52 fight challenge: Week 1 - Alan Rudkin vs Fighting Harada

[davie]

Alan Rudkins 1965 fight vs Fighting Harada

https://youtu.be/pylS883XqyM

[davie]

Supplementary fight.
Alan Rudkin vs Walter McGowan 2

https://youtu.be/mQ4QOf8DHVk

https://youtu.be/Q8pBwuoP16Q

Not sure how complete the footage is but the fight ended 73 -73.5 on the scorecards so it should be worth scoring

[davie]

British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge thread: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=197079

Here's how we ended 2016

Week 52 - Lennox Lewis vs Evander Holyfield I:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=207714
Week 51 - Howard Winstone vs Vicente Saldivar II:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=207609

Week 50 - Howard Eastman vs Bernard Hopkins:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=207356
Week 49 - Ken Buchanan vs Jim Watt:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=207128
Week 48 - Errol Christie vs Mark Kaylor:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=206870
Week 47 - Herol Graham vs Charles Brewer:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=206601
Week 46 - Chris Eubank vs Ray Close I:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=206336

[Horse]

Nice try Davie, but you posted the same supplementary fight that I posted for Rudkin last time and you messed up the links for the previous threads.

Doing this isn't as easy as it looks.

[Autobarn]

Is this an unofficial 52-fight challenge?

[davie]

Nice try Davie, but you posted the same supplementary fight that I posted for Rudkin last time and you messed up the links for the previous threads.

Doing this isn't as easy as it looks.

Geez, you try to do someone a good turn and this is the thanks you get

[davie]

Is this an unofficial 52-fight challenge?

I'm sure Horses team of lawyers are working on a copyright infringement lawsuit as we speak.

Na, just getting it started, it's still his baby. But he was dragging his heels a little

[davie]

Nice try Davie, but you posted the same supplementary fight that I posted for Rudkin last time and you messed up the links for the previous threads.

Doing this isn't as easy as it looks.

I must have forgotten week 28

Managed to find the win over McGowan instead

Have you ever tried doing this from a smartphone? It's a fornicator!

[Horse]

Have you ever tried doing this from a smartphone? It's a fornicator!

If you are doing it on a phone then I suppose it is forgivable.

Where is the world challenge?

[davie]

Have you ever tried doing this from a smartphone? It's a fornicator!

If you are doing it on a phone then I suppose it is forgivable.

Where is the world challenge?

I did this to allow you time to put together the world one.

I'll put together a list of fights that Davie wants to see.

If you are looking for some suggestions you could do worse that to check out the following treasure troves

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=191116
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=153055
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=207339
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rin ... f_the_Year


Are you doing it here or over with the biffs on CS?

[handsofstone]

Have you ever tried doing this from a smartphone? It's a fornicator!

If you are doing it on a phone then I suppose it is forgivable.

Where is the world challenge?

I did this to allow you time to put together the world one.

I'll put together a list of fights that Davie wants to see.

Are you doing it here or over with the biffs on CS?

I'm sure even a thread involving Alan Rudkin would end up about Mayweather over on CS

[davie]

If you are doing it on a phone then I suppose it is forgivable.

Where is the world challenge?

I did this to allow you time to put together the world one.

I'll put together a list of fights that Davie wants to see.

Are you doing it here or over with the biffs on CS?

I'm sure even a thread involving Alan Rudkin would end up about Mayweather over on CS

Put it on the history forum and we can weigh up how Rudkin might have fared against a 7 foot basketball player

Boxing history forums, where the real experts, historians and boxing connoisseurs hang out

[handsofstone]

I did this to allow you time to put together the world one.

I'll put together a list of fights that Davie wants to see.

Are you doing it here or over with the biffs on CS?

I'm sure even a thread involving Alan Rudkin would end up about Mayweather over on CS

Put it on the history forum and we can weigh up how Rudkin might have fared against a 7 foot basketball player

Boxing history forums, where the real experts, historians and boxing connoisseurs hang out

....and the rest of us are casuals if we disagree

Kalan claiming to have seen Graziano/Zale 2 was a new high/low

[Horse]

I did this to allow you time to put together the world one.

If anything, you should have done the foreign one and I'd have done the British & Irish one.

Are you doing it here or over with the biffs on CS?

I don't have the strength to deal with any of that lot.

I think that maybe you and others should take the lead with the world challenge and I'll just help out.

[davie]

I did this to allow you time to put together the world one.

If anything, you should have done the foreign one and I'd have done the British & Irish one.

Are you doing it here or over with the biffs on CS?

I don't have the strength to deal with any of that lot.

I think that maybe you and others should take the lead with the world challenge and I'll just help out.

Sounds fair.

