Jack Johnson vs Jack Dempsey?

Crease · Post by **Crease** » 09 Mar 2006, 08:28

Did Jack Johnson ever encounter Jack Dempsey in the ring?

I remember being in a boxing forum once and a fella was discussing the unconfirmed reports of the fight.

Anyone know what the crack is?

sockdolager · Post by **sockdolager** » 09 Mar 2006, 08:38

Im pretty sure this encounter never happened, but there are plenty of folks on this forum that can answer this question better than I. As for a "fantasy matchup", Id take Johnson in a decision, or late late KO, like rnd 35

shanbopop · Post by **shanbopop** » 09 Mar 2006, 12:07

Johnson would have hammered Dempsey late in the fight.Of course Dempsey had hammers for fists so i wouldnt have ruled out a KO in favor of Dempsey.

The Scranton Assassin · Post by **The Scranton Assassin** » 09 Mar 2006, 14:36

This would be a great fight. If it was a 10 or 12 rounder Dempsey by decision. 15 - 45 rounder Johnson by decision bossible late ko

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 09 Mar 2006, 15:01

Jack Johnson was still fighting as a competitive fighter when Jack Dempsey was champion---Johnson was to have a match against Luis Firpo, but during an exhibition bout with the "Wild Bull of The Pampas" he dropped Firpo over and over again---so the Firpo camp denied that fight from actually happening.

Johnson asked Dempsey to fight him a few times, but the fight never did come into fruitation---even though I think even an old Jack Johnson would have given Dempsey trouble.

surf-bat · Post by **surf-bat** » 09 Mar 2006, 15:10

Dempsey by KO late. He was much faster than most of the guys JJ fought. Johnson's clinching tactics would be difficult against JD, like trying to contain a squirming, clawing wildcat. He would give Dempsey a hard time with his cutting counterpunches, but sooner or later he's gonna start getting tagged. He was not the fleet-footed runner that Tunney was, so I don't think his footwork could get him out of the way.

THE DANCING MASTER · Post by **THE DANCING MASTER** » 10 Mar 2006, 16:54

I pick Johnson, as well. I think he had the defensive skills to hold Dempsey off. The longer the fight went, the better Johnson's chances would have become.

surf-bat · Post by **surf-bat** » 11 Mar 2006, 00:03

THE DANCING MASTER wrote:I pick Johnson, as well. I think he had the defensive skills to hold Dempsey off. The longer the fight went, the better Johnson's chances would have become.

I dunno....JJ would have to be blocking A LOT of punches here. A lot more(and a lot harder and faster) than he's used to. could he do it for 15 rounds?? I don't think so personally.