You think so?tigermoth87 wrote:I know Hearn will be scrambling to arrange a PPV fight between Hammer and Joshua and sell it on the basis of Hammer beating Price and TePEDr.
They couldn't come close to a stadium fight here.Crease wrote:You think so?tigermoth87 wrote:I know Hearn will be scrambling to arrange a PPV fight between Hammer and Joshua and sell it on the basis of Hammer beating Price and TePEDr.
AJ and Eddie have already discussed Deontay Wilder in a outdoor stadium fight in the US as the next fight immediately after Klitchsko.
They are 2 of the most explosive punchers in the Heavyweight division.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:They couldn't come close to a stadium fight here.
Americans don't care about Boxing, nobody knows who Wilder and Joshua are.Crease wrote:They are 2 of the most explosive punchers in the Heavyweight division.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:They couldn't come close to a stadium fight here.
With the right type of build up and the right promotion.
You never know...
Well said,if the trainer see's that a fighter is unfit or injured before a fight its his duty to have the balls to say "no,your not fighting" a fighter will ssy yes even if he has a broken toe,ask haye :),all jokes aside the corner has got to look out for the fighters health and well beingconeye wrote:I think the blame here lies with the trainer , just has much has the fighter , Coldwell is being paid good money to train the guy ,, why did'nt he just say 3 weeks ago forget it YOUR NOT FIT ,,, If in the gym the trainer is allowing the fighter to have soft work outs , and not correcting them , he's gonna put in a soft performance , , facts are he started to gas at rnd 3 ,, disgraceful for a profesional boxer , thats what ameteures do , and in fact most of them don't
Like i said whats even more discgraceful is a profesional trainer not getting his fighter in shape ,,
HAYE early stoppage , Bellow falls to the knee knackered in rnd 7 , if that training is anything to go by
Hammer is pish! Fury slapped him around without even breaking sweat!funso banjo baby wrote:great fight.
hammer is a decent world class fighter. he deserves a big fight now
Nice post Tobytobyh5 wrote:I am slightly confused by this thread. We have knowledgeable posters who I respect with opinions I could not disagree with more, as I am pretty sure we need to write Pricey off now as a fighter, which may all become moot if he packed it in which must be possible. Regardless, I cannot see any future for him at all and think he would probably trip up in an eight rounder against anyone even a shade above a club fighter. Every opponent knows they just need to last a couple rounds and then can turn the tables on him.
Clearly it seems insane that a fighter with noted stamina and fitness issues was allowed to enter the ring in that kind of shape, especially for a 12 rounder against a decent opponent. Was never ever going to last more than a few rounds. However, that just exacerbated a problem which would be there even if he was 30lb lighter. He does not have reserves there and never will. He could get fitter but stamina which is built up over a long period and is what you rely on past actual trained fitness is not there. Neither is confidence.
Complete and utter shame as he seems one of the nicest chaps in the game, the sort you really would like to see succeed.
Because your emotionally involved with david price i think id stay away from topics with headlines like this,its hard when u have a friend who is a pro boxer and people are laying into him on forums but it is what it is mate,its a boxing forum were people can chat and give their opinion on fights,i doubt its personal to price. Everyone thinks dave is a nice guy out the ring but tbh he is fighting at a level which is too much for him. If dave coldwell earned his money and pushed price in the gym them who knows what price could do but coldwell obviously doesnt push him so the results are what u seen last night. I wish price all the best for the future and its up to him what he does next,personally first think id do is sack coldwell.Vincent stevenson wrote:Nasty thread by an anonymous poster as usual .I've got David's number here if anybody wants to phone him up and tell him personally how much of a failure he is ? He fought his heart out tonight although I have to disagree with Dave coldwells punch and move advice I would have preferred the punch and go again approach . Specially considering his size and weight advantages.
Let's have it right. How can he do "8 to 10 rounders"? He was blowing out of his 'arris after 2 rounds last night.Crease wrote:There's no denying tonight was a bad blow to Pricey'so ambitions of moving onward to bigger prizes.
That said, Pricey can come back from this. He's a big guy with a fairly hard punch, there are fights out there for him.
There's a lot of money to be made in the Heavyweight division. And at the moment, Pricey is going to need keeping his name out of the spotlight and getting his head down for the rest of the calendar year
If he accepts a position as a mid-card fighter and fighting 8-10 rounders... Maybe clocking up 5-6 quick wins over the next 8-9 months, he could get back on track quicker than people think.