I'll kick it off but my contribution, like these ones, will be inconsistent, I work away and don't look at it much when i'm home. Might need others to keep it up to speed if I miss the odd week

[davie]

Rudkin vs Harada

1. 8 - 10 Harada. Not the most convincing knockdown but he had him wobbled earlier, good round
2. 9 - 10 Harada. Looks the smaller man but looks strong in clinches. Both landed a reasonable amount in this round
3. 9 - 10 Harada, landing the more telling shots. Not wide rounds but definitely all Harada at this point for me
4. 9 - 10 Harada, the little fella does not like taking a backward step. Rudkin is going to have to hope he tires soon
5. 10 -9 Rudkin. Harada started well but Alan did enough in the last couple minutes. He needed that. Stood his ground more and got off some good body shots
6. 9 - 10 Harada. Not sure if that was a full round but I enjoyed it, good action, starting fast from the bell, Harada caught him a lovely left hook coming out of a clinch
7. 9 - 10 Harada. That's the last 2 rounds he's ran out of his corner, I think he knew he dropped a round and is doubly determined. He wants to respond to everything
8. 9 - 10 Harada. I keep wanting to give something to Rudkin, as he's contributing to the rounds, but Harada is just too much for him. Do these rounds seem short?
9. 10 - 10 Even. Close round. However, at one point Rudkin moves in, throws a 1-2, Harada evades both with nice head movement and throws a jab between the 2 shots that snapped Rudkins head back, lovely little bit of boxing
10. 10 - 9 Rudkin. Both men's ribs took a pounding here, I'll give this to Rudkin as he laded a couple nice shots upstairs too
11. 10 - 9 Rudkin. Harada is tiring and Rudkin can sense it. But Harada did dig in and give it his all in the last minute. Would have been a glimmer of hope here for Rudkin
12. 9 - 10 Harada. Again he responds well, planted his feet and dug in with hard hooks in a couple exchanges, Think he's having to force it, but still got a bit left in the tank
13. 10 - 10. Really good round for this stage of a 15 rounder. Good solid clean shots landed up stairs from either man. Neither deserved to lose the round
14. 9 - 10 Harada, I was scoring this to Rudkin until the last minute, but the little bugger was determined and stuck in there to nick it for my card
15. 10 - 10 Even. another good effort from both men right to the last.

110 - 117 Harada.

Good hard fought fight. Rudkin played his part but Harada has certainly made a fan of me both through his sheer determination and his talent, of which he had both in abundance.
He ran off his stool in most rounds, he never voluntarily took a backwards step, he was in perpetual motion and always throwing but it was his reaction to shipping a punch or losing a round that really impressed me, you could see him become visibly more determined.
He also seemed to have that mentality you see drummed into amateurs. If your opponent lands make sure the judges see you throw some back. But with this little fella, I think it was just that he took it as an insult that you hit him.

Technically he was impressive too. It's easy to miss the little things when someone is constantly boring forward. But his footwork flowed constantly, very light on his feet through the 15 rounds and his head movement was good too.
Rudkin could learn something from watching Harada dip when he threw his jab. When they exchanged lefts, Harada often dropped below Rudkins left while landing on the more upright man, the jab he landed in the 9th was a prime example, evading 2 shots and snapping Rudkins head back with a left.
Equally when Rudkin tried to push him back with a jab, his head moved forward in a straight line behind it, leaving him open to the counter, which Harada was always willing to throw.

Rudkin didn't do a lot wrong but he was facing the better fighter in Tokyo, it was a big ask

[davie]

Rudkin vs McGowan
The commentary at the start talked of Rudkin being sore about the previous decision between the two and he fought like it.
He was the more aggressive from the start and it paid off IMO.
He had a fairly solid lead at the half way mark, think I only gave McGowan one of the first 7. It wasn't one sided but I struggled to give McGowan many rounds.
It was fairly level throughout the rest of the fight, wit Rudkin still doing the pushing but McGowan having a tad more success countering the tireder man.
I suspect if I'd scored it it might have been a 3 or 4 point lead for Rudkin, a deserved win, even if the scorecard only gave him it by a narrow margin

[Horse]

Rudkin - Harada

1. 8 - 10
2. 9 - 10
3. 9 - 10
4. 9 - 10
5. 10 - 9

6. 10 - 9
7. 9 - 10
8. 10 - 10
9. 10 - 9
10. 10 - 9

11. 9 - 10
12. 10 - 9
13. 10 - 9
14. 9 - 10
15. 9 - 10

141-144 Harada

[Horse]

Rudkin - McGowan II

1. 10 - 9 - (4:22-5:55 = 1:33)
2. 10 - 9 - (6:48-9:14 = 2:26)
3. 9 - 10 - (9:49-11:44 = 1:55)
4. 10 - 10 - (12:10-13:58 = 1:48)
5. 10 - 9 - (14:28-17:07 = 2:39) - Probably multiple rounds

6. - - -
7. - - -
8. 10 - 9 - (17:44-20:50 = 3:06) - Rounds 8 & 9 - Don't know how much of each
9. - - -
10. 10 - 10 - (4:10-5:30 = 1:20)

11. 10 - 10 - (5:53-6:38 = 0:45???)
12. 9 - 10 - (6:38-8:55 = 2:17???)
13. 9 - 10 - (9:27-11:14 = 1:47)
14. 10 - 9 - (11:44-13:15 = 1:31)
15. 9 - 10 - (13:56-16:22 = 2:26)

146-145 Rudkin


Ring time - 23:33
Corner time - 4:55

They showed almost 5 minutes of the fighters sitting in their corners instead of showing an extra 5 minutes of actual fight footage. Baffling.

Hopefully I calculated that lot accurately. There wasn't enough footage to have a proper opinion about the fight, but Rudkin probably deserved it.

Video 1 - Rounds 1-8
Video 2 - Rounds 10-15