Did Pedraza throw the fight to Davis?

[montrealsuper]

Lou DiBella said on Boxing Talk today that his fighter Pedraza had no strategy vs Gerv Davis and he never saw a fighter throw away all his advantages and the few instances when Pedraza did use his skills he did well in a few flashes in the fight - sounds like a thrown fight in order to build Davis into a star - no sweat off DiBella's back as he works for PBC and AH anyway so he will benefit by working with Gerv Davis in the future as Davis appears to be being built up as one of AHs key crown jewel cash cows - Floyd said that there's no chance of putting Davis vs Lomachenko because they need to make smart business decisions and be patient (in other words protect Davis from having his career destroyed by Lomachecnko) - Is it possible Pedraza was paid off to throw the fight to Davis? I say yes

[jockpunk]

Possible? Yes. Likely? No. Aside from like a mayweather there is almost always more money in having a Puerto rican star than an African American star,

[montrealsuper]

Possible? Yes. Likely? No. Aside from like a mayweather there is almost always more money in having a Puerto rican star than an African American star,

Not true - clearly they are trying to build up Davis to be another Floyd calibre star - Pedraza did not sell on his own like a Tito or Cotto - it looks like Pedraza was used as a pawn to sacrifice to Davis -

[jujigatame]

No. Pedraza is not that good. He got a gift of a vacant title by beating the very mediocre Klimov. Then in his first defense he barely scraped by Edner Cherry. His best win was Stephen Smith, but I don't think either he or Smith are among the top 10 in the division.

[littlepug]

doubtful, this is real life not pulp fiction

[jockpunk]

Possible? Yes. Likely? No. Aside from like a mayweather there is almost always more money in having a Puerto rican star than an African American star,

Not true - clearly they are trying to build up Davis to be another Floyd calibre star - Pedraza did not sell on his own like a Tito or Cotto - it looks like Pedraza was used as a pawn to sacrifice to Davis -

It is absolutely true. Both Tito and Cotto were bigger than any black fighter other than Floyd. I never thought pedraza was that good, but it is obvious that Puerto rico is in desperate need of a star. There is very high likelihood that given equal ability, pedraza would have end up making way more money than davis. So if there was a benefit to having anyone take the dive, it would have been daivs that would have done so. Davis beat him fair and square, but to say pedraza was a pawn is just dumb. It was a pick em fight and the fighter who had never beaten anybody turned out to be better than most people had thought.

[ElJefe]

Verdejo was/is always going to be the next Puerto Rican star, not Pedraza. Regardless, why does everything need to be a conspiracy? A solid title holder got beat by a really talented prospect - it happens.

[darkstar81]

Verdejo was/is always going to be the next Puerto Rican star, not Pedraza. Regardless, why does everything need to be a conspiracy? A solid title holder got beat by a really talented prospect - it happens.

This. Why can't it just be that Pedraza lost?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Dear God fornicate off. Why would he take that much punishment for a dive? I know you're a troll, but at least try and be a decent one.

[Tanzio]

Verdejo was/is always going to be the next Puerto Rican star, not Pedraza. Regardless, why does everything need to be a conspiracy? A solid title holder got beat by a really talented prospect - it happens.

This. Why can't it just be that Pedraza lost?

Because they can't spend a month calling it a robbery?

[Oiky]

No he didn't that's stupid talk

[montrealsuper]

No he didn't that's stupid talk

Explian why Pedraza suddenly decides to NOT USE his skills and advantages? no one is that stupid especially not a world class boxer - Read the DiBella interview at boxing talk please thanks

[Oiky]

No he didn't that's stupid talk

Explian why Pedraza suddenly decides to NOT USE his skills and advantages? no one is that stupid especially not a world class boxer - Read the DiBella interview at boxing talk please thanks

Have you considered a career in WWE ? Maybe you could write some story lines for them

[Baby Face Finster]

Pedraza didn't throw the fight but he did fight very stupidly by not using his advantages. Why would someone with height and reach decide to try and fight an inside fight against a shorter more compact and harder puncher? It makes no sense.

[montrealsuper]

Pedraza didn't throw the fight but he did fight very stupidly by not using his advantages. Why would someone with height and reach decide to try and fight an inside fight against a shorter more compact and harder puncher? It makes no sense.

How can you be sure he did not throw the fight? Canelo threw the fight to Floyd - A lot of fights are fixed - especially a lot of fights where AH is involved -

[gilgamesh]

Pedraza didn't throw the fight but he did fight very stupidly by not using his advantages. Why would someone with height and reach decide to try and fight an inside fight against a shorter more compact and harder puncher? It makes no sense.

Especially when you add in the fact that the shorter, more compact, harder puncher was also way faster with his hands on top of that. I'm not sure if Pedraza could've beaten Davis anyway, but he definitely could've done better.

[gilgamesh]

Pedraza didn't throw the fight but he did fight very stupidly by not using his advantages. Why would someone with height and reach decide to try and fight an inside fight against a shorter more compact and harder puncher? It makes no sense.

How can you be sure he did not throw the fight? Canelo threw the fight to Floyd - A lot of fights are fixed - especially a lot of fights where AH is involved -

Canelo did not throw the fight to Floyd, he lost to a superior fighter. Guys usually don't take dives at this level of the sport. Too risky. If somebody is gonna take a dive or fix a fight in all likelihood it's gonna be at some club show somewhere between 2 guys you've never heard of. Guys that are getting paid the kinda money the guys at the top are getting paid have no incentive to be taking dives.

