Well said my hole! Just because that buffoon doesn't rate him doesn't mean he's overrated! He's probably awkward to fight against but technically he's a very talented guy and up there with best we've produced recently.Autobarn wrote:Well said, he's more awkward. And his right hand often goes really wide.Horse wrote:As things stand Froch's record is much stronger than Frampton's.Stuarty30 wrote:Not technically he wasn't. Great fighter though
What's so special about Frampton's technique?
I think that he's a tad overrated.
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Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz 2 - The Rematch is on.
Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz 2 - The Rematch is on.
Vastly overrated.Stuarty30 wrote:Well said my hole! Just because that buffoon doesn't rate him doesn't mean he's overrated! He's probably awkward to fight against but technically he's a very talented guy and up there with best we've produced recently.
Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz 2 - The Rematch is on.
I agree entirely with this. I scored it by one to LSC.Emmseegee wrote:The right man got the nod in a closely contested fight. I had Santa Cruz winning by 2 rounds but would be interested to see the 3 scorecards, Id imagine there werent many rounds that any guy took on all 3 scorecards and that would show how close the fight was. Santa Cruz did however win a couple of rounds quite clearly and those I did score for Frampton could have easily went the other way.
It wasnt a barnstormer but I enjoyed it, well matched fighters. I was confident that Framptob was gonna win beforehand but think I underestimated Santa Cruz ability to stick to a gameplan.
Both guys come away with reputations intact with options for further paydays
Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz 2 - The Rematch is on.
FOR ONCE HORSE I AGREE... much better as his resume proves.Horse wrote:Carl Froch was better.Stuarty30 wrote:Best fighter we've had on these shores since Calzaghe IMO...
Frampton however has time to come again and it is probably best to compare when he is done.
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mickey1975
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Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz 2 - The Rematch is on.
Frock is obviously in front at this stage.
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handsofstone
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Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz 2 - The Rematch is on.
Any truth in the rumours that Haye's card at the end of Santa Cruz/Frampton was 120-120?
Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz 2 - The Rematch is on.
Another good fight. I was impressed with them delivering such an entertaining rematch after a tough first fight. Often after a hard first bout the rematch can be cautious, but this was another tough battle.
I think Frampton mis-judged his own power a bit and thought he could take out Cruz with one big punch, rather than picking up the points by out punching Leo.
It was close and hats off to Frampton for taking defeat so sportingly
. That sets a great example and puts boxing in light that we could do with more of.
I think Frampton mis-judged his own power a bit and thought he could take out Cruz with one big punch, rather than picking up the points by out punching Leo.
It was close and hats off to Frampton for taking defeat so sportingly
Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz 2 - The Rematch is on.
I don't think that card would be ridiculously inaccurate.handsofstone wrote:Any truth in the rumours that Haye's card at the end of Santa Cruz/Frampton was 120-120?
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handsofstone
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Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz 2 - The Rematch is on.
I was shaking my head when I seen Haye had 3 even rounds in the 1st 6 of the Frampton fight but TBH there was a few rounds in the Berchelt/Vargas fight that could've been 10-10Horse wrote:I don't think that card would be ridiculously inaccurate.handsofstone wrote:Any truth in the rumours that Haye's card at the end of Santa Cruz/Frampton was 120-120?
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I found Vargas vs Berchelt far easier to score than the Frampton vs Santa Cruz fight.handsofstone wrote:I was shaking my head when I seen Haye had 3 even rounds in the 1st 6 of the Frampton fight but TBH there was a few rounds in the Berchelt/Vargas fight that could've been 10-10
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handsofstone
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Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz 2 - The Rematch is on.
I found Santa Cruz/Frampton tough to score because both guys struggled to land clean, I found Berchelt/Vargas tough to score because both struggled to missHorse wrote:I found Vargas vs Berchelt far easier to score than the Frampton vs Santa Cruz fight.handsofstone wrote:I was shaking my head when I seen Haye had 3 even rounds in the 1st 6 of the Frampton fight but TBH there was a few rounds in the Berchelt/Vargas fight that could've been 10-10
Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz 2 - The Rematch is on.
Seems about right.handsofstone wrote:I found Santa Cruz/Frampton tough to score because both guys struggled to land clean, I found Berchelt/Vargas tough to score because both struggled to miss
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handsofstone
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Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz 2 - The Rematch is on.
Horse wrote:Seems about right.handsofstone wrote:I found Santa Cruz/Frampton tough to score because both guys struggled to land clean, I found Berchelt/Vargas tough to score because both struggled to miss
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Douglas Pink
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Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz 2 - The Rematch is on.
Frampton wins the rubber match,Team Frampton didn't look too disappointed after the result,it looked to me as if they were saving all they're energy for Belfast June 2017
Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz 2 - The Rematch is on.
I'd be pretty surprised if Santa Cruz actually agreed to have the rubber match in Belfast.Douglas Pink wrote:Frampton wins the rubber match,Team Frampton didn't look too disappointed after the result,it looked to me as if they were saving all they're energy for Belfast June 2017
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TheLeprechaun
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Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz 2 - The Rematch is on.
Theres no way he will.gilgamesh wrote:I'd be pretty surprised if Santa Cruz actually agreed to have the rubber match in Belfast.Douglas Pink wrote:Frampton wins the rubber match,Team Frampton didn't look too disappointed after the result,it looked to me as if they were saving all they're energy for Belfast June 2017
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manchester-mexican
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Re: Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz 2 - The Rematch is on.
What's that say about Cruz