I'd like to see him fight for and win an International title or an Intercontinental title - something like the WBO International title and defend it a fair few times.
A minor strap like that could be right up his Street and he could really make it his own...
DON'T GIVE UP PRICEY!!!
Coldwell has to be asked questions! I thought he was in awful shape on the scales! Hammer had that look about him!tobyh5 wrote:I am slightly confused by this thread. We have knowledgeable posters who I respect with opinions I could not disagree with more, as I am pretty sure we need to write Pricey off now as a fighter, which may all become moot if he packed it in which must be possible. Regardless, I cannot see any future for him at all and think he would probably trip up in an eight rounder against anyone even a shade above a club fighter. Every opponent knows they just need to last a couple rounds and then can turn the tables on him.
Clearly it seems insane that a fighter with noted stamina and fitness issues was allowed to enter the ring in that kind of shape, especially for a 12 rounder against a decent opponent. Was never ever going to last more than a few rounds. However, that just exacerbated a problem which would be there even if he was 30lb lighter. He does not have reserves there and never will. He could get fitter but stamina which is built up over a long period and is what you rely on past actual trained fitness is not there. Neither is confidence.
Complete and utter shame as he seems one of the nicest chaps in the game, the sort you really would like to see succeed.
Have you never slated a boxer, footballer, tennis player, politician? Did you ever call them up after to tell them what you said?Vincent stevenson wrote:Nasty thread by an anonymous poster as usual .I've got David's number here if anybody wants to phone him up and tell him personally how much of a failure he is ? He fought his heart out tonight although I have to disagree with Dave coldwells punch and move advice I would have preferred the punch and go again approach . Specially considering his size and weight advantages.
what a joke on you no it all's.Wlad, Chisora 2, Hammer barely hit him, he's still useless though...Rexob wrote:Yet another fight showing just how good Fury actually is, Fury played with Hammner and people still won't rate him?
mickey1975 wrote:Wlad, Chisora 2, Hammer barely hit him, he's still useless though...Rexob wrote:Yet another fight showing just how good Fury actually is, Fury played with Hammner and people still won't rate him?
Come on Mickey, give Fury his dues.I was absolutely terrorised on here for backing Fury to beat Price on here. Then he ducked him? Tyson will fight anybody. The TV deals ruined that one. Tyson boxed Price for nothing as a 17 year old kid who trained twice a week whilst Price was on the podium squad, full time, lottery funded.Rexob wrote:mickey1975 wrote:Wlad, Chisora 2, Hammer barely hit him, he's still useless though...Rexob wrote:Yet another fight showing just how good Fury actually is, Fury played with Hammner and people still won't rate him?
X2 mickey,he has achieved so much fury but i cant seem to rate him as a boxer,its nothing personal towards him cause i love his antics at press conferences and interviews but as a boxer i just dont rate him. I won a bet on him beating klitschko so its not like im against him.mickey1975 wrote:Wlad, Chisora 2, Hammer barely hit him, he's still useless though...Rexob wrote:Yet another fight showing just how good Fury actually is, Fury played with Hammner and people still won't rate him?
I was being sarcastic...thechump wrote:X2 mickey,he has achieved so much fury but i cant seem to rate him as a boxer,its nothing personal towards him cause i love his antics at press conferences and interviews but as a boxer i just dont rate him. I won a bet on him beating klitschko so its not like im against him.mickey1975 wrote:Wlad, Chisora 2, Hammer barely hit him, he's still useless though...Rexob wrote:Yet another fight showing just how good Fury actually is, Fury played with Hammner and people still won't rate him?
Price has looked flabby for this last few fights.straali wrote:Price looked flabby last night. Lennox Lewis seemed surprised having seen the size he'd increased to. Earlier, Andre Ward made a great point about fighters who train within their comfort zone and how it's necessary to be pushed to train outwith it. I was shocked at how Price gassed in the second Tony Thompson fight so last night wasn't so surprising but I hoped he'd have improved in some respects under Coldwell. Doesn't seem to be the case.
Haha i should of known,forgot how much you love him lol,like i say tho its nothing personalmickey1975 wrote:I was being sarcastic...thechump wrote:X2 mickey,he has achieved so much fury but i cant seem to rate him as a boxer,its nothing personal towards him cause i love his antics at press conferences and interviews but as a boxer i just dont rate him. I won a bet on him beating klitschko so its not like im against him.mickey1975 wrote: Wlad, Chisora 2, Hammer barely hit him, he's still useless though...