Did Pedraza throw the fight to Davis?

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Re: Did Pedraza throw the fight to Davis?

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gilgamesh wrote:
montrealsuper wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Canelo did not throw the fight to Floyd, he lost to a superior fighter. Guys usually don't take dives at this level of the sport. Too risky. If somebody is gonna take a dive or fix a fight in all likelihood it's gonna be at some club show somewhere between 2 guys you've never heard of. Guys that are getting paid the kinda money the guys at the top are getting paid have no incentive to be taking dives.
Floyd and Haymon desperately needed a money fight because the previous Floyd fights lost millions so they and Schaefer manipulated Canelo to throw the fight for a purse and a $5m bonus - Just look at the fight and how Canelo barely tried - Oscar didnt even bother to show up because he knew the script - Julio Cesar Chavez didn't show up either - It was the biggest fight in mexican boxing history and Canelo fought with zero intensity or urgency - Canelo knows he can't have the rematch either - Check out this link for proof that it was a fix - this is how the truth comes out via shady leaks - http://diaryofahollywoodstreetking.com/ ... own-hands/
There was infinitely more upside to be gained by the Boxing world at large and for Canelo to have beaten Floyd. If he'd beaten Floyd that $5 Million dollar bonus and then some would've been part of his purse in every fight he ever had going forward. Canelo didn't throw the fight to Floyd, he just couldn't beat Floyd. He thought he could outbox him. Lots of other guys made that mistake too. He was wrong.

I see you really badly WANT to believe this so I know you're going to keep believing it regardless of what I say, but don't keep going around saying it as if it's the truth because everybody else knows better.
Floyd had the corrupt crook Haymon pulling the strings - Canelo could afford a loss as his future was all ahead just like Leonard could afford the loss to Duran - Look at between rounds before the final round how Canelo's team is dead silent and they didn't have any urgency whatsoever - No doubt they threw the fight for Floyd and Haymon - Schaefer was more loyal to Haymon than Oscar - that article about Haymon has been posted for years now and still has not been pulled down and that site has huge alexa #s -
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Re: Did Pedraza throw the fight to Davis?

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Like I said, everybody else knows better.
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Yes he gave up his world title on purpose. Makes perfect sense.
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Re: Did Pedraza throw the fight to Davis?

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You got to be kidding get bashed then take a dive mate he would have taken the dive before the bashing started if they did throw the fight they are the dumbest diver's in history :lol:
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montrealsuper wrote:Lou DiBella said on Boxing Talk today that his fighter Pedraza had no strategy vs Gerv Davis and he never saw a fighter throw away all his advantages and the few instances when Pedraza did use his skills he did well in a few flashes in the fight - sounds like a thrown fight in order to build Davis into a star - no sweat off DiBella's back as he works for PBC and AH anyway so he will benefit by working with Gerv Davis in the future as Davis appears to be being built up as one of AHs key crown jewel cash cows - Floyd said that there's no chance of putting Davis vs Lomachenko because they need to make smart business decisions and be patient (in other words protect Davis from having his career destroyed by Lomachecnko) - Is it possible Pedraza was paid off to throw the fight to Davis? I say yes :OhYes:

Translation: Davis is a Hot young prospect and montrealsuper is in a panic about it because he doesn't like the "looks" of this prospect.

Wonder why, I ask very sarcastically.
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WHY WHY WHY WHY would Canelo throw the biggest fight of his life for $5m?!??
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darkstar81 wrote:WHY WHY WHY WHY would Canelo throw the biggest fight of his life for $5m?!??
It was his purse and $5m on top of it - Why? Because Haymon desperately needed an opponent who could generate profits for Floyd after two straight money losing fights on the showtime contract - Haymon and Schaefer manipulated Canelo to throw the fight to satisfy showtime and alleviate pressure to face Pacquiao -
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Tony1244 wrote:
montrealsuper wrote:Lou DiBella said on Boxing Talk today that his fighter Pedraza had no strategy vs Gerv Davis and he never saw a fighter throw away all his advantages and the few instances when Pedraza did use his skills he did well in a few flashes in the fight - sounds like a thrown fight in order to build Davis into a star - no sweat off DiBella's back as he works for PBC and AH anyway so he will benefit by working with Gerv Davis in the future as Davis appears to be being built up as one of AHs key crown jewel cash cows - Floyd said that there's no chance of putting Davis vs Lomachenko because they need to make smart business decisions and be patient (in other words protect Davis from having his career destroyed by Lomachecnko) - Is it possible Pedraza was paid off to throw the fight to Davis? I say yes :OhYes:

Translation: Davis is a Hot young prospect and montrealsuper is in a panic about it because he doesn't like the "looks" of this prospect.

