. Screenshot this reply.
When you go life in death with Randall Bailey and get hurt by Ali Funeka you not very good.
Life and death with Bailey? He stopped him in the later rounds and won every round besides the one he got dropped in. Bailey was always a puncher and Horn walked into one. It happens.

Also he stopped Funeka in 7 rounds and only went down after a massive clash of heads. When the ref started counting he had his hands out like wtf you counting for? I'm not saying he's going to win against Pac, but he doesn't suck. He'd beat Vargas and Rios.
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Lets talk Bailey and Funeka at the times Horn fought them

Bailey - 42yo who hadnt had a meaningful fight of any substance in 4 years when he lost against Devon Alexander. A Puncher yes, but a faded one at that.
46-8-0 former Super Lightweigut Champ

Funeka - 38yo who started his career as a feathereeigjt and fought Horn Welter one of only 3-4 fights hes had at the weight. Last meaningful fight 6 years ago. Has been operating on the South African domestic scene since his loss over Juan Guzman
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Mr. Plainview wrote:
world ranked wrote:
Mr. Plainview wrote:Horn does not "suck". Not sure why people are saying that when I'm sure they've only watched some highlights at best. I've been following his career for a few years now. If this fight takes place in his home country of Aus, it'll be a hell of a lot more competitive than the Vargas, Algieri and Rios fights. Screenshot this reply.
When you go life in death with Randall Bailey and get hurt by Ali Funeka you not very good.
Life and death with Bailey? He stopped him in the later rounds and won every round besides the one he got dropped in. Bailey was always a puncher and Horn walked into one. It happens.

Also he stopped Funeka in 7 rounds and only went down after a massive clash of heads. When the ref started counting he had his hands out like wtf you counting for? I'm not saying he's going to win against Pac, but he doesn't suck. He'd beat Vargas and Rios.
If Randall Bailey your best win how can you he stacks up to Vargas or even a ran down rios. Like him fight legit top 50 welterweight before wanting
an elite one.
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All good points. I'm definitely not saying he beats Pac, I was just addressing those who said he "sucks" when from what ive seen, he's got a good skill set.

I'd still be surprised if this fight gets made anyway
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Hopefully his next fight will be outside and far away, go away. This Paquaio stuff is nauseating.
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