[montrealsuper]

Pedraza didn't throw the fight but he did fight very stupidly by not using his advantages. Why would someone with height and reach decide to try and fight an inside fight against a shorter more compact and harder puncher? It makes no sense.

How can you be sure he did not throw the fight? Canelo threw the fight to Floyd - A lot of fights are fixed - especially a lot of fights where AH is involved -

Canelo did not throw the fight to Floyd, he lost to a superior fighter. Guys usually don't take dives at this level of the sport. Too risky. If somebody is gonna take a dive or fix a fight in all likelihood it's gonna be at some club show somewhere between 2 guys you've never heard of. Guys that are getting paid the kinda money the guys at the top are getting paid have no incentive to be taking dives.

Floyd and Haymon desperately needed a money fight because the previous Floyd fights lost millions so they and Schaefer manipulated Canelo to throw the fight for a purse and a $5m bonus - Just look at the fight and how Canelo barely tried - Oscar didnt even bother to show up because he knew the script - Julio Cesar Chavez didn't show up either - It was the biggest fight in mexican boxing history and Canelo fought with zero intensity or urgency - Canelo knows he can't have the rematch either - Check out this link for proof that it was a fix - this is how the truth comes out via shady leaks - http://diaryofahollywoodstreetking.com/ ... own-hands/

[montrealsuper]

Explain why Canelo NEVER asks for a second chance at Floyd? Because he knows he can't have it -

[jockpunk]

Explain why Canelo NEVER asks for a second chance at Floyd? Because he knows he can't have it -

Because he knows he can't win it?

[Tony1244]

Dear God eff off. Why would he take that much punishment for a dive? I know you're a troll, but at least try and be a decent one.

[Tony1244]

Lou DiBella said on Boxing Talk today that his fighter Pedraza had no strategy vs Gerv Davis and he never saw a fighter throw away all his advantages and the few instances when Pedraza did use his skills he did well in a few flashes in the fight - sounds like a thrown fight in order to build Davis into a star - no sweat off DiBella's back as he works for PBC and AH anyway so he will benefit by working with Gerv Davis in the future as Davis appears to be being built up as one of AHs key crown jewel cash cows - Floyd said that there's no chance of putting Davis vs Lomachenko because they need to make smart business decisions and be patient (in other words protect Davis from having his career destroyed by Lomachecnko) - Is it possible Pedraza was paid off to throw the fight to Davis? I say yes

You are a great contrarian indicator. If you say yes, the answer is no.

[gb]

I love the idea that every time a fighter uses a stupid strategy it means that the fight is fixed. Take Amir Khan as an example; fast feet, fast hands, good accuracy, long reach, moderate power, dodgy chin, truly awful defence. Nevertheless, he regularly goes toe-to-toe in the centre of the ring against people with more power and a better chin. Is this because he's trying to throw the fight? No, it's because the bloke has very little ring intelligence and doesn't realise his own limitations.

[gilgamesh]

How can you be sure he did not throw the fight? Canelo threw the fight to Floyd - A lot of fights are fixed - especially a lot of fights where AH is involved -

Canelo did not throw the fight to Floyd, he lost to a superior fighter. Guys usually don't take dives at this level of the sport. Too risky. If somebody is gonna take a dive or fix a fight in all likelihood it's gonna be at some club show somewhere between 2 guys you've never heard of. Guys that are getting paid the kinda money the guys at the top are getting paid have no incentive to be taking dives.

Floyd and Haymon desperately needed a money fight because the previous Floyd fights lost millions so they and Schaefer manipulated Canelo to throw the fight for a purse and a $5m bonus - Just look at the fight and how Canelo barely tried - Oscar didnt even bother to show up because he knew the script - Julio Cesar Chavez didn't show up either - It was the biggest fight in mexican boxing history and Canelo fought with zero intensity or urgency - Canelo knows he can't have the rematch either - Check out this link for proof that it was a fix - this is how the truth comes out via shady leaks - http://diaryofahollywoodstreetking.com/ ... own-hands/

There was infinitely more upside to be gained by the Boxing world at large and for Canelo to have beaten Floyd. If he'd beaten Floyd that $5 Million dollar bonus and then some would've been part of his purse in every fight he ever had going forward. Canelo didn't throw the fight to Floyd, he just couldn't beat Floyd. He thought he could outbox him. Lots of other guys made that mistake too. He was wrong.

I see you really badly WANT to believe this so I know you're going to keep believing it regardless of what I say, but don't keep going around saying it as if it's the truth because everybody else knows better.

[In the know 85]

Lou DiBella said on Boxing Talk today that his fighter Pedraza had no strategy vs Gerv Davis and he never saw a fighter throw away all his advantages and the few instances when Pedraza did use his skills he did well in a few flashes in the fight - sounds like a thrown fight in order to build Davis into a star - no sweat off DiBella's back as he works for PBC and AH anyway so he will benefit by working with Gerv Davis in the future as Davis appears to be being built up as one of AHs key crown jewel cash cows - Floyd said that there's no chance of putting Davis vs Lomachenko because they need to make smart business decisions and be patient (in other words protect Davis from having his career destroyed by Lomachecnko) - Is it possible Pedraza was paid off to throw the fight to Davis? I say yes

Dumbest post I've seen yet!