Wonder why, I ask very sarcastically.
Davis could be special but he's just another protected Haymon pawn - Dibella flat out said his guy Pedraza used the absolute wrong worst tactics on Davis - no world champion level fighter does that out of stupidity - sounds exactly like a thrown fight in disguise - Haymon manipulates everything: this was told to us by malignaggi :TU:
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We will never know how good Davis is because he will be protected and he will never have to fight the best guys like Lomachenko and other fighters that Haymon does not control - he will be carefully protected as Floyd said at the press conference after - Can't yall see how Floyd and Haymon are going to ruin boxing??? :doh: It's gonna be just like Stevenson and WIlder all over again and again and again - BS low risk no risk farce fights that prove little or nothing - That's all you get from Haymon and Floyd -
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Re: Did Pedraza throw the fight to Davis?

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I don't see how Davis is comparable to Wilder in the slightest. Davis just beat Pedraza in his 17th pro fight. When Wilder had 17 pro fights, he was still fighting the most abject scrubs imaginable.
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This place never fails to amuse me
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jujigatame wrote:I don't see how Davis is comparable to Wilder in the slightest. Davis just beat Pedraza in his 17th pro fight. When Wilder had 17 pro fights, he was still fighting the most abject scrubs imaginable.
Carefully protected AH fighters
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Re: Did Pedraza throw the fight to Davis?

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I dunno if fighting Jose Pedraza in your 17th fight counts as "carefully protected".
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Re: Did Pedraza throw the fight to Davis?

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montrealsuper wrote:
darkstar81 wrote:WHY WHY WHY WHY would Canelo throw the biggest fight of his life for $5m?!??
It was his purse and $5m on top of it - Why? Because Haymon desperately needed an opponent who could generate profits for Floyd after two straight money losing fights on the showtime contract - Haymon and Schaefer manipulated Canelo to throw the fight to satisfy showtime and alleviate pressure to face Pacquiao -
My question was why would Canelo do it for an extra 5m?
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Re: Did Pedraza throw the fight to Davis?

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darkstar81 wrote:
montrealsuper wrote:
darkstar81 wrote:WHY WHY WHY WHY would Canelo throw the biggest fight of his life for $5m?!??
It was his purse and $5m on top of it - Why? Because Haymon desperately needed an opponent who could generate profits for Floyd after two straight money losing fights on the showtime contract - Haymon and Schaefer manipulated Canelo to throw the fight to satisfy showtime and alleviate pressure to face Pacquiao -
My question was why would Canelo do it for an extra 5m?
Because he had to - the puppetmasters priority was Floyd and Floyd needed a big name money making opponent to lose to him as Pacquiao and Arum were off limits because they would not agree to the script - Canelo is being taken care of now because he made the sacrifice for the masters - Canelo will be continued to be taken care of for years and years because he made the sacrifice - Canelo will not lose for 5-10 years and he will never have to face GGG -
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Re: Did Pedraza throw the fight to Davis?

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montrealsuper wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
montrealsuper wrote:Lou DiBella said on Boxing Talk today that his fighter Pedraza had no strategy vs Gerv Davis and he never saw a fighter throw away all his advantages and the few instances when Pedraza did use his skills he did well in a few flashes in the fight - sounds like a thrown fight in order to build Davis into a star - no sweat off DiBella's back as he works for PBC and AH anyway so he will benefit by working with Gerv Davis in the future as Davis appears to be being built up as one of AHs key crown jewel cash cows - Floyd said that there's no chance of putting Davis vs Lomachenko because they need to make smart business decisions and be patient (in other words protect Davis from having his career destroyed by Lomachecnko) - Is it possible Pedraza was paid off to throw the fight to Davis? I say yes :OhYes:

Translation: Davis is a Hot young prospect and montrealsuper is in a panic about it because he doesn't like the "looks" of this prospect.

Wonder why, I ask very sarcastically.
Davis could be special but he's just another protected Haymon pawn - Dibella flat out said his guy Pedraza used the absolute wrong worst tactics on Davis - no world champion level fighter does that out of stupidity - sounds exactly like a thrown fight in disguise - Haymon manipulates everything: this was told to us by malignaggi :TU:

Your Haymon Obsession doesn't sound too healthy. Fighters use the wrong tactics constantly. Incidentally, wrong tactics are used every day in every walk of life.
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Re: Did Pedraza throw the fight to Davis?

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Tony1244 wrote:
montrealsuper wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:

Translation: Davis is a Hot young prospect and montrealsuper is in a panic about it because he doesn't like the "looks" of this prospect.

Wonder why, I ask very sarcastically.
Davis could be special but he's just another protected Haymon pawn - Dibella flat out said his guy Pedraza used the absolute wrong worst tactics on Davis - no world champion level fighter does that out of stupidity - sounds exactly like a thrown fight in disguise - Haymon manipulates everything: this was told to us by malignaggi :TU:

Your Haymon Obsession doesn't sound too healthy. Fighters use the wrong tactics constantly. Incidentally, wrong tactics are used every day in every walk of life.
When a world champion boxer uses a wrong strategy that belies his advantages it's reasonable to wonder about Fix - with Al Haymon involved the suspicions increase - Paul malignaggi: "Al Haymon can manipulate anything - what Al Haymon wants Al Haymon gets"
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